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[xsdob]

Koh hates the avatar, no matter who it's reincarnated as, they're all the same person to koh.

[android654]

That's who I've been thinking of this entire time.

[Megaton_Hope]

If it's Koh, I'm interested to see how they explain it. Spirits don't seem to do much crossing over, even Koh. (Although he must, if he's going to steal many faces. Aside from the faces of spirit baboons.)

[Seagloom]

I like the Koh speculation more than the Bumi theory, but I doubt it's Koh. I do not rule out the possibility of a disgruntled spirit deciding benders cause more harm than good and being sick of it. Except a spirit is unlikely to be keen on technology. Cities are not famous for being environmentally friendly.

My money is still on Amon being a person. Perhaps a bender or someone with exceptional abilities, but still a person.

[xsdob]

I have another crazy theory as to what amon's power may actually be, but it's pretty damn out there.

What if he isn't actually taking the benders powers away as much as he is taking their power himself? What if he's actually taking their bending powers, but can only take small amounts at a time with the rest being lost. So he needs to steal large amounts of bending power in order to make himself stronger. Also, the reason he wants to wait to take korra's powers is that she has yet to master all 4 elements, and he wants her to be complete before he absorbs her power and becomes the new avatar.

He'll be the only bender left, and with more power than anyone else on the planet.

[Megaton_Hope]

Or was that baboon a spirit...they never really said. Maybe he was lost.

[The King of Dust]

I prefer the Koh theory myself, but as "Koh is behind Amon", not "Koh is Amon".

Koh could be the one who taught energy bending to Amon. He's old enough to have been around back when energy bending was common, he has a grudge against the avatar, and he plays the role of a devil like entity, offering knowledge/power, at the risk of losing your face.

He might have brought Amon into the spirit world to teach him energy bending, knowing he hates benders and would use its power to try to get rid of all bending, which would eventually lead to a confrontation with the avatar.

[Seagloom]

I can get behind that idea. It's at least more supportable than Amon being Koh in disguise. It would also tie into the whole Korra being terrible at the spiritual side of avatarhood bit.

[Blacklash93]

Just got into this series last week due to a friend reccomending it to me. Only saw snippets of AtLA when I was younger, but I'm enjoying this. Some of the Nickelodeon-brand humor is tough for me to swallow and the romance stuff can come off as rushed, but its a good story at its core.

Anyway Amon, bender or not, probably got his unique abilities and talents from a spirit or a group of spirits. He mentioned in one of the first episodes that spirits are the ones who told him to begin his campaign against bending and them giving him his abilities wouldn't be stretch if that is true.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 15 juin 2012 - 12:56 .

[Seagloom]

Not that I think the romances were handled well in either show, but I thought it made sense for Korra to reveal her feelings so bluntly. Most of the Aang/Katara "romance" was Aang crushing on her and Katara being oblivious to it for over half the series. It was so hands off in fact, I found it jarring when Katara suddenly decided she was into him after Ozai was defeated. It just seemed out of the blue after her reaction to Aang's kiss during the eclipse invasion, and her subsequent lack of showing interest in book three.

At least Korra's direct approach felt slightly less grade school. Mako and Asami on the other hand does feel rushed to me. And honestly, I'm not sure why she is into him. Less so now that it's becoming clear what an indecisive jerkass he is.

[Clover Rider]

Most TV shows have a hard time when it comes to romance/shipping writing. More so when it's the main couple.

Modifié par Some Geth, 15 juin 2012 - 10:25 .

[Megaton_Hope]

I found pairing Katara and Aang kind of odd in general, myself, because in spite of the close quarters and the life-threatening adventures, Aang is kind of a childish goofball. Katara otherwise seemed to gravitate toward older boys; the smooth-talking terrorist or the fugitive earthbender, say. With him still basically prepubescent and Katara having to mother the group, there wasn't much opportunity for sparks to fly.

They did hint she might reciprocate as far back as season one, though. See: The Fortune-Teller, The Cave of Two Lovers

[Clover Rider]

From what I know the creators of the show wanted Aang and Katara to hook up, because they like simple hero type stories and in those the hero always gets the main girl. But the show writers wanted her and Zuko together, you can take a guess on who won out on who she ends up with. :/

Modifié par Some Geth, 15 juin 2012 - 10:46 .

