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[TheButterflyEffect]

 Yeah, don't anyone DARE start that horsecrap argument about women having less testosterone balls muscle mass blah blah effing blah. That's got absolutely nothing to do with anything you sexist dimwits with your stupid Civil War era mentalities.

Seriously why the hell is Bioware so goddamn male chauvanist? Why do they put more effort into males than females? Seriously, they cut shmexylicious female dwarves out of DA2 entirely, and broke their word completely about female qunari. And we have yet to see a single female alien in the goddamn ME universe.

Asari don't count because they're a mono gender race. Neither do Quarians because they're always in those stupid space suits and we don't even know what either sex looks like.

Why do female turians, salarians, drell, yahg, vorcha, krogan, batarians, volus, elcor and hanar seem to be non existent? Through dialogue we know that these races DO have females. So why the hell do we never see any?

And the hand-wavey excuse "oh they don't usually leave their home planets" is absolute crock, these are ALEINS we're talking about, they're goddamn cultural attitudes and mentalities are supposed to be ALIEN, meaning absolutely nothing like ours, being the pathetic sexualist piece of crap ugly ass apes we are. And in a species that's become an thoroughly modern interstellar civilization, the idea of not ONE single female EVER going out and travelling the galaxy and talking to people of other species is absurd. A very very flimsy excuse. And you're stupid.

Modifié par TheButterflyEffect, 14 janvier 2012 - 09:24 .

[Armass81]

This needs to be talked about more, tough with less hostility.

[iRAWRasaurusREX]

Personally I agree with you and would like to see the females of other aliens. And children as well, but I dont think thats gonna happen

[mkk316]

I think its more a resources of game development kind of thing. All those females would have to be modelled and textured and rigged and animated and coded, and you'd want variety too right, that's another load of work. And its not just man hours, its space on the disc and the amount of memory available. You could say the same for kids too, why arent there that many kids in ME. I'd love to see more lady aliens too though, but i get why there arent that many.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

It is scientific fact that alien women didn't enter space, they spent all their time in the kitchen.


ALL THE INTERNETS I JUST WON THEM.
(I too would like to see more female versions, although sex may not be a feature shared by all species, though most in ME universe have them)

[Kasen]

Agreed, the hostility is uncalled for...

As far as Hanar and Elcor go, maybe even Vorcha and other species, I'm not entirely sure that a Human would be able to tell the difference between males and females anyway... if I'm not mistaken, Hanar don't even have an actual spoken language, their luminescents (sp?) are translated by universal translators, so you couldn't really use their voice pitch as a way to tell even.

Edited to add: Doesn't mean I'm against the idea, just saying if they're properly "alien" enough, there's no promise you could tell. People on this planet occasionally have difficulty telling the difference among their own species...

Modifié par Kasen13, 14 janvier 2012 - 09:35 .

[AlexXIV]

Huh, I beg to differ. Asari do count. It's a matter of ressources. It would simply cost more money and time to make two gender to each species. You basically have twice the number of different NPCs/animations.

[nitefyre410]

Okay lets start this conversation over, I see that you may have something interesting say but I need you calm down, take a breath and present your complaint in a calm and rational manner.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 14 janvier 2012 - 09:39 .

[Luigitornado]

I don't even frequent this board that regularly, and I know this has been discussed to death.

[Rahavan]

This is gona get locked. Anyway I don't care I'm a woman and I am not affend at imaginary chars showing, or not showing, up. Some people take little things too far.

[kaymarierose]

I hope you don't talk to people that way in real life.

[What a Succulent Ass]

I am not an "ugly ass ape." I'm sexy, a little cocky, and everybody wants my body.

[AlexXIV]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I am not an "ugly ass ape." I'm sexy, a little cocky, and everybody wants my body.

And I am the Emperor of China.

