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[the_one_54321]

Freaking awesome.

Also, no bodies = no confirmed death.

[TheInvicibleCandyBar]

jollyorigins wrote...

*Spoiler Comment, feel free to skip*

Hmm final episode(s) were very mixed for me, I mean the fights and the story behind Amon was good and how well he tried covering everything up. Not so sure about bloodbending someone's bending away, how would that work? I thought bloodbenders just control blood, which could do some crazy stuff but taking away bending abilities just seems a bit out the loop.

And the whole romance triangle just seemed a bit annoying and tiresome to, there was never really any breakup of Asami and Mako, it just sort of happened for a second then poof gone. I did enjoy Iroh's fights with the planes though, and I thought Amon and Tarlokk's deaths were alright as well.

But just like Tarlokk did to Amon, the ending blew it for me. The whole energybending thing in TLA as sudden and out of nowhere but the Lion Turtle was always a bit foreshadowed in some areas, so it slightly negated the impact. But here Aang just comes out of nowhere and says "Hey, well done for losing your powers but becoming spiritual, so I'll give them back to you." I feel like this is all ME3 over again, but on a much smaller scale, was kind of hoping Amon did just block people's bending via illusion but I can accept bloodbending...a little bit. (Is this how Indoctrination Theorists feel?)

Personal favorite scene is Lieutenant confronting Amon, don't know why just looked and sounded good even if he didn't do sh*t to him. That and it sounds like Hackett shouting at Grunt.

From what I gathered, blood bending can seal the physical side of bending, but not the spiritual. Overall I enjoyed the season finale a great deal, but yeah, the ending felt a little cheesy. But then I remember what channel I am watching this on and I can accept that they just don't want to end on a sour note.

Edit: Just wanna say, I hope they bring back Amon, say he survived the explosion and now he really has a scar!  I just think that bloodbenders make for excellent villians, what with the creepy way they can contort your body and all.

Modifié par TheInvicibleCandyBar, 23 juin 2012 - 10:56 .

[TheInvicibleCandyBar]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The whole "I'm going to magically save you because you're the hero" crap that went on in the last half of the final episode ruined it for me.

Well, I personally prefer LOK season one over the original Avatar until they meat Toph, which is when that series got fantastic. And I think they did a good job restricting the Avatar state until the last few minutes of the final episode, as the original avatar always bugged me with the Avatar state trump card that showed up every other episode. Why not just have Aang attack the fire nation with that? He wins with it in the end anyway!

[darthnick427]

Very pleased with the finale! So much badass

Modifié par darthnick427, 23 juin 2012 - 11:51 .

[Seagloom]

A general has that same plan and tries to goad Aang into doing just that. Shortly afterward Rokku explains death in the avatar state spells the end of their reincarnation cycle. It's too risky to use indiscriminately. We saw as much when Azula sucker punched Aang with a lightning bolt from a blind side.

I was fine with Korra getting her powers back right away, because her connection to past avatars meant she shared in all their knowledge. That means Aang's knowledge of energy bending too. The whole going through a spiritual awakening after a traumatic experience is a bit hokey, but I rolled with it.

One thing I forgot to mention in my brief critique of Amon and PTM's background story is it didn't adequately explain why Amon decided to do away with bending. We learned his motivation for seeking knowledge of energy bending, but not the mechanics of his methods or his motivation. I do not believe he blocked elements through a blood bending technique. At least that wasn't made explicitly clear to my satisfaction.

This season needed at least one extra episode to flesh his story out more. Ah well, with everything else that went down I can overlook it. It was nice to see a sunshine and rainbows ending, because frankly, I'm sick of the bittersweet approach bleeding into everything these days.

...Except for Asami. Her personal story is still pretty depressing. She got closure in the conflict with her father and not much else.

Modifié par Seagloom, 23 juin 2012 - 11:59 .

[The King of Dust]

Tarlokk said that when Amon took his bending away, he recognized his brother's bloodbending. That's a 100% confirmation that he was indeed using bloodbending to "block" people's bending.

Modifié par The King of Dust, 24 juin 2012 - 12:02 .

[Seagloom]

I caught that. Like I wrote, it wasn't made clear to my satisfaction. Reading your post, I can see how it can be taken that way. When I saw the episode I thought PTM meant it more poetically than literally. I guess I'll have to accept that explanation since it's unlikely there will ever be another.

Modifié par Seagloom, 24 juin 2012 - 12:07 .

[addiction21]

Seagloom wrote...

- Everything Bolin did.

- Naga shined in every action scene she was in.

Somewhere in this thread someone said that SOkka would steal the show from Bolin... I would like to see that episode. There would be a winner but it would be great entertainment.

I also want a day in the life of Naga.

Seagloom wrote...

- Amon's backstory was a bit meh in terms of content, but I still found myself feeling sad for him and Pony Tails Man in the end. That final scene on the boat was the second most powerful moment of the finale. I guess PTM figured it was time to end the cycle their father began. Downright tragic.

It was okay but still felt kind of pushed in to make it fit since its a shorter story/series. 

Seagloom wrote...

Criticisms...

- Korra having every element removed except airbending, then somehow overpowering Amon enough to send him propelling from a window. She couldn't touch him with three mastered elements. Suddenly she was able to overcome him with one she barely has skill in using. Then Amon stupidly waterbends out to save his life when he could have easily swam to the surface. Did he like, completely forget about maintaining his deception? Someone depicted as being so cunning acting so foolish was a bit out of character.

