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[XSpectreGreyX]

Well, Thane is the brooding assassin in Black with the dark past, so I think he appeals to some girl gamers. But I honestly don't know anyone who finds them physically attractive. A lot of girls like Garrus, but that's usually based on his humour and awkwardness.

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

XSpectreGreyX wrote...

Well, Thane is the brooding assassin in Black with the dark past, so I think he appeals to some girl gamers. But I honestly don't know anyone who finds them physically attractive.

I do. Physically.......yes. 

[Lucky Thirteen]

XSpectreGreyX wrote...

Well, Thane is the brooding
assassin in Black with the dark past, so I think he appeals to some girl
gamers. But I honestly don't know anyone who finds them physically
attractive.

Dude, why do I have to repeat myself?

Tight outfit
Big biceps
Broad shoulders
Olympic thighs
Man clevage (For health reasons of course, just like Samara)

[Ottemis]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

XSpectreGreyX wrote...

Well, Thane is the brooding
assassin in Black with the dark past, so I think he appeals to some girl
gamers. But I honestly don't know anyone who finds them physically
attractive.

Dude, why do I have to repeat myself?

Tight outfit
Big biceps
Broad shoulders
Olympic thighs
Man clevage (For health reasons of course, just like Samara)

Quoted for truth, again =P

[Anthropophobic]

 I don't think it's really wrong to be attracted to the non-human characters in the ME universe; they're essentially human, in terms of personality. They're made to be likable and easy for humans to relate to, or the story of ME would be pretty boring.

Garrus doesn't necessarily look super hot, but there's something really charming about his personality, and his voice is like magic, srsly. I can't do an ME2 run without romancing Garrus, ever. It's weird; I don't think I've ever had a crush on a fictional character before ME1.

Modifié par Anthropophobic, 15 janvier 2012 - 07:20 .

[BentOrgy]

Anthropophobic wrote...

 I don't think it's really wrong to be attracted to the non-human characters in the ME universe; they're essentially human, in terms of personality. They're made to be likable and easy for humans to relate to, or the story of ME would be pretty boring.

Garrus doesn't necessarily look super hot, but there's something really charming about his personality, and his voice is like magic, srsly. I can't do an ME2 run without romancing Garrus, ever. It's weird; I don't think I've ever had a crush on a fictional character before ME1.

See haters? Its easy.

[Armass81]

BentOrgy wrote...

Zkyire wrote...

Because they're not your species?

If you don't find dogs or cats (different species from this world) physically attractive, why would you find other species from other worlds attractive?

I'm a Garrus fan, but if any human can look at, what is essentially a bipedal dinosaur and be physically aroused.. then there is something wrong with your wiring.

You're supposed to be physically attracted to your own species.

The only reason the Asari attraction can be defended is that they're basically 90% human in their appearance.

Krogan? Turians? Not at all.

Dogs and cats are vastly different from the aliens in Mass Effect; do in no small part to the fact that they're not sapient; they don't have human intelligence, culture, society, nor do they remotely posses the humanoid structure that many of the afformentioned species do. So you're comparison, with respect, doesn't compare.

And while you might not find it stimulating, there are obviously people here who do; so saying something is "wrong," with our wiring is not only rude, but presumptious. Like your theory that humans are "Supposed," to attracted to only our own species. Who says? People can be gay, despite the fact that we evolved to reproduce with our opposite genders. Does that make them wrong? And before you say that's different, (Because they're still human.) its not; its people being stimulated by something they didn't evolve to be stimulated by.

So again, there's nothing "Wrong," with being a xenophile. If its not for you, fine, but don't try telling us that its bizarre, when its no different than liking red over blue.

I think claiming that xenosexuality or xenophilia is "something wrong in our heads" or bestiality, its basically the same as claiming homosexuality is a sin or a mental disorder...

Id treat xenosexuality as homosexuality, or bisexuality, or heterosexuality. It's about preferences, not a sickness of mind. Love and companionship is great wherever you find it. Should we ever contact aliens and form coexisting societies with them you can bet xenosexuality will come out in society no matter how small minority it will be, first people treat it like homosexuality in the 40's and 50's and then it becomes accepted or ignored with time. I know it might be hard to accept or understand now, but future and changing of world views brings changes into society. That's how it always is. At least that's how I view things...

