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[Divine Justinia V]

Not for long. Agni Killed

 

Please don't.

[OdanUrr]

Now's probably a good time as any to watch Book Two again.

[SlottsMachine]

Now's probably a good time as any to watch Book Two again.

 

No don't! Save yourself!

[AresKeith]

Now's probably a good time as any to watch Book Two again.

 

Na, I'm good

[OdanUrr]

No don't! Save yourself!

 

Ah, but I have the power of the fast forward!

[SlottsMachine]

Ah, but I have the power of the fast forward!

 

[OdanUrr]

So, with Book Three releasing next week I decided to compile a short list of the things I feel the next season should address (in no particular order). Here goes nothing...
 

 
1) The Equalist Movement. Like it or not, Amon represented a group of like-minded, non-bending, individuals who felt that benders wielded too much power and often irresponsibly. To make matters worse, the one person that should have looked out for them, the Avatar, proved ultimately ineffectual to protect them as we see in episode 108 ("When Extremes Meet"). As we were able to see in the last episodes of Book One, Amon was able to marshal hundreds, if not thousands, of supporters. While he must've lost supporters once exposed by Korra, the sentiment undoubtedly remains. If anything, Tarrlok's and Amon's betrayals can be seen as further evidence of the dangers posed by benders. How come then that we don't see splinter groups forming in Book Two or more people advocating for the removal of benders from Republic City or similar? Are there no other ripples beyond electing a President?
 
Possible answer: It is highly unlikely Amon was the first to come up with a plan to tackle the bender vs. non-bender problem. In fact, it seems likely that some group/s could have formed during and/or after the events of ATLA. After all, it was a time were non-benders were subjected to the whims of the Fire Nation (and the other nations too to a lesser extent) and the Avatar was nowhere to be found for a century! While Avatar Aang did, ultimately, put an end to Fire Lord Ozai's plans it may have been too little too late. A secret cabal could have formed to fulfill the Avatar's purpose and bring balance. It is possible that said cabal was operating during Amon's uprising and chose to monitor the situation rather than act. When Amon was exposed they decided to intervene and "keep things quiet," for lack of a better term, until they deemed it wise to act. Perhaps Book Three will bring them to the light?

What I want to see: Flashbacks of this secret cabal forming during Aang's time; what they were doing during Book One and Book Two and what they plan to do in Book Three.
 
 

 
2) Bending. Another one from Book One. How was Amon able to take away people's bending? And why isn't anyone interested in knowing?!?! Thanks to "Beginnings," we now know that it was the lion turtles who originally gave humans the ability to bend the elements. However, they only shared this power for a short time so that the humans could protect themselves during their expeditions through the wilderness. Once the humans returned to the lion turtle cities their protectors would take away their bending. Wan changed all that and inspired others to follow his example and settle elsewhere. Once that happened, people began to keep the power to bend the elements which was eventually passed down (genetically?) to the following generations. The fact still remains that, at this point in time, only the lion turtles had the ability to take away someone else's bending. In ATLA, one of them shares their secret with Aang and suggests it has something to do with a new form of bending called "energybending."
 

"In the era before the Avatar, we bent not the elements, but the energy within ourselves. To bend another's energy, your own spirit must be unbendable, or you will be corrupted and destroyed."

Is Amon energybending then? Has he somehow learnt the secret of the lion turtles? The lion turtle itself said they could do this before the Avatar so, technically, anyone who knew enough about energybending could do it.

Possible answer: I personally don't think Amon was energybending when he took away people's bending but rather using a technique similar to chi-blocking that prevented people from easily "accessing," for lack of a better word, their bending. It is possible that bloodbending gave him the edge he required to achieve this by disturbing the natural flow of energy within a person's body. This doesn't take away from the fact that nobody, neither Korra, Tenzin or anyone else, seemed remotely interested in finding out how exactly Amon was able to achieve this and that is inexcusable.

What I want to see:

• Explain how Amon was able to take away people's bending;
• Focus a heck of a lot more on what energybending is and how it works. We saw Korra do what was probably energybending at the end of Book One and Two. Logic suggests she would be interested in finding out more about it. Just find a lion turtle and get it talking;
• I would very much like to know if Korra restored everyone's bending at the end of Book One or not and the repercussions of doing so.

