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Isn't it another problem that Korra already fixed those things last season. She opened the portals, and Vaatu was deminished but not trapped... His and Raava's natural cycle is back to normal. He'll emerge from Raava in a new Avatar eventually... Right? Wan's meddling has been undone.

 

Not entirely undone since they were joined to begin with but it's true Vaatu will return eventually. As Raava told Wan, she cannot destroy darkness any more than he can light.



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"Beats me what the muzzle is for"

 

She can breathe fire.



#2553
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"Beats me what the muzzle is for"

 

She can breathe fire.

 

Just give her antacid then.



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Not entirely undone since they were joined to begin with but it's true Vaatu will return eventually. As Raava told Wan, she cannot destroy darkness any more than he can light.

I'm willing to bet that when one of them is destroyed, it just reappears "inside" the other. I'm pretty sure that's what happened at the end of book2. Vaatu "destroyed" Raava, and then Raava reapeared inside of Vaatu. Weak, small, but she was there. I think Jinora just made her surface somehow, and then Korra dragged her out.

Vaatu is probably present inside Korra. Just too weak to have any influence. He probably won't be able to do anything until the next harmonic convergence.

It's all just theory, but from the way the relationship between Raava and Vaatu was explained and the events in book 2, that seems like the most likely scenario to me.



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I love how everyone keeps saying how dumb Wan was for closing the portals.

 

Were I in his position I would've done the same thing. There's mild...Racism for lack of a better word the the current Korra days that turned to extreme violence (That Vaatu helped instigate but the Spirits Vs. Humans thing would've happened without him) in Wans time.

It wasn't stupid it was what at the time seemed right. 


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And once again, Ming Hua completely annihilates her opponents. She's definitely my favorite of the new benders.

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The first Avatar (Wan) closed to portals because he imprisoned Vaatu in the spirit world, and he did not want anyone to enter the spirit world to release Vaatu.  With Vaatu gone, Korra  would no longer have that consideration.

 

The more interesting question is: where did Vaatu go when Korra and Raava vanquished him?  According to the established lore, Vaatu would be reborn inside Raava.  Vaatu would incubate and grow bigger and bigger over the next 10,000 years until he would finally re-emerge from Raava.  We know Raava exists inside Korra.  So does that mean Vaatu is also inside Korra as a part of Raava?  How will Vaatu re-emerge from Raava when Raava is inside Korra? 



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How will Vaatu re-emerge from Raava when Raava is inside Korra? 

He wouldn't. He'd reemerge from whomever is the Avatar in 10,000 years. I'd expect we'd have a darker, more ruthless Avatar during that period, until Vaatu is expelled and he and Raava battle.



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This comic cracks me up.

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Very clever use of screen caps. :D



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LMAO. Nothing is sacred with you people. Nothing.


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I love how everyone keeps saying how dumb Wan was for closing the portals.

 

Were I in his position I would've done the same thing. There's mild...Racism for lack of a better word the the current Korra days that turned to extreme violence (That Vaatu helped instigate but the Spirits Vs. Humans thing would've happened without him) in Wans time.

It wasn't stupid it was what at the time seemed right. 

 

I wouldn't say Wan was a complete idiot, but I was shocked (and somewhat happy) to see that the writers chose not to portray him in a "perfect" light, despite being the first Avatar. It's similar to how I was glad about their handling of Aang's and Toph's parenting, which was by no means perfect. It makes all three characters seem more human. 

 

The problem with Wan's solution is that the presentation gives viewers the impression that he viewed the separation of the spirit and physical planes as a permanent endeavor, as opposed to a temporary solution for the time being. This would be like saying that the solution to the Fire Nation conflict once Ozai was defeated was simply to put a giant wall around them, permanently.

 

We have had quite a few characters (especially Iroh) remark on the importance of balance between the four nations, but he's a perfect demonstration of how that should apply to the Spirit World as much as the material world. So I wouldn't say Wan was a moron at all, but I do think his logic in that instance was very much flawed. 



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Isn't it another problem that Korra already fixed those things last season. She opened the portals, and Vaatu was deminished but not trapped... His and Raava's natural cycle is back to normal. He'll emerge from Raava in a new Avatar eventually... Right? Wan's meddling has been undone.

 

He'll likely re-emerge, but I don't think he'll automatically function as a new Avatar. He would likely have to go through the same process with any human at the next harmonic convergence, as per last time.



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I wouldn't say Wan was a complete idiot, but I was shocked (and somewhat happy) to see that the writers chose not to portray him in a "perfect" light, despite being the first Avatar. It's similar to how I was glad about their handling of Aang's and Toph's parenting, which was by no means perfect. It makes all three characters seem more human. 

 

The problem with Wan's solution is that the presentation gives viewers the impression that he viewed the separation of the spirit and physical planes as a permanent endeavor, as opposed to a temporary solution for the time being. This would be like saying that the solution to the Fire Nation conflict once Ozai was defeated was simply to put a giant wall around them, permanently.

 

We have had quite a few characters (especially Iroh) remark on the importance of balance between the four nations, but he's a perfect demonstration of how that should apply to the Spirit World as much as the material world. So I wouldn't say Wan was a moron at all, but I do think his logic in that instance was very much flawed. 

It was, but as I said. Beginnings showed Spirits aren't fond of humans and vice-versa.

What Wan did was misguided sure but it wasn't without reason.

 

Considering what happened in The Promise you're not actually that far off.



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It was, but as I said. Beginnings showed Spirits aren't fond of humans and vice-versa.

What Wan did was misguided sure but it wasn't without reason.

 

Considering what happened in The Promise you're not actually that far off.

 

Well, depends on what you consider reason. Wan's function is completely in contradiction with his actions regarding the Spirit World. Again, everyone reiterating the point on the Avatar's role being to "preserve balance", which he himself states. If his solution for every large scale conflict is going to be "permanent isolation" for everyone, then I can't really see how he was acting with reason or even acting consistently with his function. Hence why I suggest there being an important difference between a temporary vs. permanent isolation, which he doesn't draw any attention to. He sees his function as being a permanent bridge between the two. 

 

Hell, by Korra's time if we followed Wan's approach, the Spirit World would be separate, the Fire Nation would be completely locked down, and depending on how things turn out we could have seen the Water and Earth Nations follow suit. It's really not a philosophy that helps anyone, in the long term. 



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Was his first time out though.

And certain Avatars (Roku especially) would've done just that.



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Wan is still badass regardless ....,
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#2569
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Was his first time out though.

And certain Avatars (Roku especially) would've done just that.

 

Roku I think is unlikely, just my opinion from his interactions with Aang regarding the "Avatar and the Fire Lord" episode. Kyoshi on the other hand did pull a pretty similar stunt regarding Kyoshi Island. 

 

Wan is still badass regardless ....,

 

He's my favorite Avatar, without a doubt. 



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This comic cracks me up.

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This never gets old.



#2571
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This never gets old.

 

The Korrasami shipping is strong this season. :D



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He's my favorite Avatar, without a doubt. 

Nope. Kyoshi still wrecks everybody.



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Preview clip for episode Long Live the Queen: http://dongbufeng.tu...ive-the-queen-x



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The Korrasami shipping is strong this season. :D

 

I hope Bolin gets a piece of Asami. Underdog getting the hot girl is one of my favorite tropes.

 

Some people might disagree.