Modifié par Armass81, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:10 .

[Ieldra]

Xilizhra wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
They're aliens. If you found them to be seriously attractive, I've have doubts about your mental health.

The problem here is the double standard. It's not that there aren't any attractive male aliens, it's that there are attractive female aliens (for any intents and purposes, the asari are that). No alien should be attractive to humans as a rule. There shouldn't be any blue-, green- or whatever-skinned space babes.

Asari are attractive to all Council races. It's a specific thing about them, not just a random human-specific trait thrown in.

You didn't get my point. Plausibly, there should be no interspecies attraction at all, except for a small minority of people with a certain fetish. The asari omnisexuality is ridiculous as a concept.

Note that this isn't some "condemnation" of certain preferences as people appear to suggest. On an individual basis, there's nothing wrong with being a xenophile. But from a population-oriented perspective, such people would be a small minority, because your regular alien would not have traits usually attractive to a human. Quarian and Asari morphology is so human-like that they attract people who wouldn't normally be xenophiles. And it shouldn't be.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 janvier 2012 - 08:51 .

[Anthropophobic]

If we ever find aliens in real life, I doubt they'll be enough like us that we'll form such a diverse galactic civilization like the one in Mass Effect anyway (depressing but true). The premise of the series itself is implausible, but it would be boring otherwise.

[Armass81]

Anthropophobic wrote...

If we ever find aliens in real life, I doubt they'll be enough like us that we'll form such a diverse galactic civilization like the one in Mass Effect anyway (depressing but true). The premise of the series itself is implausible, but it would be boring otherwise.

Nobody can answer that but the future. There could be a pan-species galaxy or universe spanning federation waiting for us out there or there could just be dusts of nebulae and gas, and primitive bacterial life and ruins of past civilizations ruled by machines.

We dont know whats really out there. Not yet. Considering scientists are already finding planets that are as strange or more so than those in most scifi stories, universe might surprise all of us with it's diversity.

Hopefully we dont find something horrible like the reapers

Modifié par Armass81, 15 janvier 2012 - 10:02 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Unless there are actually precursors directing evolution a la A Space Odyssey, the likelihood of finding a species that has developed in a manner so closely analogous to humans that they share the same sex triggers is so abyssmally miniscule that it's negligible. Triggers have a very small margin for error. Apes are, for all intents and purposes, hairy humans, but the vast majority of people would not want to screw a silverback.

[Abraham_uk]

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

My femshep loves Grunt. What a stud muffin. 

Shepard goes on top or otherwise Shepard gets crushed especially if Grunt has difficulty removing his armour:P

[Ieldra]

Anthropophobic wrote...
If we ever find aliens in real life, I doubt they'll be enough like us that we'll form such a diverse galactic civilization like the one in Mass Effect anyway (depressing but true). The premise of the series itself is implausible, but it would be boring otherwise.

Being psychologically similar to humans is very much less implausible. Think of this: to create a technological civilization, large-scale co-operation is required. You also need a reasonably high level of intelligence on an individual basis (or a hive mind). Which means that a starfaring species will most likely be either a hyper-social species like humanity or some kind of hive mind like the Rachni. If the former, with that comes a necessity to balance the need of the community with the need of the individual. There comes morality, which would plausibly be based on similar concepts as humans' morality. 

Being *physically* similar to humans, that's quite a different thing. It could be that there is an evolutionary preference for a humanoid shape (basically four-limbed, walking upright, sensory organs far up on the body and close to the brain, stuff goes in at the upper end and comes out at the lower so that gravity helps), but more than that is astronomically implausible.

Which means that friendship and understanding between species might not be that implausible, but sexual attraction surely would be.

[Armass81]

I think humanoid form(head, body, 2 hands, 2 legs) would be a minority among the total number of intelligence species but it would still exist out there in vast numbers, I highly doubt every other intelligent being in the universe besides us is some kind of weird tentacle/insectoid/whatever "monster". You might find alot things that are weird but among those there would also be something that is more familiar in comparison.

Modifié par Armass81, 15 janvier 2012 - 09:57 .

[JosephDucreux]

[fatalfeline]

I think Bioware was doing pretty well with the "sexy male alien for da ladeez" with Thane until...those close-ups of his eyes during his flashbacks.... O_O; Creeeepy.

