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Débuté par camirish1 , janv. 15 2012 01:39

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 02:42

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boo disc swapping, we should not have to bear the burden of outdated technology.

disc swapping drove me crazy in ME2, nothing is better than flying through the omega relay, with my heart pumping and adrenaline rushing, then all the sudden "switch the disc plz"

oh god, never again.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 02:43

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lol heavy much?


Yeah...not even close. If you have nothing to contribute to the post, don't bother posting please. If the scheme in ME2 doesn't bother you, fine, but no need to attack me.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 02:44

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camirish1 wrote...

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I'm pretty sure disc swapping is the closest thing to exercise that some of the people complaining about it get.


I wasn't talking about being lazy, it just seems silly that you need to swap disk 2-3 times (depending if you play after the credits) in a single playthrough for only 2 discs.  I have never seen that happen in a multi-disk game. Recently saw a twitter post saying the Xbox version will most likely have 2 discs again, so I was curious if it was different this time around.

Edit: Want to clarify, I understand the DRM with Xbox doesn't allow for a single disk to play even with the game installed.  And swapping disks is not that big of a problem for me.


I've actually read that Mass Effect 3 will be only 1 disk, not 2.

I don't remember where I read this though.

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Luc0s wrote...

camirish1 wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

I'm pretty sure disc swapping is the closest thing to exercise that some of the people complaining about it get.


I wasn't talking about being lazy, it just seems silly that you need to swap disk 2-3 times (depending if you play after the credits) in a single playthrough for only 2 discs.  I have never seen that happen in a multi-disk game. Recently saw a twitter post saying the Xbox version will most likely have 2 discs again, so I was curious if it was different this time around.

Edit: Want to clarify, I understand the DRM with Xbox doesn't allow for a single disk to play even with the game installed.  And swapping disks is not that big of a problem for me.


I've actually read that Mass Effect 3 will be only 1 disk, not 2.

I don't remember where I read this though.


I was just about to ask where you got that infromation.:lol:

Modifié par Mass Effect Player, 15 janvier 2012 - 02:46 .

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Mass Effect Player wrote...

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camirish1 wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

I'm pretty sure disc swapping is the closest thing to exercise that some of the people complaining about it get.


I wasn't talking about being lazy, it just seems silly that you need to swap disk 2-3 times (depending if you play after the credits) in a single playthrough for only 2 discs.  I have never seen that happen in a multi-disk game. Recently saw a twitter post saying the Xbox version will most likely have 2 discs again, so I was curious if it was different this time around.

Edit: Want to clarify, I understand the DRM with Xbox doesn't allow for a single disk to play even with the game installed.  And swapping disks is not that big of a problem for me.


I've actually read that Mass Effect 3 will be only 1 disk, not 2.

I don't remember where I read this though.


I was just about to ask where you got that infromation.:lol:


Found it.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:05

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While I play on PC and have no idea how big the 360's disc space is, I question how much content there is in the game if they are not only using one instead of two. Don't know if they are using a bigger disc, or the 360's general disc size got bigger. :huh: If anyone has info on this, please explain.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:12

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While I play on PC and have no idea how big the 360's disc space is, I question how much content there is in the game if they are not only using one instead of two. Don't know if they are using a bigger disc, or the 360's general disc size got bigger. :huh: If anyone has info on this, please explain.


Xbox360 discs are dual-layer DVDs that can hold twice as much content as a regular DVD. That's about 9,4GB.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:14

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Luc0s wrote...

Zenor wrote...

While I play on PC and have no idea how big the 360's disc space is, I question how much content there is in the game if they are not only using one instead of two. Don't know if they are using a bigger disc, or the 360's general disc size got bigger. :huh: If anyone has info on this, please explain.


Xbox360 discs are dual-layer DVDs that can hold twice as much content as a regular DVD. That's about 9,4GB.


9.4 GB or 9 or 4 GB? Either way, that's less then the 15GB (actual space I forget, think it was 12.4) space ME2 had. So it still worries me a bit then, content wise. 

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camirish1 wrote...

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I'm pretty sure disc swapping is the closest thing to exercise that some of the people complaining about it get.


I wasn't talking about being lazy, it just seems silly that you need to swap disk 2-3 times (depending if you play after the credits) in a single playthrough for only 2 discs.  I have never seen that happen in a multi-disk game. Recently saw a twitter post saying the Xbox version will most likely have 2 discs again, so I was curious if it was different this time around.

Edit: Want to clarify, I understand the DRM with Xbox doesn't allow for a single disk to play even with the game installed.  And swapping disks is not that big of a problem for me.


I've actually read that Mass Effect 3 will be only 1 disk, not 2.

I don't remember where I read this though.


I was just about to ask where you got that infromation.:lol:


Found it.


Would've been nice if they provided a link to the blog.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:29

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I've actually read that Mass Effect 3 will be only 1 disk, not 2.

I don't remember where I read this though.


I was just about to ask where you got that infromation.:lol:


Found it.


Would've been nice if they provided a link to the blog.


It's at the bottom of the article. Are you really that blind? :unsure:


Here, just for you: link

Modifié par Luc0s, 15 janvier 2012 - 03:30 .

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I've actually read that Mass Effect 3 will be only 1 disk, not 2.

I don't remember where I read this though.


I was just about to ask where you got that infromation.:lol:


Found it.


Would've been nice if they provided a link to the blog.


It's at the bottom of the article. Are you really that blind? :unsure:


Here, just for you: link


D'oh:pinched::pinched::pinched:. I thought that was just the regular Bioware website.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:31

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Zenor wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Zenor wrote...

