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[spirosz]

OdanUrr wrote...

and I don't understand why they couldn't have done this more slowly.

This too.  

[spirosz]

Spoiler -

Just reading some tumblr posts -

"Based on the examples shown in ATLA, Avatar Aang and Avatar Roku got to travel around the world to master the 3 elements (aside from their native element) while Korra was stuck in her own compound in the Southern Water Tribe, only to try train Airbending in Republic City, which was her only taste of freedom. This would explain why she had trouble with her spiritual side.

Roku found out he was the Avatar when he turned 16.

Aang found out he was the Avatar when he was 12 (War reasons)

Korra found out she was the Avatar around 5 years old and had the White Lotus kept her safe in the Southern Water Tribe to master the elements, Aang may have feared that the next Avatar would not be safe and cause another genocide, and then there was Tonraq who wanted to protect her all the time. She had her own compound where she is trapped, sometimes isn’t allowed to take Naga out for a stroll, and the White Lotus keeping a constant watch on her; This would explain her sheltered life, rebellious attitude, and her surprise when she has an opportunity to make decisions for herself. Because she has always been told what to do.

Maybe Aang also wanted Korra to know her true identity as the Avatar in a young age so that she wouldn’t be shocked and confused. The sad thing is, being the Avatar is the only thing that makes her feel great, she’s not like Aang who is hesitant to admit he’s the Avatar, she acknowledges it. I’m sure Aang and Roku experienced being “normal” and they know that there is more to life than being the Avatar. But for Korra, she knew she was the Avatar from the very start, that is why she has built her identity and life to being the Avatar and nothing else.

It would explain why she was so mad at Tonraq, she had no freedom to choose where to go since she was a child. (not to mention the secrets he had kept for so many years)

I’m so glad that they’re addressing her sheltered life this season! I hope she’ll have the chance to grow and find her own path as the Avatar as each Avatar has their own journeys. "

[spirosz]

Another one about the pacing, which is basically a general concern, lol.

- "I still don’t think LOK knows how to pace things. i got a distinct feeling watching the episodes that there was no coherent drive in each episode. it felt like a very long unresolved movie, with incredibly limited character development. i just don’t know quite what they are going for. "


See, with me - I watched ATLA as a whole, all three seasons, never had to wait - did it on my own time, etc. Plus, their ATLA's audience has gotten older, so I'm curious as to how the feedback was with ATLA originally, when it aired on T.V.

[spirosz]

Someone has to gif Eska freezing Bolin in the ice, I died, hahaha.

Also, okay last post - haha.

Maybe they're trying to push the whole "Avatar" state with Korra because it happened infrequently during ATLA?  Though, when Aang did hit his Avatar State, it was always during a peak of that certain episode, like from the Desert, or the Earth Kingdom person putting Katara through that "sand" trick and Aang snaps.  Also, Aang has that resentment towards being the Avatar, where as Korra sort of just "falls" into place with it.  I don't know.  

Modifié par spirosz, 14 septembre 2013 - 02:02 .

[OdanUrr]

I'm going to give the premiere a second chance later tonight or maybe tomorrow. Yes, it's possible that Korra's sheltered-life issues are responsible for part of her attitude but still...

Modifié par OdanUrr, 14 septembre 2013 - 02:14 .

[spirosz]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Well, it's a realistic attitude for a teenager to have, at least.

That is very true.  

[spirosz]

I need Eska gifs, naow.

[OdanUrr]

spirosz wrote...

I need Eska gifs, naow.

Patience is a virtue.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 14 septembre 2013 - 02:28 .

[OdanUrr]

Well, at least Korra's back to stay. Now all I need is another season of Tron: Uprising and all will be well with the world.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 14 septembre 2013 - 02:49 .

[Seagloom]

I can see potential in this story arc, but so far I'm finding the side stories more interesting than the main plot. I'd rather see what Aang's clan and Asami are up to than Korra. The writing has been painfully sloppy so far. Very heavy-handed exposition two episodes running; followed by vague and seemingly forced beyond logic plot direction.

The humorous moments made this premiere for me. It almost feels like Bolin carried the second episode in particular. I wonder if this story is headed in a well meaning extremist or benevolent tyrant direction? Unalaq is already giving me that vibe. Like an odd cross of Tarrlok's ambition and Amon's cold, delusional pragmatism.

The animation is still nice, tho'. At least where it counts most. Some gorgeous panaromas so far, and I like the amorphous, yet monstrous spirit designs.