 

 

 
3) The Avatar Cycle. At the end of Book Two, when Kaiju Unalaq-Vaatu beats the living crap out of Korra-Raava it's pretty much clear that she's lost her connection with her past lives. I ask you, what is the POINT of this? Yes, we know you pulled a deus ex machina at the end of Book One giving Korra back her powers when you could have easily left it at that as a fantastic starting point for Book Two. But you can't go back and change it no matter how much you desire it and trying to do this here isn't the same. Why? Well, simply because Korra isn't what you would call a "spiritual" Avatar. She has only connected twice with her past lives. Once in Book One when Aang was trying to warn her about bloodbending (and Korra had more than a bit of trouble making that connection) and then again in Book Two when she had amnesia and was put in a sort of comma. As you can see, Korra isn't particularly adept at this stuff. If instead Korra had been using her past lives as a crutch throughout the series then one could argue that, yes, severing that connection with her past lives would put her in a tight, and interesting, spot. However, this isn't the case and doing so can only hamstring the narrative possibilities of having Korra interact with her past lives.
 
What I want to see: Fix this.
 
 

4) The Bridge Between Worlds. At the end of Book Two, Korra decides that it is time for CHANGE (yes, in capital letters and, incidentally, the title of Book Three). No longer will the portals remain closed; now humans and spirits will be free to travel from one realm to the other.
 

My question is the following, how did Korra arrive at this conclusion? Especially after what Iroh tells her in the spirit world:
 

"In the Spirit World, your emotions become your reality- especially for the Avatar, because you are the bridge between the two worlds. You must try to stay positive."

 
While it's true Iroh doesn't mention how human emotions may affect spirits in the human world, we already had a glimpse of it in the episode "Beginnings" when the new firebenders end up fighting some enraged spirits and get ultimately wiped out despite Wan's attempts to defuse the situation. In fact, Wan closed the portals in the first place to stop the fighting between spirits and humans only for humans to start fighting against each other. So what has Korra achieved that makes this the right time to open the portals again? Have humans stopped fighting each other? Have they learned to respect the spirits? The answer is no in both counts and in the latter, well, I'm not sure a lot of people believed spirits even existed until Korra said she was leaving the portals open. Korra herself knew little of spirits until Unalaq showed up.

 

What I want to see: I simply want Korra to explain why she decided to leave the portals open given that all the evidence would suggest closing them to be the far better idea.

 

 

That's my list for now. I'll edit it if something else occurs to me.

[Heimdall]

@OdanUrr

I sort of assumed Amon's ability to take away bending was basically just using blood bending to make the effects of chi blocking permanent.

[OdanUrr]

@OdanUrr

I sort of assumed Amon's ability to take away bending was basically just using blood bending to make the effects of chi blocking permanent.

 

So did I but it's not explained and it really should be.

[Khayness]

As for resetting the Avatar cycle, I can only guess they wanted to take away the Avatar state to preserve some balance in the narrative department. Although Korra sucks in Avatar state anyways, so this was a bit drastical. They could have hammered the fact that she's bad with spiritual matters, explaining why she isn't a one man army in Avatar state. In ATLA they crippled Aang with good reasons to stop him from curbstomping everyone too.

 

I don't know. The writing team is either going to pull off some amazing stuff with the changes, or they are just plain stupid and don't hold their own lore in high regard.

 

I'm rewatching the 2nd season atm with a friend of mine who haven't seen it yet, and oh boy, is Korra dumb. He even said she's like a side character on her own show, and I have to agree with him. Since I know how they wasted all that Light vs. Dark Avatar stuff in the end, I didn't even like the two parter origin story this time.

 

So my hopes are still not up.

[OdanUrr]

Just found this and thought I'd share:

 

[SlottsMachine]

 

While it's true Iroh doesn't mention how human emotions may affect spirits in the human world, we already had a glimpse of it in the episode "Beginnings" when the new firebenders end up fighting some enraged spirits and get ultimately wiped out despite Wan's attempts to defuse the situation. In fact, Wan closed the portals in the first place to stop the fighting between spirits and humans only for humans to start fighting against each other. So what has Korra achieved that makes this the right time to open the portals again? Have humans stopped fighting each other? Have they learned to respect the spirits? The answer is no in both counts and in the latter, well, I'm not sure a lot of people believed spirits even existed until Korra said she was leaving the portals open. Korra herself knew little of spirits until Unalaq showed up.

 

 

Yeah, pretty much. That's our Korra though. 

[Dominus]

As far as Amon, I'm curious how they'd intend to tie answering a question like that into Book 3. Perhaps someone with similar abilities making an appearance?

Appreciate the food for thought, Odan.

