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[kofelover]

anzolino wrote...

@ kofelover, did you test ME2?

Hi!   Yes, I did.  If you simply install it thru Steam, it does not show up in Origins. Unless, however, you try to connect the the Cerberus (?? sp.) Network for DLC, in which case you're promted for an EA (Origin) Login.

I believe the game is too old to test.  A better test, and I'm thinking of doing it, would be to see with Amalur coming out next month.  It's not Origin requirement, but is an EA game.

[kofelover]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

kofelover wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

wish bioware was bought by MS....at least they treat their developers better according to Epic and Bungie

I will probably getted flamed for this -- but Valve would have been better.   Private company, lots of funding and never in a rush to push a game out the door AND they don't have an RPG element.

I've never even played a Valve game, but I'll make the joke:

If Valve owned BW, we'd never see ME3!

LOL -- that was great!!

[Dragoonlordz]

DTKT wrote...

With TOR not being the runaway success they wished for, and no buzz surrounding the game, Bioware Austin is facing significant pressure in order to keep the giant floating.

Where did you get that information, just genuinely curious can send via private message if wish.

[anzolino]

@ BAOBAB_AOTEAROA,
the traffic can be checked, but nobody did it at my knowledge, it's a little tricky. All about this is only a guess.

[EternalPink]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

B

I've been struggling to think of any other product that i purchase that has as many strings attached as it seems ME3 does, sadly i can't

Any other piece of software. Someone mentioned BF3 above (I actually tried returning it on the grounds that multi player was defective, but was - predictably - turned down).

No other software that i've brought have i had to give permission for my PC to be scanned which is what we would have been doing if EA's original EULA hadn't of attracted the attention of the gaming press.

Yes they've now changed the EULA but simple question for you, if you saw someone stealing you wallet and shouted at them so they knew you were watching, would you suddenly trust that person since they've stopped stealing you wallet? I wouldn't. You earn no praise/respect/trust for making a change AFTER you've been caught.

And the fact that the original EULA got through bioware/EA quality control is the biggest cause for concern in my opinion, if quality control is that poor on an important document that goes with the product i really don't want to guess what its like for the actual product itself.

[anzolino]

kofelover wrote...
Hi! Yes, I did. If you simply install it thru Steam, it does not show up in Origins. Unless, however, you try to connect the the Cerberus (?? sp.) Network for DLC, in which case you're promted for an EA (Origin) Login.

I believe the game is too old to test. A better test, and I'm thinking of doing it, would be to see with Amalur coming out next month. It's not Origin requirement, but is an EA game.

Ah, ok. We will wait by then. Thanks for your time )

[kofelover]

jreezy wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I've never even played a Valve game.

You do yourself a disservice by not playing Half-Life or Portal.

I just started the HL series (to try to go outside my RPG box) and you're right. 

BTW, it was just a joke about Valve/ Bioware and only meant that Bioware would have more freedom, funding and less time pressure (obviously, look at HL3) to make great games.  I wasn't considering the DRM side -- sorry everyone!!

[Aaleel]

IsaacShep wrote...

PC pre-orders already plummet lol?

Weekly increase in Pre-Orders last week:
X360 - 55,958
PS3 - 7,006
PC - 3,102


Weekly increase in Pre-Orders this week:
X360 - 78,888 (+41%)
PS3 - 9,644 (+37.7%)
PC - 589 (-81%)

Interesting, I guess people weren't bluffing after all and said to hell with it.  The first month's sales will really tell how much resistance there is.

[Hedera]

People seem to forget that BioWare, while not being EA, is owned by EA. They have to listen to them, or they get fired. Also, Origin scanning your computer to see if you have other EA games in your programs isn't really that big a deal.

Being so concerned with your privacy, I can't imagine why you'd have an internet connection at all in this day and age. Every website you visit is full of phishing and scams, and your internet browser happily hands your history over to any server it queries. Unfortunately, privacy is kind of gone now, unless you want to unplug your internet, kill your credit cards, and live in a tent.

Modifié par cgrimm54, 17 janvier 2012 - 12:18 .

[Weskerr]

Chris Priestly wrote...


I have many pages of the last thread to read to gather all the questions. The more people post "I hate Origin, no game for me, etc" instead of asking questions, the mroe time it is going to take before I can even get around to asking the questions.

Don't forget the people posting about the insulting way certain questions were answered, how BioWare and EA have lost their trust, how badly they feel BioWare and EA are treating their customers, why the thread wasn't stickied and the ludcricous response you gave among other things. Once you get through all of that then yes, you'll get around to answering some questions.

I'm out. Bye BioWare.

Modifié par Weskerr, 17 janvier 2012 - 12:19 .

[Aaleel]

jreezy wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I've never even played a Valve game.

You do yourself a disservice by not playing Half-Life or Portal.

I never have either lol.  For years people would ask if I wa son Steam and I would say no, and they would say "so you've never played a valve game" and I'd say no.  People look at you like you hate puppies and kittens or something.

[AlanC9]

Those preorder numbers make the PC platform seem kind of worthless anyway

[anzolino]

EternalPink wrote...
And the fact that the original EULA got through bioware/EA quality control is the biggest cause for concern in my opinion, if quality control is that poor on an important document that goes with the product i really don't want to guess what its like for the actual product itself.

The European and German EA people said (in this December meeting) they had "fight" against this EULA (from August - remember?), but the US people don't wanted to hear. I don't know if it's true or if they just said that to calm down the people in Germany. But one is true: the data protection awareness is a complete different on both sites.

[crimzontearz]

not the point Kofe. MS might not be perfect but always had their developers's back. Basically told Bungie and Epic to take their goddamn time with everything and supplied lots of manpower and budget.....we know the results

[Stanley Woo]

apixaez wrote...

