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[Daeel]

AgitatedLemon wrote...


I used to have some semblance of respect for you.

Why do you keep throwing around this line? do you honestly think he's at home just unable to look at himself because some random chick on BSN doesn't "respect" him. It's almost laughable if you weren't being so freaking silly.

[AgitatedLemon]

Daeel wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...


I used to have some semblance of respect for you.

Why do you keep throwing around this line? do you honestly think he's at home just unable to look at himself because some random chick on BSN doesn't "respect" him. It's almost laughable if you weren't being so freaking silly.

"Keep throwing around this line"

I've said it like twice. Ever.

[Daeel]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Daeel wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...


I used to have some semblance of respect for you.

Why do you keep throwing around this line? do you honestly think he's at home just unable to look at himself because some random chick on BSN doesn't "respect" him. It's almost laughable if you weren't being so freaking silly.

"Keep throwing around this line"

I've said it like twice. Ever.

Twice is three times too much.

Modifié par Daeel, 18 janvier 2012 - 04:04 .

[Calibrationmaster]

Daeel wrote...

Calibrationmaster wrote...

i am not celebrating anything , i think you celebrate your pc versions way too much just because you get a  little better graphics and 20 fps more than me .

do you have more fun than me? NO

You bet your ass I do. Not only does my game load faster, play faster, look better, control better. I get a bunch load of free mods at my finger tips.

You know how everyone complained about the me1 elevators. I didn't! you know why? my elevator rides were like silk. There was hardly enough tim for the conversation.

Do you know why no one who plays PC complains about aim assist? because we don't have it. We already have superior aiming mechanics with mouse and keyboard and a crapload of hotkeys to boot.

Games are simply superior on PC. Spend your time arguing with the other consoles, its a losing battle elsewise.

lol i play games on pc and ps3 and i have fun in both , some games are superior on pc yes like fps and rts , the rest? no
i think you are the kind of guy that only thinks about graphics, i still play ps1 games that give me more fun than those super pc games

btw dont need to quote me more cause i am done with this thread , elitist people , gamer or not makes me vomite

carry on with th bs

[BounceDK]

"Bah PC elitists" ... You keep on denying the truth while we enjoy our superior gaming rigs.
Tata.

[Daeel]

BounceDK wrote...

"Bah PC elitists" ... You keep on denying the truth while we enjoy our superior gaming rigs.
Tata.

wha--t? There's no way you honestly think that? PC has always been the powerhouse gamer, where as console is for the casual conservative gamer.

I don't know how else to explain this guys.

Games are faster
look better
control better (most of them, driving games tend to suck)
have mods
and are cheaper.

Building a good PC is an investment any smart gamer will come to realise, there is no elitism here, just facts. I do not hate console gamers. I simply think you guys should keep the conversation console versus console, you only lose when you compare a console to a PC. That's like putting up a UFC fighter against some average joe with a pot belly. Outmatched clearly.

[Dragoonlordz]

-double post-

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 18 janvier 2012 - 05:54 .

[Dragoonlordz]

I play PC the most, have done for over 20-25 years. Of course add another decade on top if talking Amstrad, Atari, Commodore and Spectrum as (personal computers). I find PC is far better for strategy titles (mouse and keyboard are the reason why and quantity of titles in that far more of that genre are on PC which do not cross over to console), FPS (again the controls aspect but this time also the graphics and quantity of servers available) and lastly RPG (not for controls this time but instead graphics and mods).

However as someone who has owned most consoles made in last 30+ years including latest generation, some things is always better on console as far as I am concerned and that is action titles especially (only excluding RPGs for above stated reasons) but all other non listed above genres I find console to be far better and more fun. MMOs I have not included because there is so few on console it cannot really compare much.

[tetrisblock4x1]

Daeel wrote...

control better (most of them, driving games tend to suck)

what is this? You know you can get lots of drivng games on PC, including rFactor, that one game that race car enthusiasts have a hard on for? You don't like them on PC, then buy a steering wheel.

[Daeel]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Daeel wrote...

control better (most of them, driving games tend to suck)

what is this? You know you can get lots of drivng games on PC, including rFactor, that one game that race car enthusiasts have a hard on for? You don't like them on PC, then buy a steering wheel.

I don't really care about driver games. I just know the WASD method is awful for making those curve turns.

[hawkens982]

Consoles for me, since I got ME2 on both my xbox and ps3 and ME1 on the pc.

The only upside i see with a pc version is more hotkeys. Sometimes i wish i can hotkey the xbox controller keypad accessory.

[Il Divo]

Gatt9 wrote...

2. No, you wouldn't rate a game 9 or higher just because it had a good story, bad gameplay makes for bad games. The best story in the world won't save it, because you actually have to play it, and at the end of the day, gameplay is king.

Depends on the game. I despise DnD 2.0. I wouldn't give Baldur's Gate 1 a 3/10. However, I'd give Planescape: Torment somewhere from a 9.0-9.75. Why? The story was engrossing, the characters were fantastic, and delivered an exceptionally fun experience. I guess you could argue the distinction and say that dialogue can be considered gameplay (which I firmly believe), but the primary point is that the ultimate measurement is how much you enjoyed the final product. I wouldn't say that gameplay/combat isn't important, but I would say a comparison of how bad the combat is versus how good the other elements are is important in determining a final score.  

Modifié par Il Divo, 18 janvier 2012 - 07:11 .

