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[Daeel]

1136342t54 wrote...


Considering that multiple times you keep saying its for teens can jack off now your saying that isn't part of your argument? Not surprised. You first said its purpose wasn't exactly porn when I called you on it now your changing your gears.

 Do you think everything I say is apart of my argument? I've said so much crap in this topic alone and you think alllllll of it relates to my argument? I know you can't be that stupid. I've already told you what my argument is. For some reasons you refuse to believe it and instead you rather make up my argument for me. Sorry, it does not work like that. 

I'm not changing my gears at all. There's an obvious difference between making a joke and making my argument. THis right here is me making an argument. Now when I called you stupid earlier, do you think that was apart of my argument or just a joke/insult? Don't play this game with me. I do think you're capable of distinguishing between the two. You obviously have no real counter-argument to my main points, so  of course you're using your time to make up points and then debunk them.   This tactic will not work with me, it might work on BSN. it wont work on me.

You claim that your main problem that it isn't done right in your opinion

I do not claim it. That IS my main problem with it. 

and that they should be taken out. The majority and Bioware disagrees with you for various reasons. At this point there is little to discuss because you only keep claiming its bad for exagerated reasons. I even stated various scenes that are short just shows some grinding but no humping and barely any nudity.

What majority? Have you not been reading the last few pages. I'm seeing a lot of supporters of my thread than people against it. Honestly, you should never trust the first few posters on BSN. They are almost always Biodrones that would rather cut off their thumbs than insult Bioware. 
Actually, why is that even a good argument? Even if it was the majority, that doesn't mean horse ******. It's still a crappy scene with stiff animations. 


I obviously have no problems with the scenes like Garrus' and Tali's.. I'm not sure why you keep bringing this up.

There is no point in a discussion if you just say the scenes are bad and not attempting to state ways that can make them better other than it needs to not be porn.

Don't tell me what the point of my own topic is. Leave that to me. 

No you said that your problem is that Bioware showed us everything without suggestive telling in the scenes which is blatantly false.  We were barely shown anything in ME1 and the most we saw in ME2 was Jacob shirtless.

Again with this trying to mutiliate my argument so you can debunk it. What style of arguing is this? Do you find this effective? Anyone with half a brain can see what you're doing.

So your whole reason for getting rid of the sex scenes are 2 bad ones? That is just stupid.

Get rid of those sex scenes.

Modifié par Daeel, 17 janvier 2012 - 11:18 .

[JBONE27]

Daeel wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

First rule of BSN: Don't ever speak anything but praise toward Bioware romances. There's even a subforum dedicated to them. You don't wanna mess with some of the fanatics around here, or you'll end up like a victim in Saw.

Though the OP is doing a poor job of trying to communicate his point, I agree that the "romance scenes" can be pretty awkward. There is room for improvement. Personally, I thought certain scenes, like Miranda's, looked like someone trying to reinact softcore basic cable scenes with action figures. I thought Garrus' was pulled off really well though.

I am presenting my position very well thank you very much. It's the audience...

[Grey34]

sorry not going to happen i'm afraid. not matter how much you go on about it

[Rockworm503]

JBONE27 wrote...

Daeel wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

First rule of BSN: Don't ever speak anything but praise toward Bioware romances. There's even a subforum dedicated to them. You don't wanna mess with some of the fanatics around here, or you'll end up like a victim in Saw.

Though the OP is doing a poor job of trying to communicate his point, I agree that the "romance scenes" can be pretty awkward. There is room for improvement. Personally, I thought certain scenes, like Miranda's, looked like someone trying to reinact softcore basic cable scenes with action figures. I thought Garrus' was pulled off really well though.

I am presenting my position very well thank you very much. It's the audience...

haha this is funny.  Does sound like her.

[JBONE27]

JonnyOwen wrote...

I thought Liara's romance scene in Mass Effect 2 LOTSB was quite good, it was rather classy if you ask me.

I'd go one step further and say that LotSB was amazing all the way through.  In fact the only complaint that I have about it is afterwards Liara doesn't join your squad.

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

rft wrote...

Daeel wrote...

No you misunderstand me. I do not want them to be more vulgar. I want them to either do fade to black. (GOD I MISS FADE TO BLACK) or get rid of them entirely.

Plus. I've been on the internet long enough to know where to get my own pornography. Thank you very much.

Life it seems, will fade away
Drifting further everyday
Getting lost within myself
Nothing matters no one else

Bonus points if you know where i got this from =P

I have lost the will to live
Simply nothing more to give
There is nothing more for me
Need the end to set me free...

