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[The Hierophant]

fascinating

[ObserverStatus]

J. Reezy wrote...
People still watch this? Kill la Kill on Thursdays. Check it out.

You're dumb.

[Gravisanimi]

So, I watch Korra now.

Modifié par Gravisanimi, 13 octobre 2013 - 06:42 .

[ObserverStatus]

Gravisanimi wrote...
So, I watch Korra now.

Congratulations.

[Gravisanimi]

I blame the internet for telling me to watch TV shows, knowing full well I will enjoy them.

[Seagloom]

J. Reezy wrote...

Mako put the moves on Asami? I need to see this.

No, Asami put the moves on Mako. It's an odd turnaround. Mako has been growing as a character this book while everyone else with the exception of Tenzin is devolving. I can understand what the writers were going for with Asami kissing him; but it makes her come off as weak and needy.

And yes, people still watch this. Not like there's much else to watch on TV these days.

Modifié par Seagloom, 13 octobre 2013 - 08:50 .

[Seagloom]

I would. Bolin is still a source of comic relief, but he acted like a stuck up jerk in the last episode. That's a step back in my opinion. He's going in the opposite direction of Sokka. While Sokka started out as comic relief, he grew layers to his personality and group role that Bolin lacks. Bolin is essentially a walking joke on a downward trajectory. I like him and the mover side story is amusing, but I'm starting to tire of his sthick. It's very similar to how I felt about Korra in the first two episodes, and look at where she's ended up. -.-

Modifié par Seagloom, 13 octobre 2013 - 10:54 .

[Seagloom]

Just because something is justified doesn't make it right. He took the low road with Mako for petty revenge--period. Never mind there's a war brewing that could screw over everyone, or that Asami is supposedly his friend and might need his help. Nope, sticking it to Mako is more important.

Modifié par Seagloom, 13 octobre 2013 - 11:01 .

[Seagloom]

I haven't given up on the series or I would have stopped watching. There's a whole lot of episodes left to turn it around. My hope is that the next two books will be more cohesive and consistent now that they know there's extra episodes to work with.

Book one's plot suffered from being rushed since it was expected to be a one and done series. This book is suffering from trying to pick up a story that had technically concluded. Since all character conflicts were more or less resolved last year, they seem to be reestablishing them to keep interaction from becoming stagnant. So almost everyone is either regressing or acting out of character. In ways it's almost like book one never happened.

I would have preferred if they tried to go in a new direction instead of rehashing old ground, but as this is a children's show, I try to be realistic in my expectations.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Eh, if the shoe is on the other foot, then why not take a walk in it? This is one of the few times where Bolin can stand up to his brother, and I don't see why he shouldn't take it. Besides, Bolin is an athlete and Mako is the dectective. There isn't much more Bolin could've added. They are on a boat, and Bolin can't metal bend, as far as we have seen so far.

As I wrote before, because Bolin knows there's more at stake than helping Mako. At a bare minimum he is aware of Asami's financial troubles, and is her friend. I can't speak for anyone else, but if a friend needed my help in a serious situation I'd want to be there for them. Being all, naw, I'm staying home to lounge around 'cause the guy who asked blew me off earlier is pretty damned selfish IMO.

Asami can't bend anything either, so by that logic she should have left it all to Mako. It's true Bolin couldn't have contributed much more than another pair of eyes, but the idea was to gather information. They had no valuable cargo on board to protect, so in a worst case scenario they would flee.

It's good that Bolin stood up for himself, but I don't think the two situations are comparable. He could have chosen a better time to squabble with Mako.

Modifié par Seagloom, 13 octobre 2013 - 11:36 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

Gravisanimi wrote...

I blame the internet for telling me to watch TV shows, knowing full well I will enjoy them.

Those bastards!

[OdanUrr]

Seagloom wrote...

As I wrote before, because Bolin knows there's more at stake than helping Mako.

But does he? Mako didn't bother to explain the situation much. I'm sure if he had explained they were trying to help Asami Bolin would've been onboard.

