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[ArkkAngel007]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Adugan wrote...
Actually, you only need Origin to install ME3, play MP, patch and probably install DLCs. Other than that, it MUST be on your machine but does not have to be running. 

I'd imagine it works like Steam, in which it DOES have to be running.

Yes, it will still have to run, but it will not need to have an internet connection after installation unless you play the multiplayer (which probably isn't a big issue for most on here).

[Dragoonlordz]

MaaZeus wrote...

SimJoseph7 wrote...

This is from the Origin Faq regarding Privacy and Security in regards to Origin:
*snip*
So, what am I supposed to believe? The Faq? The EULA's? Will either of them change at any given time? It DOES look rather harmless IF IT IS TRUE. Or is it E.A. that could be the ones wanting all the data (even though Origin says it doesn't data mine)?

Thier Privacy Policy does not leave me a warm and fuzzy feeling though (tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBPRIVACY/US/en/PC/#section3).

Joseph

EA, if Origin is not spyware then fix the damn EULA already! Because of Origins spotty past you have been branded as Spyware, and brands are hard to remove as you may know. And as long as that obvious "right for datamining" part of EULA stands, despite what the program actually does at the moment, you just keep on having hard time to convince people.

It is worth noting that while Origin links to that FAQ, also listed in that FAQ is non Origin based terms for example it also covers Mobile and other Services not including Origin.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 janvier 2012 - 10:56 .

[Storm Farron]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

anzolino wrote...
I thought you could uninstall it after activation?

Absolutely no way in h*ll they'd let you do that.

do you hear that? my sister just canceled her pre-order

[Sylvianus]

abaris wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

But for those who have also an xbox and could play on it, They hurt only themself, by not buying mass effect in my opinion. That isn't only one game, ( without Origin ) that will hurt their principle if they buy it. Origin isn't on their computer and after they could totally stop buying EA games.

You don't get it.

You have to install and use Origin to play ME3. Meaning, you have to agree to their EULA, meaning they're collecting certain data about you, meaning, you enter their database and your data helps building a marketing profile about you.

That is a big fat no go for me. Noone collects data about me if I can help it. No clients for me, no toolbars for me, no apps for me, no itunes for me.

No, I understood well. I just said, that those who have also an xbox or a PS3, if they don't want Origin on their computer, ( privacy ) can decide to play on console if they can. So, no Origin, and they can play the game they waited for months.

Their principles will not be hit if they decide to buy only one game on console, since Origins is still not on their computer.

Mass effect won't be the only game that will be concerned, it isn't only about Mass effect, but EA politics, It could take time. ( I assume that Mass effect 3 will be with origin, that could change however )

Now I know that your situation is more difficult, and that the only solution is to refuse to buy the game, yes.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 16 janvier 2012 - 10:55 .

[Adugan]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Adugan wrote...

I think Chris said that it doesnt have to be running to play SP. For everything else, it will require it running. I bet thats why MP was added to ME3, so that Origin can run.

Are you talking about this?

Chris Priestly wrote...

2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?
Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

To me this looks a lot like he's talking about internet connection and missplaced "Origin."

"Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game." 

Playing SP only will probably require an install and verification. I think this implies that it doesnt need Origin after it is installed unless you want to play MP.

[BaronIveagh]

On reading Bioware's new Privacy Policy, I'm requesting that my account be deleted, as I do not agree to the terms of the revised policy,

[DiebytheSword]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
It needs Origin on constantly.

Where did it say this? It would really suck if that were the case, if only for MP, it wouldn't bother me since I would have no intention to play MP.

Never said this. But it follows natural thought, and you're not going to get an official answer anytime soon.

I have ME2 on Origin, I don't need to start Origin at all to play ME2, I can play right from the game's executable.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

^Fail troll still at it.

Come back when you produce histograms of their responses (accounting for frequency), complete with error analysis.

Pulling evidence out of your ass only amuses me by implying you read every comment and understood them enough to formulate their opinion on the matter.

TOO EASY!

Wow still acting like a child with name calling are you. I did read most comments and that is enough to get an opinion on it. I find it amusing that you wish to keep targetting myself and assume your name calling makes your points more valid. I guess you did not learn last time I put you in your place.

So angry, I'm only calling you what you are. Your post record is proof of that, or do I need to copy paste last time I "owned you". Also if we are to accept that you read all the posts on those threads and came out with fact, I'm going to say I spoke to everyone in the world and they agreed for the most part you are an uneducated moron with no concept of statistics (now I insulted you, and its 100% valid if we subscribe to your notion of statistics). 

Once again, TOO EASY.

I gave you a warning to start acting like an adult and be mature instead of throwing around names and being abusive in your replies, you did not listen therefore you have been reported. If you cannot speak to people in a civil manner even if hold a different opinion then do not be surprised by results of your actions.

Cry a foul when you are proved wrong, how typical, if anyone had any doubt about my superiority, this would be it. Also I may point out that my ability to comprehend concepts beyond your grasp is beyond something an immature (undeveloped) or non-adult individual could not do. I won't resort to your level of crying in defeat however, I'm a man, and an educated one at that.

*Smokes bubble pipe and shines monocle with silk cloth*

[Volus Warlord]

DiebytheSword wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
It needs Origin on constantly.

Where did it say this? It would really suck if that were the case, if only for MP, it wouldn't bother me since I would have no intention to play MP.

Never said this. But it follows natural thought, and you're not going to get an official answer anytime soon.

I have ME2 on Origin, I don't need to start Origin at all to play ME2, I can play right from the game's executable.

That's what you think...