[Hatikvah07]

Well, I don't really think the argument "Well they'd have to make twice the models!" is really a fair one. It's pretty obvious that all the different alien npc's are just recolors of each other, so all you'd have to do is make a baseline male and baseline female models and then just do a few palette swaps. As for VA's, hell, it's just as obvious that Mark Meer voices all the Volus in addition to Shepard, and I'm sure they could rustle up some Jennifer Hale or one of the other VA's to record a couple lines of dialogue, then run it through some distortion so it's not as obvious.

[CuHnadian]

I agree that there should be female aliens to, but I don't think insulting everybody is going to make it more likely to happen.

[mjh417]

Hey we still have ME3 to look forward to. We know we'll meet at least one female Krogan in it, but I'm hoping we see plenty of Salarian females on Sur'Kesh and even far more female Turians on Palaven.

[What a Succulent Ass]

AlexXIV wrote...

And I am the Emperor of China.

Don't be foolish.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 14 janvier 2012 - 10:07 .

[BentOrgy]

Hatikvah07 wrote...

Well, I don't really think the argument "Well they'd have to make twice the models!" is really a fair one. It's pretty obvious that all the different alien npc's are just recolors of each other, so all you'd have to do is make a baseline male and baseline female models and then just do a few palette swaps.

Exactly, its not a fair point at all really. Which is why when Chris Priestly jumped down everyone's throats about the "Fact," that they would have to "Cut out dialogue and sidequests," to make "space," for moving hair, I was very quick to point out that its a bunch garbage.

Yes, Mass Effect 3 is a large game, but most of that data are proabably checkflags for previous choices and dialogue in the game itself. Combine that with the fact that I've seen nothing in any ME game (Model wise.) that was so intricate or detailed that adding some anchor points to some hair meshes would break the game at all. This coming from a senior at AI, majoring in Game Art and Design.

Yes, calculating real hair physics takes a lot of processing power, because even when the hair isn't visible, the game's still calculating it. But adding some anchor points, and then applying simple gravity to the object isn't that resource heavy. Lionhead's done it in Fable, as have other studios. Its not "realistic," but its a lot better than having someone like Miranda, whose heair magically never moves.

In short, yes, we need (And can have,) female aliens in ME3.

[Volus Warlord]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I am not an "ugly ass ape." I'm sexy, a little cocky, and everybody wants my body.

I'm pretty sure you're lying.

[Volus Warlord]

BentOrgy wrote...

Hatikvah07 wrote...

Well, I don't really think the argument "Well they'd have to make twice the models!" is really a fair one. It's pretty obvious that all the different alien npc's are just recolors of each other, so all you'd have to do is make a baseline male and baseline female models and then just do a few palette swaps.

Exactly, its not a fair point at all really. Which is why when Chris Priestly jumped down everyone's throats about the "Fact," that they would have to "Cut out dialogue and sidequests," to make "space," for moving hair, I was very quick to point out that its a bunch garbage.

Yes, Mass Effect 3 is a large game, but most of that data are proabably checkflags for previous choices and dialogue in the game itself. Combine that with the fact that I've seen nothing in any ME game (Model wise.) that was so intricate or detailed that adding some anchor points to some hair meshes would break the game at all. This coming from a senior at AI, majoring in Game Art and Design.

Yes, calculating real hair physics takes a lot of processing power, because even when the hair isn't visible, the game's still calculating it. But adding some anchor points, and then applying simple gravity to the object isn't that resource heavy. Lionhead's done it in Fable, as have other studios. Its not "realistic," but its a lot better than having someone like Miranda, whose heair magically never moves.

In short, yes, we need (And can have,) female aliens in ME3.

It's a fringe agenda and Bioware does not heed to fringe agendas!

One such such example is SS romance... oh nvm.

[Wulfram]

It's not like they couldn't take a male Turian model, give it a few minor tweaks and a female voice actor and say it's a female.

And if Femshep doesn't get her own animations, I'm not sure why alien females would

[Helena Tylena]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I am not an "ugly ass ape." I'm sexy, a little cocky, and everybody wants my body.