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

The "Love Scenes" in ME1 were better, but ironically I laughed at the cheese in both XD

I thnk the love scenes would mean more if they weren't "flying off to die, better get lucky love scenes"

[Daeel]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

The "Love Scenes" in ME1 were better, but ironically I laughed at the cheese in both XD

I did as well. The worst part is I thought that it was "as cheesy as it gets" Then I played DA:O.. and.. ME2. It's funny how bad sex scenes can put thing in perspective.

I thnk the love scenes would mean more if they weren't "flying off to die, better get lucky love scenes"

I also miss the sexual puns. The "that's a whole new spin for on the floor give me forty". I mean that line was just gold.

In me2 it's all BAM BAM THANK YOU MA'AM.

or 
"OMG MY HELMET I CAN DIE OMMMMMMMG"

Modifié par Daeel, 18 janvier 2012 - 12:09 .

[1136342t54_]

Daeel wrote...

Do you think everything I say is apart of my argument? I've said so much crap in this topic alone and you think alllllll of it relates to my argument? I know you can't be that stupid. I've already told you what my argument is. For some reasons you refuse to believe it and instead you rather make up my argument for me. Sorry, it does not work like that. 

I'm not changing my gears at all. There's an obvious difference between making a joke and making my argument. THis right here is me making an argument. Now when I called you stupid earlier, do you think that was apart of my argument or just a joke/insult? Don't play this game with me. I do think you're capable of distinguishing between the two. You obviously have no real counter-argument to my main points, so  of course you're using your time to make up points and then debunk them.   This tactic will not work with me, it might work on BSN. it wont work on me.

So I am to assume most of the things you say in this thread is BS? Good to know.

What majority? Have you not been reading the last few pages. I'm seeing a lot of supporters of my thread than people against it. Honestly, you should never trust the first few posters on BSN. They are almost always Biodrones that would rather cut off their thumbs than insult Bioware. 

The argument that they are Biodrones is incredibly overused. If the majority really did want the scenes out of the game they would be gone.

Actually, why is that even a good argument? Even if it was the majority, that doesn't mean horse ******. It's still a crappy scene with stiff animations.

You want the scenes out of the game even though the majority disagrees with you. It matters because it won't be out of the game if the majority of people like them or just don't see them as something so bad they need to be taken out.

I obviously have no problems with the scenes like Garrus' and Tali's.. I'm not sure why you keep bringing this up.

Because you want all sex scenes out because of the 2 worst ones.

Don't tell me what the point of my own topic is. Leave that to me. 

I didn't say the point of the topic I said the discussion. There is no point in speaking about it since you don't care about actually providing anyway of improving the scenes other than just complaints.

Again with this trying to mutiliate my argument so you can debunk it. What style of arguing is this? Do you find this effective? Anyone with half a brain can see what you're doing.

I think Bioware needs to rely on suggestive telling for those scenes instead of showing us everything.

You said that unless this also isn't part of your argument. If not then I'm just going to assume nearly everything you say is just BS.

Get rid of those sex scenes.

So you've gone from getting rid of sex scenes in ME3 in general to just getting rid of some in ME2?

[Daeel]

1136342t54 wrote...


So I am to assume most of the things you say in this thread is BS? Good to know.

Interesting conclusion. I guess that part in your brain that does all the logical thinking has been severly damage. That is the only way I can explain your posts.

The argument that they are Biodrones is incredibly overused. If the majority really did want the scenes out of the game they would be gone.

They'd be gone before they were even implemented? Are you insane?

You want the scenes out of the game even though the majority disagrees with you. It matters because it won't be out of the game if the majority of people like them or just don't see them as something so bad they need to be taken out. 

Really man? Really? I just told you why "the majority" isn't a good argument and you continue to rely on it? Without adding anything else to your argument? I think you can do better. Also, you seemed to just skim over the whole "they are not the majority part" I didn't say that they weren't the majority because they were biodrones.I said they weren't the majority if you are using my thread as an example.


Please stop misrepresting my argument. I'd like to participate in this debate, but if all I'm doing is restating my side then it isn't fun.

Because you want all sex scenes out because of the 2 worst ones.

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP BUTCHERING MY ARGUMENT PLEASE.

I didn't say the point of the topic I said the discussion. There is no point in speaking about it since you don't care about actually providing anyway of improving the scenes other than just complaints.

Well the point of the discussion then would be to complain. Where are we lacking "point"? It's 9 pages. A place to let out your frustrations has purpose. If you must know how I would fix me2 sex scenes. I'd simply suggest go back to me1 scenes for me3. Those were much better in my opinion.

So you've gone from getting rid of sex scenes in ME3 in general to just getting rid of some in ME2?