[Fredvdp]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Adugan wrote...
Actually, you only need Origin to install ME3, play MP, patch and probably install DLCs. Other than that, it MUST be on your machine but does not have to be running. 

I'd imagine it works like Steam, in which it DOES have to be running.

Most Origin games only require the application for installation and allow you to boot the exe without launching Origin. ME3, like BF3, could be an exception though so maybe it's like Steam. After all, it seems EA is trying to copy them.

[Fredvdp]

Volus Warlord wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
It needs Origin on constantly.

Where did it say this? It would really suck if that were the case, if only for MP, it wouldn't bother me since I would have no intention to play MP.

Never said this. But it follows natural thought, and you're not going to get an official answer anytime soon.

I have ME2 on Origin, I don't need to start Origin at all to play ME2, I can play right from the game's executable.

That's what you think...

I bet he actually did it before, just like me. I tried it with Dragon Age which even refuses to launch through Origin for some reason. I have to use the exe and it doesn't launch the Origin application.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 16 janvier 2012 - 10:57 .

[hwf]

For EA the publisher this is a very smart move. It's exactly what Valve did to bump up their userbase of Steam.
Hopefully the sales won't get dented too much. That would be a shame for Bioware.

Question 1: Now that Origin gets pushed more, will we be able to purchase the DLCs for all Bioware games through that system?
Question 2: If so, will DLCs for Bioware products finally get proper and juicy discounts (coupled with the main game)?
Question 3: If #1 is so, will DLCs purchased through Origin be able to function on a Steam or Retail purchase of the relevant game?

[Illusive]

To those who have experience using Origin:

Does the offline mode work exactly like Steam? In Steam you can set it to be offline, and whenever you turn off/restart your computer, Steam will always start in offline mode unless you choose to turn on online mode.

Does Origin ever force itself (without user permission) from offline to online mode?

[anzolino]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
Absolutely no way in h*ll they'd let you do that.

Hmm. But there were several users who reported they uninstalled the client and the game would work. All fakes?

[Rudy Lis]

Burori wrote...

So please explain to me WHY you need to install Origin when buying a retail copy. I will have a CD KEY to authenticate its authenticity, WHY again do I need Origin?

Because they are huge international giant, they want to have their own digital distribution system.
Like cell-phone manufacturers, who use proprietary types of (re)charger jacks - complete lack of uniformity. Or that blue-ray/hd-dvd competition.

Kings19 wrote...

To those who have experience using Origin:

Does the offline mode work exactly like Steam? In Steam you can set it to be offline, and whenever you turn off/restart your computer, Steam will always start in offline mode unless you choose to turn on online mode.

Does Origin ever force itself (without user permission) from offline to online mode?

1. No, it doesn't. At least on my PC. It always going "online" whether your restart/on/waking up your PC. Or if it has crashed in previous run.
2. If above mentioned actions could be considered as "forcing" then answer is "yes".

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 16 janvier 2012 - 11:00 .

[abaris]

Sylvianus wrote...

Now I know that your situation is more difficult, and that the only solution is to refuse to buy the game, yes.

No, my situation isn't difficult at all. If some company introduces a policy I cannot agree with, they're not getting my money.

I'm not that desperate to play that game. I'm not that desperate to get any product with strings attached. So I wouldn't buy it for console if I had one. That's a matter of principles and as I said - money is the only language any company understands. Simply changing platforms only tells them they're still selling.

[Adugan]

anzolino wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
Absolutely no way in h*ll they'd let you do that.

Hmm. But there were several users who reported they uninstalled the client and the game would work. All fakes?

Orly? Link.

[Elazul2k]

Hallowed are the Ori!

[Dragoonlordz]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Cry a foul when you are proved wrong, how typical, if anyone had any doubt about my superiority, this would be it. Also I may point out that my ability to comprehend concepts beyond your grasp is beyond something an immature (undeveloped) or non-adult individual could not do. I won't resort to your level of crying in defeat however, I'm a man, and an educated one at that.

*Smokes bubble pipe and shines monocle with silk cloth*

Still waiting on you to prove me wrong, prove that I did not read most comments and did not get an overall opinion on those comments based on what I read. Prove that you have any evidence to refute what it is I said instead of using generic statements that do not prove anything.

You claim to be a man but act like a child, superior only in your imagination it would seem.

As previously mentioned you did not heed the warning I gave about your behavior and already have been reported for such so I will not be responding to you anymore simply because I will not drop to your level when you cannot refute what it is I have said and resort to generic statements without proof, name calling and immature behavior.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 janvier 2012 - 11:08 .

[Fredvdp]

Kings19 wrote...

Does Origin ever force itself (without user permission) from offline to online mode?

I just quit the application while in offline mode and it was back in online mode after I restarted it.

[ArkkAngel007]

hwf wrote...

For EA the publisher this is a very smart move. It's exactly what Valve did to bump up their userbase of Steam.
Hopefully the sales won't get dented too much. That would be a shame for Bioware.

Question 1: Now that Origin gets pushed more, will we be able to purchase the DLCs for all Bioware games through that system?
Question 2: If so, will DLCs for Bioware products finally get proper and juicy discounts (coupled with the main game)?
Question 3: If #1 is so, will DLCs purchased through Origin be able to function on a Steam or Retail purchase of the relevant game?

I feel so sorry for you and what you are about to experience in this thread.

As for Question #3, data is data.  If it works on Origin, it will work on Steam and vice versa if there is ever a version released on Steam.  (Sorry if I simplified it, but trying to keep things short, otherwise no one bothers).