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[Mister Mida]

Severyx wrote...

Well, the fact that you assume I'm saying this to shoot people down is presumptive in and of itself. I said that to state my opinion (with a bit of exaggeration for flavor) that plenty of people will probably still get the game anyways, because I hope that people will realize BioWare's hard work on ME3 shouldn't go wasted because of this (albeit irritating) software scandal.

If the terms of use are not to the consumer's satisfaction they have the choice not to buy it, no matter how hard the creater of the product has worked to create it.

[ShaneP]

anzolino wrote...
Origin crashs on my PC if the firewall blocks the complete traffic at the start of Origin. I only could block this Akamai traffic, but not the complete traffic without crashing Origin.

Well yeah, for a program that relies on Internet connectivity it's kinda obvious that blocking its internet access is going to cause problems, which is why most ordinary people don't do it.

[Incognito JC]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Time will prove me right. If you so offended by my views  being different to your own then ignore me and move along aka stop replying to everything I say.

I am not at all offended by your views. I am offended by your self righteousness. Your latest post I responded to was subtle, but nevertheless also directed at me. And, a correction, time might prove you right. Either way, this is a problem for us, that are against Origin. It does not affect you negatively in anyway. Stop posting pointless comments to provoke others.

[Dark Pendora]

jethc9 wrote...

This is a deal breaker for me. I WILL NOT install origin on my system no matter what. I guess I will be skipping ME3 just like I did BF3. If I cannot buy a game on Steam I will not buy it at all. And I gotta say, the excuse about Steam and DLC is ridiculous. If I buy the game on Steam, I want to buy the DLC from Steam as well. Why would I want to have purchase the DLC elsewhere? This is all about EA forcing their garbage software on us and their Draconian business practices. I currently own about 350 games on Steam, and want all my games on Steam. I refuse to have another service installed on my machine. Especially one from such and underhanded company as EA. I make many PC game purchases (all from Steam of course) mostly for new games at the time of release or even pre-orders, and EA has lost all future business from me because of trying to force origin on us. I knoiw I am only one person, but MANY others feel the same way and will do the same. It really sucks because I love Bioware games, but if you are going to partner with such an evil company as EA, I guess I am done with you as well. It's too bad really, I was looking forward to ME3

Totally agree

Sorry bioware, unless you can release yourself from the tight grip that ea has on you, i wont be buying any of your future games from you ever again.

[Dragoonlordz]

kirvingtwo wrote...

I don't get where this idea comes from that
people will whinge about something and then buy a product anyway.  A lot
of people complained about DA2 before it was released and, surprise,  a
lot of people didn't buy DA2.(myself included)

Been on BSN long enough you know factually that everyone jumps into hysterics far too quickly on here in general.
The proof is that being here quite a long time the very same people who posted the same sort of things on other aspects which I have mentioned like liara statue, femshep voting, origin, other aspects of titles (gameplay) from DAO, DA2, ME2 and so on where at times they say "I will not buy x or y", "You have lost a customer" and the biggest one used "I have cancelled my pre-order". Those same sort of people who said those actually come back a week later and say they have bought or have kept pre-order or some in order to keep face pick another element of the game and say "this element made me fogive you for the other one so I re-ordered". 

In that regard she/he is not far wrong in what she said though adding a percentage is never good on here because people will shout prove it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 janvier 2012 - 11:11 .

[anzolino]

Shane, I'm a SP, why the program should connect it's home? It was the first test, just curiosity, and it fails

[Severyx]

Mister Mida wrote...

Severyx wrote...

Well, the fact that you assume I'm saying this to shoot people down is presumptive in and of itself. I said that to state my opinion (with a bit of exaggeration for flavor) that plenty of people will probably still get the game anyways, because I hope that people will realize BioWare's hard work on ME3 shouldn't go wasted because of this (albeit irritating) software scandal.

If the terms of use are not to the consumer's satisfaction they have the choice not to buy it, no matter how hard the creater of the product has worked to create it.

Then you probably wouldn't have bought any game ever. Terms of use have always always been at the complete disadvantage of the user, but people have learned to scroll through it all and just hit "I accept". Requiring Steam to play Steam games didn't rock the boat much at all compared to this, but it was the same exact situation: A new platform that people were unfamiliar with due to it simply being new. Valve just handled it all far better, so people didn't break out the angry mob face.

[Dragoonlordz]

Incognito JC wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Time will prove me right. If you so offended by my views  being different to your own then ignore me and move along aka stop replying to everything I say.

I am not at all offended by your views. I am offended by your self righteousness. Your latest post I responded to was subtle, but nevertheless also directed at me. And, a correction, time might prove you right. Either way, this is a problem for us, that are against Origin. It does not affect you negatively in anyway. Stop posting pointless comments to provoke others.