I pretty much expected it to come to Korra having to relay on airbending. My thoughts as to her being able to airbend is because bending it self is partly physical and spiritual/mental compentents to it.  SHe knew the physical movements to airbending but the other side just fell into place and it was just a hallway. Not much to do against blasts of winds there.  Not to mention Amon would be suprised to find out she can still bend.
Amon was shown to be rather confident that when he took Korras bending that would be the end of the Avatar.
Same goes for him doing the water bending. It looked to be more of a reflex then anything else and partly for story reasons.

Seagloom wrote...

- Tenzin's family being captured with no explanation felt like unnecessary drama. There was already enough going on there. I guess they needed a reason to include him in the finale, though.

When did that happen? Needless drama.

jreezy wrote...

I just saw the finale. I did not want nor was I expecting Korra to regain her bending in the same episode. However, she gave Lin her bending back so I'm not too mad.

Best part of that scene. Naga not wagging her tail untill lin lifts the boulders.

[Capt. Obvious]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Also, Asami get's totally betrayed by her dad and then gets unceremoniously dumped? The writers really hate that chick!

You know, all the **** that Asami has to put up with makes me admire her. Hell, you know what? It should be Korra x Asami, not Korra x Mako.

[Seagloom]

@addiction

- I did. I kinda prefer Bolin to Sokka, honestly, but it's hard to top a fan favorite.

- Naga didn't get enough screen time during the series.

- I think their story needed expanding for the reasons mentioned in a previous post. I guess it was okay considering time constraints, but I didn't feel Amon's motivations were adequately explored.

- Yeah, I realize Amon waterbending his way up was a story necessity and played off as a reflex. I just think it felt cheap. In a way Korra didn't actually defeat him. As for the hallway thing, I found it silly he didn't try to bloodbend her after she started airbending. But eh, he's a cartoon villain. Of course he's not going to play to win when it matters most. XD

@Capt. Obvious

You're the second person to suggest that pairing so far. Much as I'm all for G/G pairings in well, anything, I don't think those two would've been very good for each other. They're very different people despite finding a bit of common ground in an earlier episode.

Asami is definitely one of my favorites, though. I kinda like her and Lin more than Korra, in ways. They really gave her the short shrift. Can you imagine if this was the series finale as originally planned? Gah.

[stysiaq]

I just watched the season's finale. It was awesome, save for the romance subplot. I despised the whole Mako & Korra romance since episode 5 I guess. The dishonesty in relationship Mako represents should be punished, not rewarded.

I loved the overall Amon & Tarrlok sidestory. The plot first encouraged you to hate Amon and not trust Tarrlok, then Amon was suddenly 'better' than Tarrlok after episode 9, you hated him again after episode 10 and the season's finale moves both characters into more of a gray area, and they are truly tragic heroes.

I was kind of surprised, that Korra regained all of her bending in last few minutes, however the scene was awesome. I expected, that she'll have to slowly regain her ability herself, so, ironically, the second Book ("Water") will show us a Water Tribe born avatar having difficulties with waterbending.

[Capt. Obvious]

You know, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Lieutenant. Seriously, I really felt sorry for him once he realized that Amon was a bender. I really, really hope that he's alive. He's just so mysterious. Hell, we don't even know his damn name!

Like I said on another forum, the Lieutenant is the Boba Fett of Avatar.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 24 juin 2012 - 01:52 .

[RedArmyShogun]

I have a feeling the Lieutenant will pick up somewhere. He's not finished yet I'ld wager.

[Capt. Obvious]

jollyorigins wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

You know, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Lieutenant. Seriously, I really felt sorry for him once he realized that Amon was a bender. I really, really hope that he's alive. He's just so mysterious. Hell, we don't even know his damn name!

I mentioned him, I loved the scene between him and Amon when he gets p*ssed off. I do hope he comes back if there is a season 2, but notice when Amon and Tarrlok are in the speedboat and Tarrlok grabs an equalist glove, the Lieutenant's shock sticks are near Amon, so did he go back in the same building Korra and Mako were in and then go to Tarrlok's prison? that must have been awkward, just seeing Amon walk past you again to grab some electric sticks.

Actually now that I realise it if it wasn't for Lieutenant Mako would never have been able to electrocute Amon, so in a way Lieutenant is the true hero here. God everyone is coming up as stronger characters than Korra and Mako at this point. 

I still like Korra. It's just Mako I don't like.

Also, for the record jollyorigins, there IS going to be a Season 2. It's been confirmed.

My wishlist for Season 2 is something like this:

-The return of the Lieutenant.

-Mako's death.

-More character development for Bolin.

-More character development for General Iroh. Seriously, Iroh had some great action scenes in the finale, but his character is paper-thin.

-More Bumi!

-A new and interesting villain.

-More cameos from the original cast.

-A sub-bending for airbenders.

-I want to know how the Equalists are reacting to the fact that Amon was a waterbender.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 24 juin 2012 - 03:05 .

[Megaton_Hope]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

-More cameos from the original cast.

Booooooooooooooo.

Not sure how I feel about this bloodbending thing. I guess it's all right. Not great.

[Ophir147]

I'm glad there's another season to go, because they've got some 'splainin to do about:

-Lieutenant?
-Bloodbending=Spiritbending?
-Cabbage Guy

Otherwise, I believe that the season was wrapped up nicely