He is supposed to be very powerful. I'd like to see him again as well, his threatening calm voice was eerie.xsdob wrote...
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The face stealer Koh?xsdob wrote...
What if amon has some kind of connection to Koh?
Yeah, maybe they made some sort of deal and now amon has the power to overcome peoples bending abilites or something.
This is just wild speculation and maybe a little bit of a wish to see more of that guy.
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It's fairly obvious that bloodbending can be overcome... with willpower.
When Tarlok bloodbended Amon, we saw Amon struggled a bit. Then Amon overcame Tarlok's bloodbending with his sheer force of will.
When Tarlok bloodbended Amon, we saw Amon struggled a bit. Then Amon overcame Tarlok's bloodbending with his sheer force of will.
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I still favor no blood/platinum suit.
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KT Chong wrote...
It's fairly obvious that bloodbending can be overcome... with willpower.
When Tarlok bloodbended Amon, we saw Amon struggled a bit. Then Amon overcame Tarlok's bloodbending with his sheer force of will.
Amon just looked so badass, he slowed down abit, got stiff and then just continued walking like a boss. Simply a walk in the park for him.
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It's fairly obvious that bloodbending can be overcome... with willpower.
When Tarlok bloodbended Amon, we saw Amon struggled a bit. Then Amon overcame Tarlok's bloodbending with his sheer force of will.
So far there have been 3 people seen overcoming it with will power, katara, older aang, and amon. Katara was a water bender and aang had help from his own spiritual energy to do so. Amon, as far as we can tell, is not a bender of any sort, let alone a water bender as skilled as katara to be able to overcome hama's technique, which I attribute to her using her water bending skills to counteract the effects.
So, that leaves him to either have some kind of outside help or being something else entirly that we have no knowledge of.
Or you could be right as well, we shall see if the season finale answers our questions or just leaves us with more questions.
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On a side note, would anyone here mind if I post an korra related party temple image?
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Go for it. I'm sure it'll be hilariously nonsensical.xsdob wrote...
On a side note, would anyone here mind if I post an korra related party temple image?
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lol find more of those.
That one is good.
That one is good.
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Is the season nearly over now? saw an advertisement for the apparent final, feels like it's only just begun.
Was kind of hoping for more of the Yakone/Tarrlok plot but I guess that's gone away with tarrlok's bending now. Would have been interesting to see another villain similar to Long Feng who wanted control of the city, oh well.
Was kind of hoping for more of the Yakone/Tarrlok plot but I guess that's gone away with tarrlok's bending now. Would have been interesting to see another villain similar to Long Feng who wanted control of the city, oh well.
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Lol nice! Restaurants rarely help someone take over the city.xsdob wrote...
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Is the season nearly over now? saw an advertisement for the apparent final, feels like it's only just begun.
Was kind of hoping for more of the Yakone/Tarrlok plot but I guess that's gone away with tarrlok's bending now. Would have been interesting to see another villain similar to Long Feng who wanted control of the city, oh well.
We've got an episode this coming Saturday and then the two-part one hour finale the Saturday after that. For some reason Nick has decided to pretend the upcoming episode doesn't exist and is only advertising the finale, which I think has a lot of people confused. From what I've heard, the show was originally conceived as a mini-series, which is why the season is so short. We get less filler than ATLA, but also fewer episodes.
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On another subject, I'm looking forward to seeing why excatly Amon always does his energy bending while standing behind his target, while Aang stands facing them. Everytime we see Amon energy bend, he's in the same position, which is completely different from Aang. I'm pretty darn sure this is significant somehow.
Seems I was wrong, just re-watched episode 6 and Amon is facing Tahno when he takes away his bending. I guess he just stands behind them because it's easier to limit their movements like this. He doesn't have the advantage of earthbending, unlike Aang.
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The question is, energy bending was supposed to be unique to the avatar since he/she is supposed to be the essence of nature itself. I have the suspicion Amon isn't human, or at least not human any longer.
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jollyorigins wrote...
Is the season nearly over now? saw an advertisement for the apparent final, feels like it's only just begun.
Was kind of hoping for more of the Yakone/Tarrlok plot but I guess that's gone away with tarrlok's bending now. Would have been interesting to see another villain similar to Long Feng who wanted control of the city, oh well.
We've got an episode this coming Saturday and then the two-part one hour finale the Saturday after that. For some reason Nick has decided to pretend the upcoming episode doesn't exist and is only advertising the finale, which I think has a lot of people confused. From what I've heard, the show was originally conceived as a mini-series, which is why the season is so short. We get less filler than ATLA, but also fewer episodes.