Modifié par Seagloom, 14 septembre 2013 - 03:17 .

[OdanUrr]

Seagloom wrote...

I can see potential in this story arc, but so far I'm finding the side stories more interesting than the main plot. I'd rather see what Aang's clan and Asami are up to than Korra. The writing has been painfully sloppy so far. Very heavy-handed exposition two episodes running; followed by vague and seemingly forced beyond logic plot direction.

The humorous moments made this premiere for me. It almost feels like Bolin carried the second episode in particular. I wonder if this story is headed in a well meaning extremist or benevolent tyrant direction? Unalaq is already giving me that vibe. Like an odd cross of Tarrlok's ambition with Amon's cold and delusional pragmatism.

What would you call the end of the premiere?

[Seagloom]

The second episode on Nick's website. So I guess the second episode technically? They showed them both together here. Pretty much how they packaged the first two episodes last year.

Modifié par Seagloom, 14 septembre 2013 - 03:19 .

[OdanUrr]

Seagloom wrote...

The second episode on Nick's website. So I guess the second episode technically? They showed them both together here. Pretty much how they packaged the first two episodes last year.

Yes, because that looked like an invasion to me.

[Seagloom]

It's called an opinion. People have them. You might want to remember that before acting snippy.

I don't know about you, but to me transporting an army to an area that isn't in dire need of military intervention under the pretense it's for everyone's well being comes off as iffy to me. It's already been repeatedly established that physical means are worthless to combat spirits; rendering any potential pretense there moot. Sure, Unalaq is leader and is surely allowed to do whatever he wants in that capacity, but they couldn't have made it any more obvious he's bad news without drawing a cartoon moustache on his face.

Modifié par Seagloom, 14 septembre 2013 - 03:33 .

[OdanUrr]

Seagloom wrote...

It's called an opinion. People have them. You might want to remember that before acting snippy.

I don't know about you, but to me transporting an army to an area that isn't in dire need of military intervention under the pretense it's for everyone's well being comes off as iffy to me. It's already been repeatedly established that physical means are worthless to combat spirits; rendering any potential pretense there moot. Sure, Unalaq is leader and is surely allowed to do whatever he wants in that capacity, but they couldn't have made it any more obvious he's bad news without drawing a cartoon moustache on his face.

I'm not sure where that came from. After all, I'm agreeing with you that the invasion force is anything but good news and really casts Unalaq in a bad light. Like I said, the premiere felt rushed, even for a two-parter.

My thoughts on the premiere.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 14 septembre 2013 - 03:37 .

[Seagloom]

My sincere apologies then. In my experience the icon is used to belittle or dismiss in similar contexts. When I saw it, I assumed you were being dimissive. Now I feel like a jerk. :/ Again, sorry.

I actually haven't read your post yet. I just posted my thoughts straightaway without catching up on this thread. It's been months since I followed it.

[OdanUrr]

Seagloom wrote...

My sincere apologies then. In my experience the icon is used to belittle or dismiss in similar contexts. When I saw it, I assumed you were being dimissive. Now I feel like a jerk. :/ Again, sorry.

I actually haven't read your post yet. I just posted my thoughts straightaway without catching up on this thread. It's been months since I followed it.

Ah, no problem, I just used it because of how ridiculously evil-ish and cliched that scene was presented.

"Thank you, Korra, you've opened the spirit portal thingy. Here's my invasion force. Cheers!":lol:

Modifié par OdanUrr, 14 septembre 2013 - 03:43 .

[Seagloom]

Yes, it's a little too on the nose. -.- This may be me reading too much into body language, but the way Unalaq pacifies spirits seems dubious. The pacing in those episodes was all over the place too. I think they tried to cram in too much too fast. Asami's story had nothing to do with anything, for example. And Mako's a cop now but apparently he's been given leave to visit the South to hang out with his girlfriend. Yeah... >.>

I'll check out your post later. Gotta run.

Modifié par Seagloom, 14 septembre 2013 - 03:53 .

[OdanUrr]

Anyone thinking Unalaq might have set some spirits loose in the first place for his own agenda? It's a bit convenient that spirits are showing up now, isn't it?

[Captain Obvious]

Lord Aesir wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

I'm unsure whether I'd ship Bolin/Asami or Bolin/Eska at this point. Certainly a love triangle between these characters is bound to be hilarious.

Personally, Bolin/Eska.  They make me laugh 

Nothing against Asami, but I've never found her character terribly interesting.

Really? She's so far the most interesting character. Hell, her and Korra should have been lovers.