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[anzolino]

Adugan wrote...
Orly? Link.

Oh dear, somewhere in this 220 pages thread... =o|

[Aaleel]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

2) Is constant Origin connection required or is it a single one off authentication when the game is first installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?
Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

Wll given my experience with Steam, I have a hard time believing that it won't automatically start when you start your game. Technically he says that, but it looks more like he's talking about internet access.

Guess we'll just have to see if it's clarified. Fat chance.

But the question says nothing about internet.  It asks specifically about constant Origin connection.

[ArkkAngel007]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

I have ME2 on Origin, I don't need to start Origin at all to play ME2, I can play right from the game's executable.

ME2 didn't require Origin. starting up Origin isn't written into the game's files. But it likely will be for ME3, like it is for Skyrim and Steam (for some incomprehensible reason).

Also, you sure? next time you start it us, click Ctrl+Alt+Del and check the TM for Origin. I wouldn't think it would start up, but it might.

DRM.  Plain and simple.  Aside from a few developers and publishers, most still don't get it that DRM does not work.

[Pixieking]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

I have ME2 on Origin, I don't need to start Origin at all to play ME2, I can play right from the game's executable.

ME2 didn't require Origin. starting up Origin isn't written into the game's files. But it likely will be for ME3, like it is for Skyrim and Steam (for some incomprehensible reason).

A better example is Battlefield 3, you know.

That requires Origin to be running in the background. In, fact, if you try to start it from the exe, it starts Origin, and then feeds you into Battlelog.

And, yes, that applies to the singleplayer campaign as well as the multiplayer.

[IliyaMoroumetz]

abaris wrote...

No, my situation isn't difficult at all. If some company introduces a policy I cannot agree with, they're not getting my money.

I'm not that desperate to play that game. I'm not that desperate to get any product with strings attached. So I wouldn't buy it for console if I had one. That's a matter of principles and as I said - money is the only language any company understands. Simply changing platforms only tells them they're still selling.

I'm in agreement with this.  Not only that.  I'm starting to look at small and more independant games that do not require such arbitrary demands of loyalty.

You see these guys?
http://www.puppygames.net/
 
These guys make good games.  They have four, small, fun games that sell individually at ten bucks each.  DRM free, connected to your email address, and yes, they're fun games!  And surprise, surprise, they're having sale where you can get three of those four games for only ten bucks!

This is what is going to save the industry from itself as the AAA publishers try to outspend each other and try to reenact the Space Race between the US and the USSR.

Modifié par IliyaMoroumetz, 16 janvier 2012 - 11:04 .

[Pupuppu]

One more question. As EA and Steam are working hard to fix a deal and of course they will find a solution, can people who buy the retail or digital download edition register their key on steam or would it be advisable for them to wait with their purchase?

[Deadstoned]

@Chris Priestly

Will Mass Effect 2 DLC be sold on Origin in the next few months?

Origin's not perfect, but for me its better than buying Bioware points. I'll give it that :-/

[DiebytheSword]

Emoking wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

I have ME2 on Origin, I don't need to start Origin at all to play ME2, I can play right from the game's executable.

ME2 didn't require Origin. starting up Origin isn't written into the game's files. But it likely will be for ME3, like it is for Skyrim and Steam (for some incomprehensible reason).

A better example is Battlefield 3, you know.

That requires Origin to be running in the background. In, fact, if you try to start it from the exe, it starts Origin, and then feeds you into Battlelog.

And, yes, that applies to the singleplayer campaign as well as the multiplayer.

We'll see in March.

[TheJiveDJ]

@DRUNK_CANADIAN

........you angry bro?

[abaris]

IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

This is what is going to save the industry from itself as the AAA publishers try to outspend each other and try to reenact the Space Race between the US and the USSR.

Even more so, since they're all losing quality along their way. It's what they call streamlining. In my opinion it's more about riding the donkey train.

[Pixieking]

Pupuppu wrote...

One more question. As EA and Steam are working hard to fix a deal and of course they will find a solution, can people who buy the retail or digital download edition register their key on steam or would it be advisable for them to wait with their purchase?

EA games won't be registerable on Steam. Better wait for it to come out on Steam if you really want it there.

[Pixieking]

DiebytheSword wrote...

Emoking wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

I have ME2 on Origin, I don't need to start Origin at all to play ME2, I can play right from the game's executable.

ME2 didn't require Origin. starting up Origin isn't written into the game's files. But it likely will be for ME3, like it is for Skyrim and Steam (for some incomprehensible reason).

A better example is Battlefield 3, you know.