I think it would be a little better with some filler because we would get a lot more character development. After Korra broke Bolin's widdle heart Bolin hasn't done much beside be comic relief.
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This is a popular speculation, which I support becaus it makes the most logical sense: Amon is Aang and Katara's second/middle child, Bumi, who "supposedly" was born without any bending ability. Bumi was actually born with energy-bending, a bending ability that is not easily identified and recognized. (Aang and Katara's eldest child is Kya, a waterbender; middle is Bumi, supposedly a non-bender; and finally the youngest is Tenzin, the airbender.)
Even though a fantasy world has magic and supernatural powers, the world still has to be internally consistent and logical. It still has to follow a certain set of rules, the physical laws that govern that world. These rules or physical laws are are set up by the creators. Once the rules/laws are introduced to the audiences, they should not be violated or broken; otherwise nothing in the world would make sense, and the story would just become a mess of nonsense.
So far, we observe these rules are to be true and consistent in the world of the Avatar:
1. Bending is a hereditary trait. With the exception of the Avatar, all other benders inherit bending from their parents.
2. A bender can only inherit one kind of bending from parents.
If someone has parents who are different benders that can bend different elements, (i.e., a firebender father and an earthbender mother,) then he/she can inherit at most one and only one and never both bending, (or he can inherit no bending and be a non-bender.)
3. A bender can inherit only a bending that his/her parent pocesses.
So, if someone has parents who were both firebenders or one firebender and one non-bender, then he would inherit only firebending and be only a firebender, (or possibly a non-bender.) He could never become an aribender, a waterbender or an earthbender.
If someone has a parent who was firebender and another parent who was earthbender, then he could be either a firebender, an earthbender or a non-bender, but he would never be an airbender or waterbender
(Again, the only exception is the Avatar, who can bend all elements even if he/she was born into a family of non-benders.)
4. Bending cannot be acquire if one was not born with it.
A firebender who has only firebending parentage can never learn to airbend, waterbend or earthbend, etc. A non-bender can never learn to bend any element. One has to born with the innate potential to bend before he/she learns how to bend. Bending is not an acquired trait.
So, let's put all the rules together:
There was only one and only one person who could energy-bend. (We know who he was: the previous Avatar, Aang) So only his children could possibly inherit energy-bending. Other than Aang, no one else could energy-bend. So there was no one else in the world who could possibly pass on energy-bending to his/her children.
Aang has three children. His children are not the (or an) Avatar. So each of his children can inherit one and only one bending from either Aang (Avatar/airbender father) or Katara (waterbender mother.) Of the three children, we know the eldest, Kya, inherited waterbending, (presumably from the mother-side, but her Avatar father could also bend water.) The youngest., Tenzin, inherited airbending (obviously from the father-side.) So the eldest and youngest had already inherited one -- and only one -- bending from their parents. That leaves Bumi, the middle child, who was supposedly born without bending.... or did he?
Maybe he did inherit a bending from his father... energy-bending. However, energy-bending, unlike the other traditional bendings, does not have any obvious sign that is immediately recognizable. (All other bendings have obvious signs: a firebender can create fire out of thin air. An airbender can generate winds and push people with air. A waterbender can manipulate water. An earthbender can move rocks and stones.) Energy-bending has no obvious sign. It has no precedence, (Aang was the only known person who could bend energy; no one else was known to have done it before Aang rediscovered the long-forgotten bending.)
Maybe Bumi was born with energy-bending, but was misidentified as a non-bender. Even Bumi must have thought thought of himself as a non-bender as he was growing up, and he did not discover his innate talent to bend other people's energy until later in his life. That would also provide the perfect explanation for Bumi's movativation to "equalize" the world. Imagine this: the middle child who was born into a family of legendary benders. His father Aang was the Avatar who saved the world. His mother Katara is one of the most powerful waterbenders in the world. His elder sister is a waterbender. His younger brother is an airbender, the only hope who could revive the extinct airbender race. Yet he was born with no bending. How do you think he would feel as he was growing up in that family, even if his family had treated him as best as they could?
He must have grown up with a serious complex, feeling slighted and growing jelous of his bender siblings. He must have developed a hatred for bending, which must have made his youth difficult to some extent. Then, finally, at some point later in his life, he discovered he actually has a bending: Energy-bending! Energy-bending that allows him to take away bending from other benders. What do you think he would do with that newfound power?
So, it would make perfect sense that Bumi is Amon. Only he has the necessary parentage. And he has a strong motive.