Ofcourse it was directed at you... It was a response to you in reply to you posting about what I said... Nothing I have posted is pointless but your trying to make it out to be that way is dubious at best. My replies have all been in response to specific things people have said "on this topic" and "in this thread" the ones not replies but statements or writing an opinion again has been "on topic" with the topic being Origin, it's effects and pros and cons.

Don't respond to me about something then claim because I responded to you about what you said, I am the one off topic.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 janvier 2012 - 11:11 .

[Tarrax Nightwind]

Ryzaki wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Forgive me, but I don't comprehend why Origin is needed for activating a physical retail version ME3 when just using BSN to register the game worked well in the past.

This.

It's not needed, as we all know. But EA own Bioware, so are forcing them to use it. The EA creep will eventually gut Bioware's ethics entirely and we'll be left with a company just as shallow and greedy.

[Ashertron]

Tarrax Nightwind wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Forgive me, but I don't comprehend why Origin is needed for activating a physical retail version ME3 when just using BSN to register the game worked well in the past.

This.

It's not needed, as we all know. But EA own Bioware, so are forcing them to use it. The EA creep will eventually gut Bioware's ethics entirely and we'll be left with a company just as shallow and greedy.

Truth.

[Teeebs]

Severyx wrote...

Metallisika wrote...

Severyx wrote...

The funny thing is that 80% of the people complaining about Origin are going to buy ME3 anyways, whether they want to let the public know or not.

Hahaha, no. They'll just pirate it.

No, that's just the other 20% 

That number will most certainly go up now.  Thanks EA....but hey they're just shooting themselves in the foot there....lol

[Dark Pendora]

Tarrax Nightwind wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Forgive me, but I don't comprehend why Origin is needed for activating a physical retail version ME3 when just using BSN to register the game worked well in the past.

This.

It's not needed, as we all know. But EA own Bioware, so are forcing them to use it. The EA creep will eventually gut Bioware's ethics entirely and we'll be left with a company just as shallow and greedy.

Or end up like westwood, forgotten and deleted.

[sackyhack]

Incognito JC wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Time will prove me right. If you so offended by my views  being different to your own then ignore me and move along aka stop replying to everything I say.

I am not at all offended by your views. I am offended by your self righteousness. Your latest post I responded to was subtle, but nevertheless also directed at me. And, a correction, time might prove you right. Either way, this is a problem for us, that are against Origin. It does not affect you negatively in anyway. Stop posting pointless comments to provoke others.

You're asking for a one-sided discussion.  Some of us aren't bothered by Origin as much as others, and we've also see how this kind of overreaction plays out once a game is released.  If everybody's going to use hyperbole and doomsday scenarios, then we should be equally allowed to voice our disagreement.  This is the internet.  If you didn't want to come across people who will counter every single one of your arguments you picked a strange medium to express yourself in.

[Alex_SM]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Honestly, I don't play on PC so I really shouldn't be commenting on this.. but something I have to say.

I wouldn't blame BioWare TOO much for this. I mean sure, it sucks and it's balls that PC gaming has maybe come to this, but BioWare only makes the game.. as for what EA does with it, well, they don't really have a choice in that matter. Sad but true.

Bioware decided to go hand in hand with EA. Everyone interested in videogames knows how EA is, and how do they treat their custmers. 

[Incognito JC]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Ofcourse it was directed at you...

Incognito JC wrote...

Stop posting pointless comments to provoke others.

See what I mean. There are others that quoted you to counter your points, but you conveniently ignored those. Stop trying to speak for the "community" which you clearly do not know that well.

sackyhack wrote...

If you didn't want to come across
people who will counter every single one of your arguments you picked a
strange medium to express yourself in.

I think you directed that at the wrong person.

Modifié par Incognito JC, 14 janvier 2012 - 11:14 .

[Dpartd]

Chris Priestly wrote...

4) Will ME3 be available on Steam?
During initial release Mass Effect 3 will be available on Origin and a number of other 3rd party digital retailers, but not on Steam at this time. Steam has adopted a set of restrictive terms of service which limit how developers interact with customers to deliver patches and other downloadable content.  We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game, and are happy to partner with any download service that does not restrict our ability to connect directly with our consumers.

This is just not acceptable.  Last I checked, I own all ME 1 and 2 DLC on bioware.com.  Steam never restricted 3rd party DLC for those games, so what would change now?

I own ME 1 and 2 on Steam and really, really, really despise the fact that I cannot and will not ever be able to own ME 3 on Steam.  Unfortunately, I will not be buying ME 3, as much as I would like to play the game.  I also never purchased BF 3 because it is still not available on Steam.

As a player and a purchaser of games, I want to have the freedom to buy games where I want to buy them.  Is this a foreign concept now to EA?

[Mister Mida]

Severyx wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

Severyx wrote...