[Seagloom]

I prefer simple hero type stories to lame modern stereotypes. Sweet girl ends up with angst driven loner who is her polar opposite. *Yawn*. Besides that it was even less supportable than Aang + Katara. Outside their brief moment of understanding in the tunnels beneath Ba Sing Se there was no suggestion of romance there. No, I'm not counting Aang's moments of petty jealousy or June's suggesting they were together as concrete evidence.

That said, at least I liked Zuko and Katara as individual characters. Mako needs a good smack upside his head.

Modifié par Seagloom, 15 juin 2012 - 12:21 .

[Clover Rider]

Seagloom wrote...

I prefer simple hero type stories to lame modern stereotypes. Sweet girl ends up with angst driven loner who is her polar opposite. *Yawn*. Besides that it was even less supportable than Aang + Katara. Outside their brief moment of understanding in the tunnels beneath Ba Sing Se there was no suggestion of romance there. No, I'm not counting Aang's moments of petty jealousy or June's suggesting they were together as concrete evidence.

That said, at least I liked Zuko and Katara as individual characters. Mako needs a good smack upside his head.

I get what your saying and I agree but I also get what the writers wanted to do(main couples can be boring to write). They wanted more "romance moments" with Katara and Zuko in Book 3 but the creators would not have it.

Also Katara was not really much of a sweet girl.

But anyway yeah Mako needs a kick in the head.

[Seagloom]

@Some Geth

I don't know. She was very sensitive and fairly feminine in demeanor. Obviously she had nothing on Ty Lee, but compared to Toph and Suki she was definitely sweetest IMO.

In any case I'm with the creators on that one.

Also agreed on Psych. I'm actually amazed at how comfortable the Shawn/Juliet pairing has been. Usually two leads hooking up doesn't happen until the end of a series or it kills all the chemistry between them. That's why Bones is an endless exercise in unfulfilled romance and audience teasing.

Modifié par Seagloom, 15 juin 2012 - 02:54 .

[Megaton_Hope]

Seagloom wrote...

Outside their brief moment of understanding in the tunnels beneath Ba Sing Se there was no suggestion of romance there.

Also, he betrayed her immediately afterward.

[Blacklash93]

Seagloom wrote...
Mako and Asami on the other hand does feel rushed to me. And honestly, I'm not sure why she is into him. Less so now that it's becoming clear what an indecisive jerkass he is.

I meant especially this. Her first meeting with Mako where she, the daughter of the city's greatest automobile tycoon, just happens to crash into him on her moped. Then she immediately asks him out to a romantic dinner after apologizing. It was contrived and rushed to the point I was certain she set the whole thing up to get close to Team Avatar as an Equalist agent.

[Blacklash93]

I think Asami is a permanent member. If anything resembling a betrayal comes up it won't last and all will be forgiven. She's the token non-bender of the cast and balances out the gender representation of Team Avatar. She's too convinient to throw out.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 15 juin 2012 - 09:24 .

[Il Divo]

That episode was awesome, especially the last five minutes. Very emotional.

[C9316]

Well, that had to be my favorite episode by far! And General Iroh, I guess he's one of Zuko's descendants grandson maybe?

[Seagloom]

Indeed awesome. I liked that the airbenders all got a chance to shine. Tenzin had several badass moments; as did his children. It was tense for awhile. I wasn't confident Lin could defend everyone alone before the kids interfered. Guess chi blockers aren't used to fighting airbenders.

As I expected, Korra did better against the mechs this time. She doesn't lose to anyone twice.

And then after all that craziness Lin surprises me. Again. I didn't think she could possibly be cooler than she already was. There the show goes proving me wrong again. I'm comfortable saying I like her as much as Toph, now. Her comedic bit early on with Meelo was gold.

Then there was the ending. *Iroh*? I gotta imagine that is Zuko's grandson since he seems pretty young. Zuko's VA is apparently voicing him too. Nice touch. Looks like next week's season finale will be an all out war. It will be so weird seeing the Fire Nation on the heroic side. If all they have to bring to bear are airships and conventional ships, however, I think they will lose. The Equalists have cutting edge technology on their side.

Overall though, amazing episode. It had a bit of everything and all of it was done well.

Modifié par Seagloom, 16 juin 2012 - 03:41 .