I do not believe Amon could have "learned" energy-bending if he was not born with it. Remember the rule that we already know about that world: bending is not something a non-bender can acquire if he was not born with it. If Amon had learned energy-bending, that means bending is an ability that can be learned by non-bender. That would break the known rules set up by the storytellers.
If bending can be acquired and learned, why doesn't Amon just teach all non-benders to energy-bend? That is a so much better way to "equalize" the world, to just give bending to everyone, to teach all non-benders how to use energy-bending to neutralize benders. Because he can't. He can't teach energy-bending to people who were not born with it... like he was.
Even though a fantasy world has magic and supernatural powers, the world still has to be internally consistent and logical. It still has to follow a certain set of rules, the physical laws that govern that world. These rules or physical laws are are set up by the creators. Once the rules/laws are introduced to the audiences, they should not be violated or broken; otherwise nothing in the world would make sense, and the story would just become a mess of nonsense.
So far, we observe these rules are to be true and consistent in the world of the Avatar:
1. Bending is a hereditary trait. With the exception of the Avatar, all other benders inherit bending from their parents.
2. A bender can only inherit one kind of bending from parents.
If someone has parents who are different benders that can bend different elements, (i.e., a firebender father and an earthbender mother,) then he/she can inherit at most one and only one and never both bending, (or he can inherit no bending and be a non-bender.)
3. A bender can inherit only a bending that his/her parent pocesses.
So, if someone has parents who were both firebenders or one firebender and one non-bender, then he would inherit only firebending and be only a firebender, (or possibly a non-bender.) He could never become an aribender, a waterbender or an earthbender.
If someone has a parent who was firebender and another parent who was earthbender, then he could be either a firebender, an earthbender or a non-bender, but he would never be an airbender or waterbender
(Again, the only exception is the Avatar, who can bend all elements even if he/she was born into a family of non-benders.)
4. Bending cannot be acquire if one was not born with it.
A firebender who has only firebending parentage can never learn to airbend, waterbend or earthbend, etc. A non-bender can never learn to bend any element. One has to born with the innate potential to bend before he/she learns how to bend. Bending is not an acquired trait.
So, let's put all the rules together:
There was only one and only one person who could energy-bend. (We know who he was: the previous Avatar, Aang) So only his children could possibly inherit energy-bending. Other than Aang, no one else could energy-bend. So there was no one else in the world who could possibly pass on energy-bending to his/her children.
Aang has three children. His children are not the (or an) Avatar. So each of his children can inherit one and only one bending from either Aang (Avatar/airbender father) or Katara (waterbender mother.) Of the three children, we know the eldest, Kya, inherited waterbending, (presumably from the mother-side, but her Avatar father could also bend water.) The youngest., Tenzin, inherited airbending (obviously from the father-side.) So the eldest and youngest had already inherited one -- and only one -- bending from their parents. That leaves Bumi, the middle child, who was supposedly born without bending.... or did he?
Maybe he did inherit a bending from his father... energy-bending. However, energy-bending, unlike the other traditional bendings, does not have any obvious sign that is immediately recognizable. (All other bendings have obvious signs: a firebender can create fire out of thin air. An airbender can generate winds and push people with air. A waterbender can manipulate water. An earthbender can move rocks and stones.) Energy-bending has no obvious sign. It has no precedence, (Aang was the only known person who could bend energy; no one else was known to have done it before Aang rediscovered the long-forgotten bending.)
Maybe Bumi was born with energy-bending, but was misidentified as a non-bender. Even Bumi must have thought thought of himself as a non-bender as he was growing up, and he did not discover his innate talent to bend other people's energy until later in his life. That would also provide the perfect explanation for Bumi's movativation to "equalize" the world. Imagine this: the middle child who was born into a family of legendary benders. His father Aang was the Avatar who saved the world. His mother Katara is one of the most powerful waterbenders in the world. His elder sister is a waterbender. His younger brother is an airbender, the only hope who could revive the extinct airbender race. Yet he was born with no bending. How do you think he would feel as he was growing up in that family, even if his family had treated him as best as they could?
He must have grown up with a serious complex, feeling slighted and growing jelous of his bender siblings. He must have developed a hatred for bending, which must have made his youth difficult to some extent. Then, finally, at some point later in his life, he discovered he actually has a bending: Energy-bending! Energy-bending that allows him to take away bending from other benders. What do you think he would do with that newfound power?
So, it would make perfect sense that Bumi is Amon. Only he has the necessary parentage. And he has a strong motive.