I have a very simple question then: Why?

Why am I being forced a client upon me when there is A) a perfectly working client available in the form of Steam.

The game is not currently available on Steam. It is, however, avaialble via other digital download retailers. A product must be offered for sale somewhere, and as always, you the consumer have the right to choose to purchase the product or not purchase the product based on the information available. This information is available in Chris Priestly's first post of this thread. Please review that information. More answers to more questions are being sought by Chris Priestly based on the feedback of community members in these discussion threads. We do not have an ETA for those answers.

the legitimacy of the client in question is questionable (reports of forced datamining, the lawsuit in Germany, privacy infringements)

This information is available in Chris Priestly's first post of this
thread. Please review that information. More answers to more questions
are being sought by Chris Priestly based on the feedback of community
members in these discussion threads. We do not have an ETA for those
answers.

and C) needed in the first place as I do not care for an Origin account or stats or whatever Origin is needed for when it only offers EA games and looks like a "fancy" DRM in the first place?

As always, you have the right to purchase a game or not purchase a game based on whatever criteria you use to make such decisions. I cannot make the decision for you, nor am I here to convince you one way or another. This is a decision that you, as a responsible consumer, must make for youself. Thank you.

[apixaez]

cgrimm54 wrote...

People seem to forget that BioWare, while not being EA, is owned by EA. They have to listen to them, or they get fired. Also, Origin scanning your computer to see if you have other EA games in your programs isn't really that big a deal.

Being so concerned with your privacy, I can't imagine why you'd have an internet connection at all in this day and age. Every website you visit is full of phishing and scams, and your internet browser happily hands your history over to any server it queries. Unfortunately, privacy is kind of gone now, unless you want to unplug your internet, kill your credit cards, and live in a tent.

I think you seem to be missing the point. If Origin were only to scan for EA games to start with, there would be less of an issue. Also there is something there called CHOICE. You have the choice to visit sites that phish and scam or not. Not to mention there's enough programs out there that protect you from sites like that with pop-up blockers, etc. I could even start about proxies, etc.

So please.

[SirLysander]

Aaleel wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

PC pre-orders already plummet lol?

Weekly increase in Pre-Orders last week:
X360 - 55,958
PS3 - 7,006
PC - 3,102


Weekly increase in Pre-Orders this week:
X360 - 78,888 (+41%)
PS3 - 9,644 (+37.7%)
PC - 589 (-81%)

Interesting, I guess people weren't bluffing after all and said to hell with it.  The first month's sales will really tell how much resistance there is.

EXCEPT - the "This week" numbers are for the WEEK ENDING Jan 14, 2012. 

The Origin Announcement was in the afternoon, Friday, January 13, 2012.

The weekly drop in preorders has another reason, but Origin's announcement was more than likely too late to have any meaningful effect.

[Dragoonlordz]

Aaleel wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

PC pre-orders already plummet lol?

Weekly increase in Pre-Orders last week:
X360 - 55,958
PS3 - 7,006
PC - 3,102


Weekly increase in Pre-Orders this week:
X360 - 78,888 (+41%)
PS3 - 9,644 (+37.7%)
PC - 589 (-81%)

Interesting, I guess people weren't bluffing after all and said to hell with it.  The first month's sales will really tell how much resistance there is.

I can only go by VGC but first weeks sales of ME1 (PC) was 12k, first week for ME2 (PC) was 36k and so far for ME3 (PC) that is pre-orders before even reaching week 1 is currently 73k with 8 weeks to go. All three I think based on USA numbers.

None of these including DD service copies as far as I know. I also cannot be sure VGC is right but thats best I have to go on and same place figures you quoted came from. The end of this week will be more revealing than last weeks numbers.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 17 janvier 2012 - 12:25 .

[MysterD]

So here's my questions for BIOWARE and EA:
1. Will the forced one-time online activation will be required to be done THROUGH Origin?
2. Once activated, can we RUN Mass Effect 3 PC's Single Player Portion w/out Origin program running in the background?

Modifié par MysterD, 17 janvier 2012 - 12:27 .

[shepskisaac]

SirLysander wrote...

EXCEPT - the "This week" numbers are for the WEEK ENDING Jan 14, 2012. 

The Origin Announcement was in the afternoon, Friday, January 13, 2012.

The weekly drop in preorders has another reason, but Origin's announcement was more than likely too late to have any meaningful effect.

1,5 days is enough for many people to cancel their pre-orders which would influence the weekly growth number radically. Especially since many gaming websites were posting articles on this already on Friday and Saturday

[Aaleel]

SirLysander wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

PC pre-orders already plummet lol?

Weekly increase in Pre-Orders last week:
X360 - 55,958
PS3 - 7,006
PC - 3,102


Weekly increase in Pre-Orders this week:
X360 - 78,888 (+41%)
PS3 - 9,644 (+37.7%)
PC - 589 (-81%)

Interesting, I guess people weren't bluffing after all and said to hell with it.  The first month's sales will really tell how much resistance there is.

EXCEPT - the "This week" numbers are for the WEEK ENDING Jan 14, 2012. 

The Origin Announcement was in the afternoon, Friday, January 13, 2012.

The weekly drop in preorders has another reason, but Origin's announcement was more than likely too late to have any meaningful effect.

Who said it had anything to do with the announcement.  People have been talking about canceling pre orders for weeks.  They probably had gotten tired of waiting for answers, and just didn't pre order until they got an answer ot some may have cancelled.

[crimzontearz]

wait did Stanley just pull a "if you don't like it don't buy it" line???