While I play on PC and have no idea how big the 360's disc space is, I question how much content there is in the game if they are not only using one instead of two. Don't know if they are using a bigger disc, or the 360's general disc size got bigger. :huh: If anyone has info on this, please explain.


Xbox360 discs are dual-layer DVDs that can hold twice as much content as a regular DVD. That's about 9,4GB.


9.4 GB or 9 or 4 GB? Either way, that's less then the 15GB (actual space I forget, think it was 12.4) space ME2 had. So it still worries me a bit then, content wise. 

If they would do a double-sided disc, then it would be just one disc,
but that would still require us to get up and flip the thing over.

Modifié par Doofe2012, 15 janvier 2012 - 03:32 .

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:35

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 How does that confirm no disk swapping? The only thing I saw was this

Will co-op have its own disk, and/or executable? If not, how much space will it take up?

It will be included on the main disk. As for how much space, I’m not
sure at this point. It’s mainly content so it is sizable but not so
much that it affects the SP experience.


Modifié par Mass Effect Player, 15 janvier 2012 - 03:35 .

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:35

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Luc0s wrote...

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

camirish1 wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

I'm pretty sure disc swapping is the closest thing to exercise that some of the people complaining about it get.


I wasn't talking about being lazy, it just seems silly that you need to swap disk 2-3 times (depending if you play after the credits) in a single playthrough for only 2 discs.  I have never seen that happen in a multi-disk game. Recently saw a twitter post saying the Xbox version will most likely have 2 discs again, so I was curious if it was different this time around.

Edit: Want to clarify, I understand the DRM with Xbox doesn't allow for a single disk to play even with the game installed.  And swapping disks is not that big of a problem for me.


I've actually read that Mass Effect 3 will be only 1 disk, not 2.

I don't remember where I read this though.


I was just about to ask where you got that infromation.:lol:


Found it.




Actually I found this from Mr. Heir from Jan 10th, who I tend to believe more:

Twitter Post

https://twitter.com/...869045021450240

Modifié par camirish1, 15 janvier 2012 - 03:36 .

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camirish1 wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Mass Effect Player wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

camirish1 wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

I'm pretty sure disc swapping is the closest thing to exercise that some of the people complaining about it get.


I wasn't talking about being lazy, it just seems silly that you need to swap disk 2-3 times (depending if you play after the credits) in a single playthrough for only 2 discs.  I have never seen that happen in a multi-disk game. Recently saw a twitter post saying the Xbox version will most likely have 2 discs again, so I was curious if it was different this time around.

Edit: Want to clarify, I understand the DRM with Xbox doesn't allow for a single disk to play even with the game installed.  And swapping disks is not that big of a problem for me.


I've actually read that Mass Effect 3 will be only 1 disk, not 2.

I don't remember where I read this though.


I was just about to ask where you got that infromation.:lol:


Found it.




Actually I found this from Mr. Heir from Jan 10th, who I tend to believe more:

Twitter Post


Senior Designer fro ME3. No doubt.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:37

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BioWare pretty slavishly follows a 3-act structure. It will probably be at the act breaks, just like it was in ME2.

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Doofe2012 wrote...

Zenor wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Zenor wrote...

While I play on PC and have no idea how big the 360's disc space is, I question how much content there is in the game if they are not only using one instead of two. Don't know if they are using a bigger disc, or the 360's general disc size got bigger. :huh: If anyone has info on this, please explain.


Xbox360 discs are dual-layer DVDs that can hold twice as much content as a regular DVD. That's about 9,4GB.


9.4 GB or 9 or 4 GB? Either way, that's less then the 15GB (actual space I forget, think it was 12.4) space ME2 had. So it still worries me a bit then, content wise. 

If they would do a double-sided disc, then it would be just one disc,
but that would still require us to get up and flip the thing over.


dual-layered =/= double-sided


A dual-layered DVD is a DVD with 2 layers on the same side. it's 2x 4,7GB = 9,4GB. Since both layers are on the same side, you don't have to get up and flip it over. The disk does not have to be flipped.


A dual-layered double-sided DVD would be 2x 9,4GB = 18,8GB. This disk does have to be flipped.

Modifié par Luc0s, 15 janvier 2012 - 03:40 .

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Luc0s wrote...

It's at the bottom of the article. Are you really that blind? :unsure:

Here, just for you: link


And if you read that post it clearly does not say ME3 will ship on one disk.  It only says that the co-op will not be a separate disk, but will ship on the main ME3 disk (implying more than one disk).  It says nothing about the number of disks for single player.

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[quote]Mass Effect Player wrote...

Actually I found this from Mr. Heir from Jan 10th, who I tend to believe more:

Twitter Post[/quote]

Senior Designer fro ME3. No doubt.

[/quote]

Fair enough.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:43

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Hm, that would make more sense. I was wondering how they would of just went from two discs to one without cutting content (or having less). Good eye walker, and camish for showing that one tweet.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:43

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And found this:
Another Twitter Post

"...Fairly sure 360 is 2 discs."

So I finally found the initial reason I made this post.  He says "fairly sure"; I'm hoping to get confirmation one way or the other.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:48

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Maybe you can install the second disc and play on the first.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:51

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Wow those two discs must be so damn heavy, how unfortunate that in order to finish one of the best games ever made you'll have to lug that heavy disc and switch it out for hte other extremely heavy disc, and have to walk what I assume would be 5 steps total, boo hoo.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:51

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What you have to remember even though disc 2 is as big as the first disc , a lot of the information on it is copied data from the disc 1 with only a small percentage being different information.

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Posté 15 janvier 2012 - 03:51

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LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Maybe you can install the second disc and play on the first.


I wish this could happen too, but I believe there is a DRM issue that doesn't allow that to work on XBOX. 
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