I do not believe Amon could have "learned" energy-bending if he was not born with it. Remember the rule that we already know about that world: bending is not something a non-bender can acquire if he was not born with it. If Amon had learned energy-bending, that means bending is an ability that can be learned by non-bender. That would break the known rules set up by the storytellers.
If bending can be acquired and learned, why doesn't Amon just teach all non-benders to energy-bend? That is a so much better way to "equalize" the world, to just give bending to everyone, to teach all non-benders how to use energy-bending to neutralize benders. Because he can't. He can't teach energy-bending to people who were not born with it... like he was.
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Damn you youtube! You've ruined the surpised and revealed amon's identity!!!
"Now cracks a noble heart. Good-night, sweet prince; And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest." - Hamlet, scene II, act V.
"Now cracks a noble heart. Good-night, sweet prince; And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest." - Hamlet, scene II, act V.
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The avatar and lion turtles.android654 wrote...
The question is, energy bending was supposed to be unique to the avatar since he/she is supposed to be the essence of nature itself. I have the suspicion Amon isn't human, or at least not human any longer.
Like earth bending and badger moles.
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Amon is an "ENERGYBENDER". He uses energybending every time he takes away someone's bending.. He obviously used his energybending to counter the bloodbending. And if I remember correctly, the Lion turtle says energybending was rare but not restricted to Avatars and later died out for some reason.
Of course if that was true, theres more questions that pop up like, how did he inherit it? So far this is all guesswork but Im certain at least 1 thing is for sure about this theory, Amon IS an energy bender.
Of course if that was true, theres more questions that pop up like, how did he inherit it? So far this is all guesswork but Im certain at least 1 thing is for sure about this theory, Amon IS an energy bender.
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Damn you youtube! You've ruined the surpised and revealed amon's identity!!!
"Now cracks a noble heart. Good-night, sweet prince; And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest." - Hamlet, scene II, act V.
Amon will die protecting Republic City from the Fire Nation Fleet?
lulz.
But yeah I think we all are jumping the gun here on Amon actullying taking the bending away. He might have just found a way to turn it off via chi blocking. It might be able to switch it back on. Then again when Aang did it, the light show wasn't on that other time...so who knows. The first time he "died" maybe part of the Avatar spirit found roots elsewhere. Or maybe some other option.
Though I'm sure he is human and the malice he holds towards benders is real. Just noticed Hellhounds post, that could be correct.
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Horatio survives. That more or less makes him the exception.
Mayhap the "lightshow" was just how it felt to Aang at the time.
Mayhap the "lightshow" was just how it felt to Aang at the time.
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Are we talking about Hornblower here? I was refering to Nelson, who died while still having won the battle of Trafalgar.
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It's NOT Bumi. Goddammit, people aren't even ****ing thinking when they say **** like this. It was like when people said Tarrlok was Amon. It wouldn't make sense based on a few REALLY simple reasons. <_<
Look at Amon's hands. Light-skinned.
Bumi's hands? Dark-skinned. Darker than Tarrlok. As dark as Katara's.
We've seen a few close-ups of Amon's mask and had seen his eyes. Amber eyes.
Bumi's eyes? They're blue. Blue eyes, goddammit.
Look at Amon's hands. Light-skinned.
Bumi's hands? Dark-skinned. Darker than Tarrlok. As dark as Katara's.
We've seen a few close-ups of Amon's mask and had seen his eyes. Amber eyes.
Bumi's eyes? They're blue. Blue eyes, goddammit.
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I like the Koh idea better than Bumi being behind it. So far Amon has been icily calm, cunning, and driven. Finding out the source behind that coolness is someone with familial resentment and daddy issues would suck.
Looking forward to episode 11, 'Skeletons in the Closet". Apparently someone with ties to Zuko is expected to appear.
Obligatory preview clip for this Saturday's episode: "Turning the Tides: Amon's End Game"
Looking forward to episode 11, 'Skeletons in the Closet". Apparently someone with ties to Zuko is expected to appear.
Obligatory preview clip for this Saturday's episode: "Turning the Tides: Amon's End Game"
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Seagloom wrote...
I like the Koh idea better than Bumi being behind it. So far Amon has been icily calm, cunning, and driven. Finding out the source behind that coolness is someone with familial resentment and daddy issues would suck.
Looking forward to episode 11, 'Skeletons in the Closet". Apparently someone with ties to Zuko is expected to appear.
Obligatory preview clip for this Saturday's episode: "Turning the Tides: Amon's End Game"
Same here. Koh did say something like "We have unfinished, Avatar." He didn't say 'Aang.'