I've never been about getting rid of them. I want them to be changed or I want them gone.

Modifié par Daeel, 18 janvier 2012 - 12:47 .

[DxWill10]

Lambchopz wrote...



Maybe because you're not the only person on planet earth and what you are saying is an unpopular sentiment. Maybe, just maybe. It's much easier for the few people who don't like the romance scenes to skip or avoid them then for the massive amount of ME fans that do to not have the option to even have them at all.

You're just being irrational and narcisstic. Go back to your bridge.

Yep this is the issue. More people want romance scenes (tacky or not) than those who don't.  It's more efficient/profitable  to press the X button (or skip the romance ffs) than for bioware to deliberately remove a popular portion from the game at this point.  (considering the game releases in 5 and a half weeks or so

This isn't a hard concept to grasp, so I can't tell if you're inferior to reasoning or a troll.

Modifié par DxWill10, 18 janvier 2012 - 12:58 .

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Daeel wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

The "Love Scenes" in ME1 were better, but ironically I laughed at the cheese in both XD

I did as well. The worst part is I thought that it was "as cheesy as it gets" Then I played DA:O.. and.. ME2. It's funny how bad sex scenes can put thing in perspective.

I thnk the love scenes would mean more if they weren't "flying off to die, better get lucky love scenes"

I also miss the sexual puns. The "that's a whole new spin for on the floor give me forty". I mean that line was just gold.

In me2 it's all BAM BAM THANK YOU MA'AM.

or 
"OMG MY HELMET I CAN DIE OMMMMMMMG"

Pretty much agree with your first part wrt how seeing something worse can make something which was cheesy seem tolerable.

Your second part...what is that I don't even.

[Daeel]

Lambchopz wrote...


Maybe because you're not the only person on planet earth and what you are saying is an unpopular sentiment. Maybe, just maybe. It's much easier for the few people who don't like the romance scenes to skip or avoid them then for the massive amount of ME fans that do to not have the option to even have them at all.

You're just being irrational and narcisstic. Go back to your bridge.

BSN is a special type of place where arguments against bad execution is synonymous for trolling. It's not as "unpopular" as you think. Check the topic, many supporters. Hell more then people against. SO maybe we can retire this whole "DA MAJORITY" argument. it's gone stale. 

Irrational? Are you serious? How the HELL is it irrational to want something I DONT LIKE changed? Have you been on BSN for more than 3 minutes? Come on?  That is the mantra of the entire board. Don't call me narcisstic for simply asserting my OWN opinion.  

[Killitngrillit]

ME2's scenes are the "lets dry hump and promiscuously thrust and grab random parts of the others bodies like we are having a seizure". I thought ME1 were perfect: tastelfull, saw some skin, but nothing major.

[1136342t54_]

Daeel wrote...
Interesting conclusion. I guess that part in your brain that does all the logical thinking has been severly damage. That is the only way I can explain your posts.

Its funny how you go to insults so quickly. Nice to see you have been showing your true colors. In a previous post you stated that you said a bunch of crap and it isn't all part of your arguement which makes little sense. If you are including crap in your posts that can easily be misconstrued as part of a arguement then why do it? You would be needlessly confusing people

They'd be gone before they were even implemented? Are you insane?

Facepalm

ME 3 has been confirmed to have sex scenes. If they were actually this hated they would never even be in there.

Really man? Really? I just told you why "the majority" isn't a good argument and you continue to rely on it? Without adding anything else to your argument? I think you can do better. Also, you seemed to just skim over the whole "they are not the majority part" I didn't say that they weren't the majority because they were biodrones.I said they weren't the majority if you are using my thread as an example.

I was never using your thread as an example.

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP BUTCHERING MY ARGUMENT PLEASE.

I don't want them in Mass Effect 3

You went from that to 

I want them reworked, if they can't be redone properly, I want them removed.

Which is it? Even if it is the second argument then your at this point complaining about the 2 bad sex scenes and assuming that they will be just like that in ME3. 

Well the point of the discussion then would be to complain. Where are we lacking "point"? It's 9 pages. A place to let out your frustrations has purpose. If you must know how I would fix me2 sex scenes. I'd simply suggest go back to me1 scenes for me3. Those were much better in my opinion.

So this whole discussion is to complain? Doesn't make much sense to me but oh well. ME1 scenes were better in someway but lacked diversity. Some can be really physical while others don't.

I've never been about getting rid of them. I want them to be changed or I want them gone.

On the first page you said you simply wanted them gone.

Either way I'm done discussing this. You are acting as if I'm attacking you when I am just bringing up your past statements. You've blatantly just ignored the one I brought up in the last post, but whatever you already told me the point of this is to complain instead of actual constructive discussion about stating a way to change them (until I actually asked).