[tetrisblock4x1]

Peripherals are a part of PC and console. If you want to debate properly then you must consider everything, not just keyboard and mouse vs gamepad, otherwise it is a waste of time.

[tetrisblock4x1]

Il Divo wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

2. No, you wouldn't rate a game 9 or higher just because it had a good story, bad gameplay makes for bad games. The best story in the world won't save it, because you actually have to play it, and at the end of the day, gameplay is king.

Depends on the game. I despise DnD 2.0. I wouldn't give Baldur's Gate 1 a 3/10. However, I'd give Planescape: Torment somewhere from a 9.0-9.75. Why? The story was engrossing, the characters were fantastic, and delivered an exceptionally fun experience. I guess you could argue the distinction and say that dialogue can be considered gameplay (which I firmly believe), but the primary point is that the ultimate measurement is how much you enjoyed the final product. I wouldn't say that gameplay/combat isn't important, but I would say a comparison of how bad the combat is versus how good the other elements are is important in determining a final score.  

Ridiculous. A game has to be as bad as Superman 64 to be 3/10. Maybe even worse. I know that BGII was one of the few RPGs with an in depth magic system which didn't completely break down the challenge of the game. How do you think other RPGs compare like that DAO BSN loves so much? I could go through it right now, and I could kill everything with my support specialist spirit healer and alistair. He just has to wear the damage reduction gear, taunt, threaten and he'd never die with my healing and protection magic. That could be literally all I do, and it would be enough to win. It would be enough for even Flemeth. Hell, I know people who say they've solod DAO as a rogue. And this was nightmare difficulty that I played.

BG 1 might not have been as good in gameplay as BGII, and certainly not even close in story, but at least I had to change your tactics from time to time, I had to pause a lot and the winning tactics weren't so obvious. And that's compared to DAO, the game that will no doubt be remembered as a highlight in RPGs for its console generation.

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 18 janvier 2012 - 07:47 .

[Jim_uk]

It'll be the PS3 for me, maybe the 360. I'm actually a PC gamer but I won't have Origin anywhere my system.

[PSUHammer]

Um, consoles ARE PCs, if you want to get technical.....who gives a flying fook what system you game on. Use the one that you enjoy the most.

I think it is funny that people are emotionally invested to the point of arguing about this.

[menagrabinna]

I have a question--Are we getting a digital copy if you pre-order Mass Effect 3 like we did for Mass Effect 2....and if so can you play multiplayer on the computer and switch back to the console for your campaign? Just asking cuz I live in a rural setting and the internet is BAD for online platform multiplayers but usually computer games work fine.

[Il Divo]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Ridiculous. A game has to be as bad as Superman 64 to be 3/10. Maybe even worse. I know that BGII was one of the few RPGs with an in depth magic system which didn't completely break down the challenge of the game. How do you think other RPGs compare like that DAO BSN loves so much? I could go through it right now, and I could kill everything with my support specialist spirit healer and alistair. He just has to wear the damage reduction gear, taunt, threaten and he'd never die with my healing and protection magic. That could be literally all I do, and it would be enough to win. It would be enough for even Flemeth. Hell, I know people who say they've solod DAO as a rogue. And this was nightmare difficulty that I played.


BG 1 might not have been as good in gameplay as BGII, and certainly not even close in story, but at least I had to change your tactics from time to time, I had to pause a lot and the winning tactics weren't so obvious. And that's compared to DAO, the game that will no doubt be remembered as a highlight in RPGs for its console generation.

That was actually meant to be an exaggeration, but the meaning remains the same. Although this goes back to a different point; I personally consider numbers to be much less useful than the content of a review. So if I'm going to be as accurate as possible, I probably should say that I would avoid assigning a score altogether, even if my review would be condemning.

Back on topic: I can get around bad gameplay, or (more accurately) gameplay I don't enjoy. I find DnD, especially 2.0, rather bland and actively dislike Vancian Casting in most incarnations. I can get around this if I'm dealing with an epic narrative, memorable characters, etc. Alot of RPGs tend to be interactive, so that has its own appeal.

With something like Planescape, the experience was incredibly memorable despite the combat system. BG1 had no such hook for me. Characters are practically non-existent, the plot was essentially a scavenger hunt, etc. After playing virtually every other Bioware series, BG1 has not aged well in terms of the narrative style I have come to expect.

Modifié par Il Divo, 18 janvier 2012 - 01:44 .

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Epic Legion wrote...

PC:
+ Faster loading times
+ Better framerate
+ Better resolution and graphics
+ Mods
+ Mouse & Keyboard
+ Cheaper

PS3/Xbox 360:
+ No Origin

Conclusion: Console version is better

This made me lol

[DiegoProgMetal]

If you can spare the money, buy one version for PC and another for x360. Why? I don't know... I would do that. I always dreamed of having all consoles and a big powerful pc. I just got the money to buy my pc. Maybe later, when next gen consoles come out, I'll buy them.

[Mecha Tengu]

lul filthy console gamers

[Tokion]

I was pumped when they said the PS3-ME2 was made with ME3 engine. I tried it and was extremely disappointed in the quality of the console version in comparison to the PC version. In short, the graphics were pixelated and slow on the PS3.

Modifié par Tokion, 18 janvier 2012 - 06:00 .

[Daeel]

I don't know why this debate lasted 6 pages. I don't think there's a valid argument from the console side.