[TobyHasEyes]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Unless there are actually precursors directing evolution a la A Space Odyssey, the likelihood of finding a species that has developed in a manner so closely analogous to humans that they share the same sex triggers is so abyssmally miniscule that it's negligible. Triggers have a very small margin for error. Apes are, for all intents and purposes, hairy humans, but the vast majority of people would not want to screw a silverback.

 Although I agree in general.. sexuality is so sophisticated in humans that it would be hard to replicate given an entirely different planet and development, niche or no niche.. have to counter that some apes do find humans attractive, so it is not two ways (orang utans have been known to sexually assault women)

 In any case, they judge (rightly or wrongly) that the men playing the game will be more bothered by the appearance of the LI, whereas (rightly or wrongly) they trade in on the idea that women need an emotional connection rather than a physical one and therefore don't make the same efforts to make the male aliens fit the male human ideal

 Not agreeing it is right or wrong, but that will be why

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Xilizhra wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
They're aliens. If you found them to be seriously attractive, I've have doubts about your mental health.

The problem here is the double standard. It's not that there aren't any attractive male aliens, it's that there are attractive female aliens (for any intents and purposes, the asari are that). No alien should be attractive to humans as a rule. There shouldn't be any blue-, green- or whatever-skinned space babes.

Asari are attractive to all Council races. It's a specific thing about them, not just a random human-specific trait thrown in.

Lol, no not to the in-game characters, to you and me(well not me). Mordin also claims to be highly attractive to all species, yet the only option you get is "AHA comic reflief!"

And since everyone's mentioned it, I agree Thane sorta fulfills that role of "far-too-human alien sex object". If only his highly annoying voice didn't let him down. :innocent:

Modifié par fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb, 15 janvier 2012 - 10:06 .

[AgitatedLemon]

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
They're aliens. If you found them to be seriously attractive, I've have doubts about your mental health.

The problem here is the double standard. It's not that there aren't any attractive male aliens, it's that there are attractive female aliens (for any intents and purposes, the asari are that). No alien should be attractive to humans as a rule. There shouldn't be any blue-, green- or whatever-skinned space babes.

Asari are attractive to all Council races. It's a specific thing about them, not just a random human-specific trait thrown in.

Lol, no not to the in-game characters, to you and me(well not me). Mordin also claims to be highly attractive to all species, yet the only option you get is "AHA comic reflief!"

Mordin just says "Skin tone considered suggestive" or something or other, towards Krogan, not all races.

[Abraham_uk]

fatalfeline wrote...

I think Bioware was doing pretty well with the "sexy male alien for da ladeez" with Thane until...those close-ups of his eyes during his flashbacks.... O_O; Creeeepy.

Watch this

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
They're aliens. If you found them to be seriously attractive, I've have doubts about your mental health.

The problem here is the double standard. It's not that there aren't any attractive male aliens, it's that there are attractive female aliens (for any intents and purposes, the asari are that). No alien should be attractive to humans as a rule. There shouldn't be any blue-, green- or whatever-skinned space babes.

Asari are attractive to all Council races. It's a specific thing about them, not just a random human-specific trait thrown in.

Lol, no not to the in-game characters, to you and me(well not me). Mordin also claims to be highly attractive to all species, yet the only option you get is "AHA comic reflief!"

Mordin just says "Skin tone considered suggestive" or something or other, towards Krogan, not all races.

EHHH-UHH! Krogans like their flexiblity.

It doesn't feel that great out-geeking someone

[Hillbillyshep]

JosephDucreux wrote...

Aaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not this guy!
He´s in every episode of that crappy "Aliens? Are they real?" -show, or whatever it´s called.
Alot better bull**it show i know, is "Weird, Or What? With William Shatner".

[john-in-france]

How much more human looking do you want, without being, well....human? Maybe a Vulcan...ohhh, wrong series!

[Friera]

I´d say if Thane where a dog. You know, walking around saying nothing. I wouldn´t find him attractive. I don´t find my cat attractive (but she is awefully cute though!) So I don´t believe there is something "wrong" with me.
But its all the human factors into account which makes an alien sexy.

That´s what I belive.