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[slimgrin]

abaris wrote...

Alpha Bootis wrote...

Still. What i don't understand is why not just release the game as-is outside of origin and make it optional. I would be able te reinstate my pre-order, EA avoids a lot of flak and everybody who feels origin has any sort of value can go right ahead using it on a voluntarily basis.

Because they want to promote their client. Simple as that.

Yep. This be what it's all about. Well, dammit anyway. I'm still getting ME3, only because I care about the dev team and the series. This is an unfortunate path Bioware is going down, and if every game they make requires Origin I may count myself out.

Modifié par slimgrin, 16 janvier 2012 - 07:54 .

[Pixieking]

Tenryu7 wrote...

Best of luck working with Steam to put Mass Effect 3 on it. I will wait patiently for that day.

And seconding this statement.

[MrChowderClam]

Oh god. I'm fine with Origin, but if the Mass Effect 3 MP uses that same web interface as BF3 that would be terrrrrrible.

IIRC, you can launch Origin in offline mode and still launch games. Or you can also go into your Program Files and launch the game executable directly (if you cut your internet and launch BF3, it just launches the game and not Origin). I'm sure the same would apply to ME3.

[Alpha Bootis]

EA needs to realize Valve controls the Online gaming distribution market with a rather convincing percentage of some 70%. You cannot switch to Origin even if you would want to. You would ALWAYS be bound to steam unless you would say a very expensive goodbye to everything in your steam account. Given that fact, what purpose would be served in Switching to Origin? Anyone who can riddle me that gets a cookie.

[casadechrisso]

Forsythia wrote...

Will we have to buy DLC through this website, or can we do that from within Origin? (which could be much user-friendlier: no more different installer files ftw!)

Then I'd also ask if the prices will be adjusted. 1600 Biopoints on Bioshop: €13,xx. EA shop: €19,99.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Mass Effect 3 WILL require Origin for all PC editions, both physical and digital. This will not change.

That's really too bad.  I liked Bioware's games, but there's no way I can spend my money with EA as long as they're trying requiring me to install spyware as a condition on using their product. 

[Dovahzaan]

Chris Priestly wrote...


5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.

That's disgustingly misleading. We know why you wrote this, you know why you wrote this. Change it, please.

[abaris]

Alpha Bootis wrote...


And goodwill is best served by force-feeding it to your customers? I have serious doubts about that as i am right now boycotting everything that comes from EA's stables requiring Origin.

Yeah, but here's the thing: People actually posting on boards are a minority. People complaining about something are a part of that minority, people actually following through on their threats are a minority of that portion.

Generation facebook on the other hand has lost all sense of privacy. Looking through most of the posts in the previous thread I found a fair bunch of users directing to their social networking sites and promoting steam. So they are in fact unaware of privacy issues.

EA only does what many companies do with browser gimmicks and apps and they doing it with the final instalment or an acclaimed series. As I said, even in the previous thread there were a whole lot of people drooling over the prospect of playing it. So I would say, it's a brilliant PR move.

Do I condone it? No.

I won't buy because of the privacy issues. But I'm not on facebook either and I don't use the little toolbars from certain companies and all the other little helpers phoning home on a regular basis.

slimgrin wrote...


Yep. This be what it's all about.
Well, dammit anyway. I'm still getting ME3, only because I care about
the dev team and the series. This is an unfortunate path Bioware is
going down, and if every game they make requires Origin I may count
myself out.

No, I don't. May sound harsh, but they're just doing their job just like everyone else. They got my respect just like any other human being. But that's it. If their business does the nasty, I'm not supporting that kind of business model.

Modifié par abaris, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:03 .

[Pupuppu]

Why should I trust my game licenses to Origin, a client that failed so many years and wasn't able to acquire any noticeable market share, let alone a community?
What happens if this clients doesn't fulfill the expectations of the investors, will you still invest even if it turns out to be not profitable?
Why should I put my library on Origin that has very few offerings and switch from the leading DD with a well established community and superior features?
If Microsoft can close their DRM shops, why shouldn't EA do so?

[Killjoy Cutter]

Forsythia wrote...

Will we have to buy DLC through this website, or can we do that from within Origin? (which could be much user-friendlier: no more different installer files ftw!)

Downloaded installation files are always better than digital distribution clients. 

[Dragoonlordz]

MrChowderClam wrote...

IIRC, you can launch Origin in offline mode and still launch games. Or you can also go into your Program Files and launch the game executable directly (if you cut your internet and launch BF3, it just launches the game and not Origin). I'm sure the same would apply to ME3.

I do not think the client will change between now and ME3 launch so you may be right. As it stands right now the client itself is very good, sends less information than Steam, only scans its own folder and registry and takes up only slightly more resoruces than Steam. Has most (but not all) of the same functions too. I can't say 100% you are correct because I do not enjoy FPS titles much unless FPS/RPG hybrids (think along the lines of System Shock, DE:HR, Fallout 3 and Skyrim) so I cannot talk about BF3/Origin but your theory sounds possibly right to me.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:05 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Dovahzaan wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.

That's disgustingly misleading. We know why you wrote this, you know why you wrote this. Change it, please.

It is one of the more deliberately misleading parts of the statement. 