[Fast Jimmy]

I think the Past Lives was done more for the series to stand on its own rather than anything else.

In ALTA, we knew Aang and his friends and the conflicts in their world. The past lives had a passing source of interest, but ultiamtely we cared about what happened to Aang.

Now, in Korra, the past lives are used mostly as a means to flashback and show us what happens with Aang after the end of the first series. It basically was a method to keep telling stories tied to ATLA, rather than enhance the current story of Korra. Severing that link does more for pushing the show Korra to stand on its own two feet, rather than to somehow nerf Korra's power.

After all, Korra can still go into the Avatar state and use Ravaa's power. Whether or not it will be as powerful or as knowledgeable without the past lives isn't known now, but she definitely still has the ability to have her eyes glow and use powerful bending while doing so.

[Chewin]

Long time Avatar: The Last Airbender fan, which I truly love, but have never bothered with Legend of Korra before. But now with summer here I have spare time on my hands, been thinking of giving it a go. Will be interesting to see how it compares to the previous series.

[Il Divo]

 

My question is the following, how did Korra arrive at this conclusion? Especially after what Iroh tells her in the spirit world:
 

 
While it's true Iroh doesn't mention how human emotions may affect spirits in the human world, we already had a glimpse of it in the episode "Beginnings" when the new firebenders end up fighting some enraged spirits and get ultimately wiped out despite Wan's attempts to defuse the situation. In fact, Wan closed the portals in the first place to stop the fighting between spirits and humans only for humans to start fighting against each other. So what has Korra achieved that makes this the right time to open the portals again? Have humans stopped fighting each other? Have they learned to respect the spirits? The answer is no in both counts and in the latter, well, I'm not sure a lot of people believed spirits even existed until Korra said she was leaving the portals open. Korra herself knew little of spirits until Unalaq showed up.

 

What I want to see: I simply want Korra to explain why she decided to leave the portals open given that all the evidence would suggest closing them to be the far better idea.

 

 

That's my list for now. I'll edit it if something else occurs to me.

 

Personally, I think the answer to a question like that would be pretty straight forward; Korra didn't see it as her (or the Avatar's) place to make that call. The conflict between Spirit and Physical Planes can be looked at in a similar manner to the conflict which often exists between the Four Nations. And from Wan's time to our own we've seen that humans have been capable of great evil against one another. But at no point has the solution to that been to build a giant wall around the Fire Nation or something similar. 

 

In a similar way, as the Avatar, Korra represents both the Spiritual and Physical Worlds, so more likely she sees it as her duty maintain peace between the two, but not to keep them locked away from each other. 

[OdanUrr]

Personally, I think the answer to a question like that would be pretty straight forward; Korra didn't see it as her (or the Avatar's) place to make that call. The conflict between Spirit and Physical Planes can be looked at in a similar manner to the conflict which often exists between the Four Nations. And from Wan's time to our own we've seen that humans have been capable of great evil against one another. But at no point has the solution to that been to build a giant wall around the Fire Nation or something similar. 
 
In a similar way, as the Avatar, Korra represents both the Spiritual and Physical Worlds, so more likely she sees it as her duty maintain peace between the two, but not to keep them locked away from each other.

I could see Korra making that case. Hope she does so in Book Three.

[Khayness]

Long time Avatar: The Last Airbender fan, which I truly love, but have never bothered with Legend of Korra before. But now with summer here I have spare time on my hands, been thinking of giving it a go. Will be interesting to see how it compares to the previous series.

 

The constructed world is still one of the best, although with a light steampunk touch. It got a different feel than ATLA, but It's good enough to make me forget about the teen angst with love triangles and daddy issues.

 

but she definitely still has the ability to have her eyes glow and use powerful bending while doing so.

 

Like air scootering.

[OdanUrr]

More Korra awesomeness!

‘Legend of Korra’ Season 3 – First 5 Minutes Released
 

 

Don't worry, Team Avatar, it can't be worse than Kaiju Unalaq.

[ruggly]

I thought season 2 was alright, looking forward to season 3 though.

[SlottsMachine]

I thought season 2 was alright, looking forward to season 3 though.

 

Was it a case of....

 

[ruggly]

Was it a case of....

[CronoDragoon]

Platinum Games is making a Korra game set between S2 and 3, and written by Tim Hendrick.

 

Finished Season 2 last week: Disappointing but enjoyable. The flashback to the first Avatar was an excellent double-ep that shows just how good the show is when you focus on the right stuff. Hopefully Season 3 is without the romance stuff.