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#1576
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OdanUrr wrote...

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So I was right?


It could be. But then again it could also be an island.:P


I am with the "too much focus" because it ends with that island middle of the screen and look at the canopy of trees and the shape.

Its more speculation and I'm not saying it will have any role but more of just a nod to the Lion Turtles. Especially with the revalations that came out in the episodes.

ANd I like the placement of these episodes. I don't think they would have the same impact if it was sooner.  The first episodes the are the bait and this was the hook.

I don't follow it all that much so to my surprise to get back from work and go "really a hour long block?" My Friday night is done.

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I'm still going -

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Seriously, I think these two episodes are my favourite out of everything so far, even ATLA.

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It's a bit frustrating that we never got back to Jinora's vision.

By the by, Korra's entering a two-week hiatus. I don't understand why so many series are doing this.<_<

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This statue makes more sense now, doesn't it?

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Neat video:



And Stephen Stanton was amazing in that last scene with Raava.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 20 octobre 2013 - 01:58 .


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OdanUrr wrote...

It's a bit frustrating that we never got back to Jinora's vision.

By the by, Korra's entering a two-week hiatus. I don't understand why so many series are doing this.<_<

Wha?! :o

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Lord Aesir wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

It's a bit frustrating that we never got back to Jinora's vision.

By the by, Korra's entering a two-week hiatus. I don't understand why so many series are doing this.<_<

Wha?! :o


I'm sorry, I think it's only next week that there isn't an episode. Still too long.

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OdanUrr wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

It's a bit frustrating that we never got back to Jinora's vision.

By the by, Korra's entering a two-week hiatus. I don't understand why so many series are doing this.<_<

Wha?! :o


I'm sorry, I think it's only next week that there isn't an episode. Still too long.

Right after introducing the primary conflict too :crying:

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Lord Aesir wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

It's a bit frustrating that we never got back to Jinora's vision.

By the by, Korra's entering a two-week hiatus. I don't understand why so many series are doing this.<_<

Wha?! :o


I'm sorry, I think it's only next week that there isn't an episode. Still too long.

Right after introducing the primary conflict too :crying:


We have six more episode to wrap up the mess of the first half.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 20 octobre 2013 - 03:49 .


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You know, having rewatched the first four episodes of Season 2, it actually feels much more enjoyable this time through.

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We did get two episodes on one night. I'd say that makes up for skipping a week. Going on a brief hiatus is typical for pretty much any show that isn't on a premium cable channel. Book one did the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they skipped another week before the finale.

Modifié par Seagloom, 20 octobre 2013 - 11:02 .


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Seagloom wrote...

We did get two episodes on one night. I'd say that makes up for skipping a week. Going on a brief hiatus is typical for pretty much any show that isn't on a premium cable channel. Book one did the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they skipped another week before the finale.

True, but these were the first episodes that actually managed to make me interested in the conflict.

Anyway, I am wondering how the next two books are going to measure up to the sheer epicness of this conflict.

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 20 octobre 2013 - 11:04 .


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Oh how this series blows. Plot holes anyone? Dragons taught fire bending, the moles from book 2 taught Earth bending, the sky Bison I believe showed humans air bending, while as far as I remember it was the ocean spirits? The tide? Something along that line that showed humans water bending. Oh but wait, it was the lions! It was already established how bending was capable in humans, this is just lazy. This is a cop out, and it shows how lazy they are. Boring characters, stupid focus on love triangle, out of place futuristic setting. This series is far from amazing. If The Last Air Bender never existed and this came out? Sure it might be alright, but we have a set standard as to what is good, and this isn't.

I won't even start about Korra losing her memory and somehow visions of a long dead Avatar brings everything back. Oh that's right I'm the Avatar, I guess my name, why I'm here, what I'm doing, and all my memories get thrown in with that pile of things to remember after a seemingly pointless flash back.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Oh how this series blows. Plot holes anyone? Dragons taught fire bending, the moles from book 2 taught Earth bending, the sky Bison I believe showed humans air bending, while as far as I remember it was the ocean spirits? The tide? Something along that line that showed humans water bending. Oh but wait, it was the lions! It was already established how bending was capable in humans, this is just lazy.


Well, to be honest, the lions only gave humans the elements but if you pay attention it is the dragon that teaches Wan how to properly wield fire.

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The moon was the original waterbender. I wondered about that same thing in an earlier post. That said, I do not see it as a retcon necessarily. More of a point of fact they neglected to elaborate on. I don't think it was ever explicitly stated humans were granted bending by the moon spirit and those animals; so much as they had bending before, or were naturally born with it, and humans could learn from them. It's too ambiguous to call, sadly.

Korra losing her memory was likely brought on by her being swallowed by that dark spirit rather than an actual injury. I can believe Korra regaining her memory because reasons, given she lost it because reasons. >.< Like, since Vaatu corrupted the spirit that swallowed Korra, maybe tapping into those memories came with a jolt from Raava to cure Korra. Either way it's not something that needs much explanation in my opinion. It does however, come off as leapfrogging over character growth for the sake of expediency. If Korra's behavior does a 180 it's going to seem rushed. Given her gung-ho flight to the south pole, I don't think it has; but we'll see.

As far as LoK's quality in general, I'm on the fence about it. I don't think all the characters are boring. I liked Korra well enough in book one when her thuggish side was less pronounced. Actually, I liked everyone in book one with the exception of Mako. I also thought Amon and Tarrlok were interesting villains. Certainly more so than 'Imma burn everything!' Ozai. At least Amon's cause had a logical purpose behind it.