[craigdolphin]

Personally I feel Steam and Origin are about as useful as each other: which is to say they're not. But I will grudgingly allow Steam on my computer as their EULA doesn;t give them carte blanche to search my computer for whatever they like. Origin's does IMO. So, no Origin on my computer til they fix it. But personally I'd prefer to do without Steam or Origin altogether.

It is one of the more deliberately misleading parts of the statement. 

Agreed. Answering a different question than the one everyone has been asking.

We want an opt out from the Origin-data mining: not just the ME3 data. CP is bright enough to understand the difference.

Modifié par craigdolphin, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:05 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

There's a "buyer beware" series of comments on the ME3 pre-order page on Amazon.

Good.

[slimgrin]

craigdolphin wrote...

Personally I feel Steam and Origin are about as useful as each other: which is to say they're not. But I will grudgingly allow Steam on my computer as their EULA doesn;t give them carte blanche to search my computer for whatever they like. Origin's does IMO. So, no Origin on my computer til they fix it. But personally I'd prefer to do without Steam or Origin altogether.

+100

I'm against this trend and I'd rather not have any client be required for buying a game.

I'm sending spies from GoG to infiltrate EA headqurters and commanding them to brainwash their CEO's into ethical behavior.

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:57 .

[Matt VT Schlo]

Thank god I am not a PC gamer, as this is a disaster....No Origin for many...EA is just asking for trouble from the PC crowd

[PnXMarcin1PL]

craigdolphin wrote...

Personally I feel Steam and Origin are about as useful as each other: which is to say they're not. But I will grudgingly allow Steam on my computer as their EULA doesn;t give them carte blanche to search my computer for whatever they like. Origin's does IMO. So, no Origin on my computer til they fix it. But personally I'd prefer to do without Steam or Origin altogether.

it does not anymore http://img52.imagesh...68/originci.png but still lets ask question herte
lets not make this thread as crazy as it's previos version

[hvkasteren]

Guess I'm not going to be playing Mass Effect 3 any time soon. I'll wait until an Origin free version arrives.

And no, I'm not going to get a console just for this one game.

[DBZMagus]

Ryzaki wrote...

Will not change?

Well there goes my hope.

I'm not installing more bloatware BW. I'm not. I hope you're happy that I'm stuck buying it on Xbox now. Grrr.

Oooo burn, you sure told them! Instead of buying their game for PC, you're going to buy their game on Xbox, that'll show'em!

People, if you're not happy with EA's business practices you have to boycott. That means having some willpower. Buying it for Xbox just hurts chances of future games coming to PC at all, and they'll blame it on piracy. Have a backbone and stand up for what you believe. I know I am. I would say "pre-order cancelled," but I didn't pre-order in the first place because I knew EA/Bioware would pull this crap.

Modifié par DBZMagus, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:08 .

[Wittand25]

Alpha Bootis wrote...

EA needs to realize Valve controls the Online gaming distribution market with a rather convincing percentage of some 70%. You cannot switch to Origin even if you would want to. You would ALWAYS be bound to steam unless you would say a very expensive goodbye to everything in your steam account. Given that fact, what purpose would be served in Switching to Origin? Anyone who can riddle me that gets a cookie.

You do realise that you can have Origin and Steam instaled on the same computer right ? And that you can stop either service as soon as you stop playing a game requireing them ?

I fail to see why people would suddenly be forced to switch and not simply use both. I have both on this computer and Steam is only running if I play a Steam game. Origin is not running at all since I do not own any game that would require it right now and I only occasionaly run Origin to keep it up to date and to test what it actually does (which is not very much).

[Wardka]

Strictly for my own morbid curiosity, I'd like to know how long they knew about this, considering we've been asking for this information since September. But I think that's one of the least likeliest questions to be answered.

[shepskisaac]

So Chris, what about our questions?

[casadechrisso]

... and would you please please please with sugar on top just sticky this thread now? Just the opening FAQ is much more important to many users than some silly pre-order bonus items or a twitter thread!

[abaris]

DBZMagus wrote...


Oooo burn, you sure told them! Instead of buying their game for PC, you're going to buy their game on Xbox, that'll show'em!

Yeah, right between the eyes. I can see them tremble in fear.

[Alex06]

In the other topic, someone replied to me that there is an offline Origin mode. but to do that, you need to start Origin and first be connected to the internet to log in. Offline mode is merely "appearing as offline", from what I've noticed. You're not REALLY offline. You still need an internet connection, which contradicts the "No internet connection required beyond the install authentification".

So I don't see why Origin will be required to constantly run so that you can play Mass Effect single player.

I'll also add that I care little for trying to push social features and social monitoring through to gamers. I want to play my games alone, even when I'm on vacation and no internet connection is available. I want to be able to start a game by not having Origin or Steam running, no working internet connection, and to be able to place a shortcut on my desktop to masseffect3.exe and run the game from that. Nothing's going to change my mind on that. I have no interest in arguing that point (But it's the future! But it's the law! But it's what everyone else wants! - IDC.). What I don't mind is having to authenticate the game through Origin once after installing it to activate the serial key and installation. I want to know if I can do that. If I can't, I'm not buying. That's what I want to know. Is this still possible?

Modifié par Alex06, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:12 .