That requires Origin to be running in the background. In, fact, if you try to start it from the exe, it starts Origin, and then feeds you into Battlelog.

And, yes, that applies to the singleplayer campaign as well as the multiplayer.

We'll see in March.

Oh, of course. It may be that it won't need it. I'm not saying it wil definitely be like BF3. Just that most people don't actually know you need Origin running during BF3 to play the single-player, and it is Origin, so it's a better example.

[Adugan]

TheJiveDJ wrote...

@DRUNK_CANADIAN

........you angry bro?

Stop.

[Sylvianus]

abaris wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Now I know that your situation is more difficult, and that the only solution is to refuse to buy the game, yes.

No, my situation isn't difficult at all. If some company introduces a policy I cannot agree with, they're not getting my money.

I'm not that desperate to play that game. I'm not that desperate to get any product with strings attached. So I wouldn't buy it for console if I had one. That's a matter of principles and as I said - money is the only language any company understands. Simply changing platforms only tells them they're still selling.

It's not one game that will change that. ( If Mass effect is finally with origin ) It would be naive to believe that.

And I disagree. The important thing ( according to what I read ) is to protect its privacy. Then you can decide to take legal action against EA, do politics, do not buy any more EA games, but that is another thing .

But the principles are still respected, if origin is still not installed.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 16 janvier 2012 - 11:08 .

[slimgrin]

TheJiveDJ wrote...

@DRUNK_CANADIAN

........you angry bro?

Quit posting if this is all you have to offer.

[TheRealJayDee]

Sylvianus wrote...
No, I understood well. I just said, that those who have also an xbox or a PS3, if they don't want Origin on their computer, ( privacy ) can decide to play on console if they can. So, no Origin, and they can play the game they waited for months.

Their principles will not be hit if they decide to buy only one game on console, since Origins is still not on their computer.

I have a PS3, so yes, I could play ME3 without having to install Origin on my computer. But I have played ME and ME2 on my computer, I have all my saves there, waiting to be imported. I want to continue my Shepards' stories. I can't, unless I use Origin, which I absolutely won't. Besides that, I won't give EA/Bioware any of my hard earned money for making me abandon a certain gaming platform.

The only way of action for me now is to buy used copies of ME2 and ME3 for my PS3 at some point, so I can at least experience ME3's story outside of youtube. Not at all satisfying. Anyways, if the Origin requirement for retail singleplayer games continues Dragon Age 2 will be the last game EA and Bioware have gotten my money for. Not a nice customer/company breakup.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Cry a foul when you are proved wrong, how typical, if anyone had any doubt about my superiority, this would be it. Also I may point out that my ability to comprehend concepts beyond your grasp is beyond something an immature (undeveloped) or non-adult individual could not do. I won't resort to your level of crying in defeat however, I'm a man, and an educated one at that.

*Smokes bubble pipe and shines monocle with silk cloth*

Still waiting on you to prove me wrong, prove that I did not read most comments and did not get an overall opinion on those comments based on what I read. Prove that you have any evidence to refute what it is I said instead of using generic statements that do not prove anything.

You claim to be a man but act like a child, superior only in your imagination it would seem.

As previously mentioned you did not heed the warning I gave about your behavior and already have been reported for such so I will not be responding to you simply because I will not drop to your level when you cannot refute what it is I have said and resort to generic statements without proof, name calling and immature behavior.

Show the statistical evidence, or breakdown of posts. You can't make a claim without evidence, your lack of evidence is my proof. And even so, the posts are still a small representation sample of the population, one with biases. Statistics, you obviously failed it.

Also dropping to your level with my childish "owned" and what have you is exactly what you did when responding to others, ironic isn't it?

[Pixieking]

Ob4rul3r wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 is not currently available on Steam. This may change in the future, but complaining to BioWare/EA that it is not on Steam will not help. We continue to work with Steam/Valve to make Mass Effect 3 available on Steam."



I know it is pointless to complain about this issue, but I still will state my disappointment about this decision by EA, to let them know that I, as one of their customers, won't go along with that.

It is very obvious that the decision to not publish the game on Steam is basically EAs fault, thinking giving Valve a ~30% share for the DLCs that would have to be sold through Steam as well would be too much of lost money ....


So, since this is mainly an issue about lost money: My money for ME3 is lost for EA, sad but true. I'd instantly pre-order the game (as Digital Deluxe Edition, if available) through Steam. But since there is no option to purchase it at my prefered store, and on top of that is enforcing me to use Origin, I will quit on the idea purchasing ME3 for PC (which is pretty sad, since I pre-ordered both prequels, ME2 through Steam).