Book two is when LoK began really going bad, and truthfully I don't expect the next handful of episodes to redeem this season. "Beginnings" was awesome and all, but it doesn't do anything to address all the shoddy characterization in previous episodes. However, there are two books to go so the jury's still out on whether LoK will ultimately match up to AtLA. AtLA definitely had its share of plotholes and stunted characterization. I think too many folks put it on a pedestal while ignoring its flaws. It's kinda the same deal with "Beginnings" part 1&2. There are definitely flaws if you want to look for them. Most folks, myself included, are choosing to let them slide because they were entertained. I have a feeling that when LoK ends and I compare it to AtLA with a critical eye, I'm going to deem it was at least on par.

I honestly find the setting interesting and refreshing. AtLA's was unique too far as western cartoons go, but a steampunkish setting? That's somewhat rare not only in animation, but outside of books and comics, period. I can count the number of movies in the last decade with elements of steampunk on one hand.

Modifié par Seagloom, 20 octobre 2013 - 01:58 .


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Seagloom wrote...

AtLA definitely had its share of plotholes and stunted characterization. I think too many folks put it on a pedestal while ignoring its flaws.


Unfortunately, Book Three was mired by them and most of them had to do with the Avatar State and the series finale. E.g.: hitting a rock and entering the Avatar State? Give me a break.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 20 octobre 2013 - 01:42 .


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I honestly find the setting interesting and refreshing. AtLA's was unique too far as western cartoons go, but a steampunkish setting? That's somewhat rare not only in animation, but outside of books and comics, period. I can count the number of movies in the last decade with elements of steampunk on one hand.


Not just a steampunk but an ASIAN steampunk fantasy set in the   industrial revolution period. 

You do NOT see that in ANY other media, not in video games, not in movies, not in books, not in comics -- not in Western OR Asian media.  I watch Asian movies and shows.  I  read Asian novels.  So I know The Legend of Korra has a one-of-a-kind unique setting that has never ever been done before. 

Modifié par KT Chong, 20 octobre 2013 - 02:17 .


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Seagloom wrote...

The moon was the original waterbender. I wondered about that same thing in an earlier post. That said, I do not see it as a retcon necessarily. More of a point of fact they neglected to elaborate on. I don't think it was ever explicitly stated humans were granted bending by the moon spirit and those animals; so much as they had bending before, or were naturally born with it, and humans could learn from them. It's too ambiguous to call, sadly.


I don't really see this as a huge problem either.

Firstly, because it's an old legend/story, which could've been completely wrong. We have Greek myths telling us how we received certain gifts, which ultimately are a bunch of crap. Secondly, because Beginnings does (sort of) reconcile some of the problems by showing both how Wan received his bending and that he did in fact learn from the dragons. It could be acceptable to say that learning from the different animals allowed humans to refine their respective bending abilities.

Modifié par Il Divo, 20 octobre 2013 - 04:48 .


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As I wrote before -

In my mind, you have to be "born with the essence" of a specific bending style, but unless you learn it from a teacher or in Toph's case one of it's 'Original Sources' - (Badger, Moon, etc) - nothing would of happened and now that we have people who have learned, we can know learn from the teachers themselves- it's basically passed on. The original essence came from Lion Turtles and it goes on from there.

That is how I view it.

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J. Reezy wrote...

Oh how this series blows. Plot holes anyone? Dragons taught fire bending, the moles from book 2 taught Earth bending, the sky Bison I believe showed humans air bending, while as far as I remember it was the ocean spirits? The tide? Something along that line that showed humans water bending. Oh but wait, it was the lions! It was already established how bending was capable in humans, this is just lazy. This is a cop out, and it shows how lazy they are. Boring characters, stupid focus on love triangle, out of place futuristic setting. This series is far from amazing. If The Last Air Bender never existed and this came out? Sure it might be alright, but we have a set standard as to what is good, and this isn't.

I won't even start about Korra losing her memory and somehow visions of a long dead Avatar brings everything back. Oh that's right I'm the Avatar, I guess my name, why I'm here, what I'm doing, and all my memories get thrown in with that pile of things to remember after a seemingly pointless flash back.

Dude, this happened ten thousand years ago. Events turn to egends turn to myths. It's that simple. Humankind forgot how they got their bending and so just made **** up. It's that simple.

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An avatar deadline. Who saw that coming?!

Either way, this is shaping up to be an epic season 2.

(hopefully with no love triangles.)

(at ALL)

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I'm still going -

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Seriously, I think these two episodes are my favourite out of everything so far, even ATLA.


I could not agree more. These were two great episodes and really reminded me why I love this series. 

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J. Reezy wrote...

Oh how this series blows. Plot holes anyone? Dragons taught fire bending, the moles from book 2 taught Earth bending, the sky Bison I believe showed humans air bending, while as far as I remember it was the ocean spirits? The tide? Something along that line that showed humans water bending. Oh but wait, it was the lions! It was already established how bending was capable in humans, this is just lazy. This is a cop out, and it shows how lazy they are. Boring characters, stupid focus on love triangle, out of place futuristic setting. This series is far from amazing. If The Last Air Bender never existed and this came out? Sure it might be alright, but we have a set standard as to what is good, and this isn't.

I won't even start about Korra losing her memory and somehow visions of a long dead Avatar brings everything back. Oh that's right I'm the Avatar, I guess my name, why I'm here, what I'm doing, and all my memories get thrown in with that pile of things to remember after a seemingly pointless flash back.

Dude, this happened ten thousand years ago. Events turn to egends turn to myths. It's that simple. Humankind forgot how they got their bending and so just made **** up. It's that simple.

Interesting...

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Since Glenn voiced the First Avatar, can we now expect zombies to be introduced in the series?

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Since Glenn voiced the First Avatar, can we now expect zombies to be introduced in the series?

Zombie benders for Book 3. Semi-confirmed rumor.