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 18 janvier 2012 - 02:25 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Daeel wrote...

Lambchopz wrote...


Maybe because you're not the only person on planet earth and what you are saying is an unpopular sentiment. Maybe, just maybe. It's much easier for the few people who don't like the romance scenes to skip or avoid them then for the massive amount of ME fans that do to not have the option to even have them at all.

You're just being irrational and narcisstic. Go back to your bridge.

BSN is a special type of place where arguments against bad execution is synonymous for trolling. It's not as "unpopular" as you think. Check the topic, many supporters. Hell more then people against. SO maybe we can retire this whole "DA MAJORITY" argument. it's gone stale. 

Irrational? Are you serious? How the HELL is it irrational to want something I DONT LIKE changed? Have you been on BSN for more than 3 minutes? Come on?  That is the mantra of the entire board. Don't call me narcisstic for simply asserting my OWN opinion.  

You're aware that BSN isn't the entire population of people who play ME, yes?

[Daeel]

1136342t54 wrote...

Its funny how you go to insults so quickly. Nice to see you have been showing your true colors. In a previous post you stated that you said a bunch of crap and it isn't all part of your arguement which makes little sense. If you are including crap in your posts that can easily be misconstrued as part of a arguement then why do it? You would be needlessly confusing people

So quickly? It didn't take longer than the first page for someone to yell "IM INSULTED". So don't fell all that honoured because apparently I've been insulting people a lot. Not that I know how. I'm a little miffed that you can basically miscategorize my argument for 4 pages and then I tell you you're stupid and I'm the one in the wrong. Either way, I'm over it. This is BSN. 

It can't easily be misconstrued. you my friend are the only one misconstruing my argument. I don't know why. Like i suspect, something in your brain is missing. It's quite obvious when i'm making a joke and when I'm making an argument.

ME 3 has been confirmed to have sex scenes. If they were actually this hated they would never even be in there.

We don't know what type of sex scenes, maybe Bioware took a page out of the me1 book and returned it to its original look.

I was never using your thread as an example.

You were just using general "up in the air" feeling. You believe that is better? Atleast you can bloody see my thread. Again,  I already debunked the majority argument anyways.

I don't want them in Mass Effect 3

You went from that to

You can't accuse me of changing my argument. Really the only thing you can say is it's an incomplete argument and then you pressed, so I built on it. I don't see this metamorphisis you keep stressing.

I want them reworked, if they can't be redone properly, I want them removed.

Which is it? Even if it is the second argument then your at this point complaining about the 2 bad sex scenes and assuming that they will be just like that in ME3.

I don't know what to say to this sentence. They are bad sex scenes... so something about Me3 and magic?
What? Where is the argument here.

So this whole discussion is to complain? Doesn't make much sense to me but oh well. ME1 scenes were better in someway but lacked diversity. Some can be really physical while others don't.

Sure why not. Complaining is good for you, every now and then. "lacked diversity"? You mean they didn't have liara grinding against Shepard's pelvic? I'm sorry, that sort of diversity I can do without.

On the first page you said you simply wanted them gone.

Either way I'm done discussing this. You are acting as if I'm attacking you when I am just bringing up your past statements. You've blatantly just ignored the one I brought up in the last post, but whatever you already told me the point of this is to complain instead of actual constructive discussion about stating a way to change them (until I actually asked).

I did no such thing. Stop making up my argument for me.

[AgitatedLemon]

Daeel said...

I did no such thing. Stop making up my argument for me.

I want them to either do fade to black. (GOD I MISS FADE TO BLACK) or get rid of them entirely.

[Daeel]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Daeel said...

I did no such thing. Stop making up my argument for me.

I want them to either do fade to black. (GOD I MISS FADE TO BLACK) or get rid of them entirely.

You realize your argument is void as soon as I said 'or' right?

[AgitatedLemon]

And you're aware that they DO fade to black, right?

[Daeel]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

And you're aware that they DO fade to black, right?

Surely you understand how you've just destroyed your own argument?

Modifié par Daeel, 18 janvier 2012 - 02:47 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Daeel wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

And you're aware that they DO fade to black, right?

Surely you understand how you've just destroyed your own argument?

I honestly have no way to respond to this.

Not because it counters anything I said (It doesn't), but because it doesn't counter anything I said.

[Daeel]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Daeel wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

And you're aware that they DO fade to black, right?

Surely you understand how you've just destroyed your own argument?

I honestly have no way to respond to this.

Not because it counters anything I said (It doesn't), but because it doesn't counter anything I said.

What is your problem? You're so hostile.