Especially your muscle tissue.
Damn, I'm hungry...


Canibal jokes aside, like many I agree with the OP's message, if not the way he delivered it. I, too, would love to see the female versions of the various races. There's apparently going to be a female Krogan in one of the missions, but she's wearing a full-face helmet and seems to have the exact same model as the male ones, which I felt was a bit of a cop-out.
She is, however, voiced by a female voice actress, so I don't get where the 'but we're going to have to hire more actresses, and cut down on other stuff' argument comes from.

[StephanieBengal]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

 Yeah, don't anyone DARE start that horsecrap argument about women having less testosterone balls muscle mass blah blah effing blah. That's got absolutely nothing to do with anything you sexist dimwits with your stupid Civil War era mentalities.

Seriously why the hell is Bioware so goddamn male chauvanist? Why do they put more effort into males than females? Seriously, they cut shmexylicious female dwarves out of DA2 entirely, and broke their word completely about female qunari. And we have yet to see a single female alien in the goddamn ME universe.

Asari don't count because they're a mono gender race. Neither do Quarians because they're always in those stupid space suits and we don't even know what either sex looks like.

Why do female turians, salarians, drell, yahg, vorcha, krogan, batarians, volus, elcor and hanar seem to be non existent? Through dialogue we know that these races DO have females. So why the hell do we never see any?

And the hand-wavey excuse "oh they don't usually leave their home planets" is absolute crock, these are ALEINS we're talking about, they're goddamn cultural attitudes and mentalities are supposed to be ALIEN, meaning absolutely nothing like ours, being the pathetic sexualist piece of crap ugly ass apes we are. And in a species that's become an thoroughly modern interstellar civilization, the idea of not ONE single female EVER going out and travelling the galaxy and talking to people of other species is absurd. A very very flimsy excuse. And you're stupid.

You can always start your own video game company and make this a reality if it really matters to you. I'm not being a smart ass, if you feel so passionate about this. Make it happen, what's stopping you? 

Now then as a woman I'll be honest, while it would be cool if we saw other female aliens it would be slightly cool. But it's not a huge deal to me, besides I can already see people complaining about the possible representation of them. I mean, anytime it has to do with a female in video gamer, naturally how she looks usually overtakes the actually importance of the character themself, which as a woman is annoying, but that's life. 

To each their own. 

Modifié par StephanieBengal, 14 janvier 2012 - 11:01 .

[Abraham_uk]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

 Yeah, don't anyone DARE start that horsecrap argument about women having less testosterone balls muscle mass blah blah effing blah. That's got absolutely nothing to do with anything you sexist dimwits with your stupid Civil War era mentalities.

Seriously why the hell is Bioware so goddamn male chauvanist? Why do they put more effort into males than females? Seriously, they cut shmexylicious female dwarves out of DA2 entirely, and broke their word completely about female qunari. And we have yet to see a single female alien in the goddamn ME universe.

Asari don't count because they're a mono gender race. Neither do Quarians because they're always in those stupid space suits and we don't even know what either sex looks like.

Why do female turians, salarians, drell, yahg, vorcha, krogan, batarians, volus, elcor and hanar seem to be non existent? Through dialogue we know that these races DO have females. So why the hell do we never see any?

And the hand-wavey excuse "oh they don't usually leave their home planets" is absolute crock, these are ALEINS we're talking about, they're goddamn cultural attitudes and mentalities are supposed to be ALIEN, meaning absolutely nothing like ours, being the pathetic sexualist piece of crap ugly ass apes we are. And in a species that's become an thoroughly modern interstellar civilization, the idea of not ONE single female EVER going out and travelling the galaxy and talking to people of other species is absurd. A very very flimsy excuse. And you're stupid.

While you're at it, why are there very few children? Ever wondered what a turian baby looks like?

Ever wandered what a salarian child looks like?

I guess they just don't exist. Perhaps turians are mono-raced males who don't have children. Personally I'm somewhat dismissive of such claims.