[Seagloom]

You could be right since I only saw it on Friday and haven't rewatched since. My memory could be foggy. I'll have to see it again to make sure he wasn't being Nukterrible.

I just got really annoyed with Bolin in that scene. He came off as seriously douchey. And I'm not even a Mako fan.

Modifié par Seagloom, 13 octobre 2013 - 02:43 .

[Lenimph]

The excuse that "this is just a kids show" doesn't fly with me at all given how good ATLA was.
I find how almost all of the series characters are devolving with the exception of Mako (because he's a creator's pet) extremely lazy and insulting to the fan audience of which the creators very much know at this point are not just children. Especially towards adults like me who were children/teens when the first series aired and want to enjoy Korra like we did ATLA but this second season isn't even close.

I'm sticking in for the Tenzin & Family arc and I heard that Azula might make an appearance but I can't say I have really enjoyed more then I've disliked.

Modifié par Lenimph, 13 octobre 2013 - 04:04 .

[Seagloom]

It flies with me because it's factually correct. The program may have a broader appeal, but it doesn't change the fact it's a cartoon made for a network that caters to children and younger teens. AtLA was a great show. I loved it to bits. However, it was definitely flawed. If I wanted to be critical I could point out several things they did wrong easily; and some of those were definitely a result of it being a kid's show. The number of pointless filler episodes. The slipshod way certain relationships were handled. Jet's "death". A deus ex machina cop-out of a finale; and so on.

I essentially have to remind myself these are kids shows at their core. If I judge AtLA and LoK by the same standards I do most movies and television, I'd be forced to tear them to shreds. If it seems like I've been critical so far, everyone would be amazed at how brutal I can get when my expectations are greater.

In any case, I really want to keep liking this show so for now I'm sticking with it. I think I'll watch it all the way to end; always hoping it'll get better with the next episode. That maybe some future event will tie everything together in a way that's logical and satisfying. It's a testament to how much I enjoy this universe that I don't want to throw in the towel. Whereas I gave up on GoT midway through season two.

Anyway, kids show or not, LoK book two has very inconsistent and problematic characterization. It is disappointing to see they apparently haven't learned much from their mistakes with AtLA or book one of LoK.

Mako being a creator's pet explains a lot if it's true. He was such a dullard before. Now he's like, a dullard with a brain. XD Or maybe it's just everyone else acting foolishly--including Lin. -.- I don't pay attention to behind-the-scenes stuff, news, or the fandom. I pretty much watch the show and move on.

Tenzin is the only character they seem to be handling very well. He is actually learning and growing as a person through his experiences with family in a way that's logical, fluid, and entertaining. It's kinda amazing. Almost as if those moments were written by an entirely different writing staff.

Modifié par Seagloom, 13 octobre 2013 - 04:35 .

[Lenimph]

Seagloom wrote...


Mako being a creator's pet explains a lot if it's true. He was such a dullard before. Now he's like, a dullard with a brain. XD Or maybe it's just everyone else acting foolishly--including Lin. -.- I don't pay attention to behind-the-scenes stuff, news, or the fandom. I pretty much watch the show and move on.

The creators already admitted to the Mako love triangle being based on their own previous experiences supposedly in behind the scenes stuff so that shows to me they already have a personal connection to him in that respect. But it's the fact that he rarely ever gets punished for mistakes or being a giant douche nozzle proves it to me.   I mean seriously, he doesn't even get punished for being a d*ck to Korra because as soon as he tells Asami he broke up with her it's all kissy kissy with miss perfect who just lost all of her stuff thanks to him, playing right into Varric's hands.  Seriously we have these two strong female leads who pratically bend over backwards for this douche and just totally seem to forget how big of a douche he freaking is I just ... uhhhhhhhhg.  

They have to dumb down everyone around him, so Mako can "properly shine" as the most intelligent character while everyone else is simply too incompetent to carry on the plot as well as the creator's pet he is. 

Modifié par Lenimph, 13 octobre 2013 - 06:08 .

[Lenimph]

Also Bolin was really out of character. While I enjoyed him telling off Mako for once, what was with him totally not respecting Ginger's boundaries?

:S I really hated that last episode you gais.