But, because I do want to know how the story ends (and because I own a PS3 as well), I will just rent the PS3 version over a weekend and play the campaign ... which is not as satisfying as "continuing with my PC character", but it will work out somehow for me .... ~3 Euro renting fee for a weekend is fine, as long as I can avoid being domineered by EA.


~60€ for a sold copy for EA vs 3€ for a rented PS3 version for some video rental stores owner .... yeah, good thing you didn't gave Valve a 30% share for the DLCs, your stock holders will applause you for sure.



(Still: The game pops up at Steam - It's mine, so think about that. And there's MANY other ppl I know that think that way)

Indeed. Just saying I totally agree with you here, right down to renting it for the PS3.

[Rudy Lis]

hwf wrote...

Question 3: If #1 is so, will DLCs purchased through Origin be able to function on a Steam or Retail purchase of the relevant game?

Can't say about future, but for now, my ME1 bought via Steam works perfectly with Pinnacle Station DLC acquired via Origin.
Since all games linked to our account, I think it doesn't matter where you purchase DLC.

[abaris]

Sylvianus wrote...

It's not one game that will change that. ( If Mass effect is finally with origin ) It would be naive to believe that.

And I disagree. The important thing ( according to what I read ) is to protect its privacy. Then you can decide to take legal action against EA, do politics, do not buy any more EA games, but that is another thing .

But the principles are still respected, if origin is still not installed.

No, because it encourages them and others if they still rake in the dosh.

And I don't care about this or other games if strings are attached. I don't care about any product if strings are attached. Believe it or not, if that's the gaming future, I can live without playing games. Even more so, since the quality of games has suffered tremendeously these last years.

Modifié par abaris, 16 janvier 2012 - 11:13 .

[Dragoonlordz]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Cry a foul when you are proved wrong, how typical, if anyone had any doubt about my superiority, this would be it. Also I may point out that my ability to comprehend concepts beyond your grasp is beyond something an immature (undeveloped) or non-adult individual could not do. I won't resort to your level of crying in defeat however, I'm a man, and an educated one at that.

*Smokes bubble pipe and shines monocle with silk cloth*

Still waiting on you to prove me wrong, prove that I did not read most comments and did not get an overall opinion on those comments based on what I read. Prove that you have any evidence to refute what it is I said instead of using generic statements that do not prove anything.

You claim to be a man but act like a child, superior only in your imagination it would seem.

As previously mentioned you did not heed the warning I gave about your behavior and already have been reported for such so I will not be responding to you simply because I will not drop to your level when you cannot refute what it is I have said and resort to generic statements without proof, name calling and immature behavior.

Show the statistical evidence, or breakdown of posts. You can't make a claim without evidence, your lack of evidence is my proof. And even so, the posts are still a small representation sample of the population, one with biases. Statistics, you obviously failed it.

Also dropping to your level with my childish "owned" and what have you is exactly what you did when responding to others, ironic isn't it?

This will be the last time I respond to you, if you cannot grasp the concept of opinion based on observation then there is no hope for you. You are free to have a different opinion but to refute it based on no evidence from your side does not make your view anymore more valid. The evidence itself is on those very links right at the beginning you are free to go there and read them, then come to your own conclusions but the evidence is there and therefore I do not need to resort to showing anymore than what already exists but you just cannot be bothered to go look for yourself.

Immaturity is yourself throwing around words like "troll and owned" without proving either. You are by rights allowed to have an opinion but opinion alone makes you points no more valid than anothers. If you do not like my observations and opinions you are free to go there and form your own then if so wish feel free if desire to record your statistics and show the results if feel so offended by my own observations. Resorting to name calling shows a serious lack of immaturity on your part and lack of evidence from your end because of lazyness to dispute my opinion does your viewpoint no more credit.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 janvier 2012 - 11:19 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Rudy Lis wrote...

hwf wrote...

Question 3: If #1 is so, will DLCs purchased through Origin be able to function on a Steam or Retail purchase of the relevant game?

Can't say about future, but for now, my ME1 bought via Steam works perfectly with Pinnacle Station DLC acquired via Origin.
Since all games linked to our account, I think it doesn't matter where you purchase DLC.

I think you are very much right in that regard.

[bisonia]

Mass Effect 3 with Origin? No, thank you. Pre-order cancelled.

[Rockworm503]

Alpha Bootis wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

So im not a true fan even if i have just about 100 hours in both ME games yet my rather strong principles prevent me from buying the third at this point?
You call it accepting an inconveniance. I call it selling out.

I was going to facepalm but I don't think he deserved even that much recognition.