Well, the fact that you assume I'm saying this to shoot people down is presumptive in and of itself. I said that to state my opinion (with a bit of exaggeration for flavor) that plenty of people will probably still get the game anyways, because I hope that people will realize BioWare's hard work on ME3 shouldn't go wasted because of this (albeit irritating) software scandal.

If the terms of use are not to the consumer's satisfaction they have the choice not to buy it, no matter how hard the creater of the product has worked to create it.

Then you probably wouldn't have bought any game ever. Terms of use have always always been at the complete disadvantage of the user, but people have learned to scroll through it all and just hit "I accept". Requiring Steam to play Steam games didn't rock the boat much at all compared to this, but it was the same exact situation: A new platform that people were unfamiliar with due to it simply being new. Valve just handled it all far better, so people didn't break out the angry mob face.

You seem to be talking about license agreements, which I've been told won't hold up in a court of law, while I'm referring to the fact that Origin is required to play. People can choose that this is not worth the product they want.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 14 janvier 2012 - 11:14 .

[matt-bassist]

Thanks for the info Chris. Can you tell us what Steam changed in their policies that doesn't allow you to use them any more?

[Ryzaki]

Dark Pendora wrote...

Tarrax Nightwind wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Forgive me, but I don't comprehend why Origin is needed for activating a physical retail version ME3 when just using BSN to register the game worked well in the past.

This.

It's not needed, as we all know. But EA own Bioware, so are forcing them to use it. The EA creep will eventually gut Bioware's ethics entirely and we'll be left with a company just as shallow and greedy.

Or end up like westwood, forgotten and deleted.

D:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Steafun]

I'm ok with EA. They been helpful to me actually. (However I really disappointed by BF3) But... this not about how EA treats it's own customers. it's about spying! I can't let them to do this. Sorry BioWare just cancelled my Pre-order. Looks like Harbinger killed by a blackhole while thinkin' about destroying entire galaxy

[MustOnen]

Back in 2010, when ME2 was coming out, BW talked about maximising profit with ME3, aiming it to please most of the gamers out there.
And then they slap it on Origin.

I love the fact that only studios EA owns have a "problem" with putting DLC on Steam.
Let's just hope BW does the "Bungie" and buys their freedom at some point. 

Modifié par MustOnen, 14 janvier 2012 - 11:18 .

[ShaneP]

anzolino wrote...

Shane, I'm a SP, why the program should connect it's home? It was the first test, just curiosity, and it fails

Irrelevant. The program still needs to connect to the Internet to check for updates, and so on. The program does not fail, you fail for taking the route of paranoia over reason, and blaming an application for crashing when you prevent a core part of it's functionality from working is just laughable really. Let the application do it's damn job. Or uninstall it, refund your game, and buy yourself a tin foil hat instead. Both awesome choices!

[Dragoonlordz]

Teeebs wrote...

Severyx wrote...

Metallisika wrote...

Severyx wrote...

The funny thing is that 80% of the people complaining about Origin are going to buy ME3 anyways, whether they want to let the public know or not.

Hahaha, no. They'll just pirate it.

No, that's just the other 20% 

That number will most certainly go up now.  Thanks EA....but hey they're just shooting themselves in the foot there....lol

And they shooting you in the foot to as a customer. I do wonder why noone seems to realise when people on here switch to piracy the end result which has happened time and time again is everyone else gets more DRM.

It doesn't matter how offended people are, if offended do not buy the game and do not pirate it, boycott it if you will but do not then go and steal a copy which then makes the rest of us forced to go through more DRM measures.

We have DRM because piracy increased vastly with dawn of internet and people went and stole more copies claiming it was because of DRM which created more DRM and now we have "idiots" no other term can be used to describe them (because the customers will suffer far more from their actions than the companies ever will) who go on to say dumb things like they going to steal a copy instead.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 janvier 2012 - 11:17 .

[Alex_SM]

strive wrote...

With ME3 not being on Steam it loses millions of customers I bet.

I wouldn't say millions. Probably like 75,000-100,000 customers still a decent chunk of change though. However if they have millions buying their DLC direct from them it probably curbs the loss.

I thought they updated the EULA in August that prevented them from giving our your information to anyone but EA.

Steam are around 50 millions of users, and around 8 millions of unique users sign every day. 

[pudding27]

Seriously Bioware this really dissapoints me. Using your position to force me to get an origin account?
Is this really the way to treat loyal fans that has bought and loved pretty much every one of your games, especially the Mass Effect series?
I have played both games on Steam and have my entire catalogue of games on Steam. I dont buy games physically anymore and do not want to have a million different launcher programs.
I will probably play ME3 anyway but there is no way im buying it. I will wait until friends have played through it on the PS3 and borrow it, but you are not getting any more money from me!