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[Ravenmyste]

[inappropriate discussion removed]

m,uch as i hate  what ea did to bioware i dont blame bioware at all just for what they made the do to da2 and pray it doesnt do it to me 3

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 17 janvier 2012 - 07:19 .

[AlanC9]

GirlPower23 wrote...
 Remember it's always the vocal minority that gets thing's changed not the "Oh well crowd."

Of course, sometimes the vocal minority just..... loses.

[Alpha Bootis]

cgrimm54 wrote...

People seem to forget that BioWare, while not being EA, is owned by EA. They have to listen to them, or they get fired. Also, Origin scanning your computer to see if you have other EA games in your programs isn't really that big a deal.

Being so concerned with your privacy, I can't imagine why you'd have an internet connection at all in this day and age. Every website you visit is full of phishing and scams, and your internet browser happily hands your history over to any server it queries. Unfortunately, privacy is kind of gone now, unless you want to unplug your internet, kill your credit cards, and live in a tent.

This is factually a heap of horsedung. Just so that I put it out there.
Its an overused and above all incorrect excuse to justify the robbing of further privacy. Living in privacy is very much still possible and unless you have some malware of some kind you browser does not randomly give its history to websites so you can even have internet. You can even have facebook! As long as you follow the basic rules of not putting on the internet what you don't want on it you are golden.

[Adugan]

Stanley Woo wrote...

I respect your position and admire your determination. i also hold out the hope that some of those who choose not to buy due to Origin will have cause to change their minds, and that they remain within our community to keep talking to us.

I have tried to discuss the issue with Chris. After a comment asking for clarification on the issue, Chris started ignoring my PMs. Is this what all fans who hang around have in store for them?

[AlanC9]

What clarification did you ask for, Adugan?

[Adugan]

AlanC9 wrote...

What clarification did you ask for, Adugan?

 

I asked him to explain why sandboxing origin is agains the rules, and as he put it, "copyright circumvention". The mail is still unanswered 2 weeks later.

[casadechrisso]

Adugan wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

I respect your position and admire your determination. i also hold out the hope that some of those who choose not to buy due to Origin will have cause to change their minds, and that they remain within our community to keep talking to us.

I have tried to discuss the issue with Chris. After a comment asking for clarification on the issue, Chris started ignoring my PMs. Is this what all fans who hang around have in store for them?

Be reasonable. Do you know how many PMs they get every day, do you think they have nothing else to do than engaging in discussions over multiple PMs with every single user who sends them a message?

[Adugan]

casadechrisso wrote...

Adugan wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

I respect your position and admire your determination. i also hold out the hope that some of those who choose not to buy due to Origin will have cause to change their minds, and that they remain within our community to keep talking to us.

I have tried to discuss the issue with Chris. After a comment asking for clarification on the issue, Chris started ignoring my PMs. Is this what all fans who hang around have in store for them?

Be reasonable. Do you know how many PMs they get every day, do you think they have nothing else to do than engaging in discussions over multiple PMs with every single user who sends them a message?

I am being reasonable. He answered another pm on an unrelated matter a few days ago, but the first mail is still ignored.

[kstarler]

I'm just chiming in to say that I am one of the many people who will not be purchasing Mass Effect 3 as a direct result of this decision. Additionally, it is unlikely that I will purchase any other BioWare products in the future.

[Bogsnot1]

[inappropriate discussion removed]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 17 janvier 2012 - 07:30 .

[Stanley Woo]

A very off-topic for this thread and somewhat disrespectful line of discussion has been removed from this thread. I really do sympathize with you guys, but you're making it awfully difficult to justify keeping this thread open when you (the general "participants of this thread" you) time and again resort to violating our Site Rules and going off-topic.

Bogsnot1, Ravenmyste and Girlpower23, consider this your warning. Any further attempts to steer this discussion towards company bashing will result in more punitive measures.

I would like to thank some of our forum veterans such as Dragoonlordz and Zanallen for trying to keep this debate/discussion/argument open and on an even keel.

[elitecom]

Sofia Lamb wrote...

GirlPower23 wrote...

Yet Blizzard listened to their fans and didn't do it. They also were going to make the cross realm invite system paid for.. and yet again listened to their fans and did not go ahead with it. This is what we call "Listening" to fans and giving them the best experience possible, this is not giving random PR COmments like "It's out of our hands" or "We want the best experience possible" but then go to say "We don't want to hear it."  Unfortunately I don't know what BiOWare have attempted to do or not to do. What I do know is they aren't giving their customers the best experience. They are making a lot of fans unhappy. Whether that's through the usage of Origin or ignoring Steam. 

A lot of fans? I do not believe the Origin debacle has reached the heights of the Blizzard incident, or even the orginal Mass Effect's DRM. But we shall see.

Indeed we shall, and that's part of the point of this thread isn't it? The more people that are aware of this and against it, the greater the chance is that EA will change its mind on this.

[Docjam]

Stanley Woo wrote...

A very off-topic for this thread and somewhat disrespectful line of discussion has been removed from this thread. I really do sympathize with you guys, but you're making it awfully difficult to justify keeping this thread open when you (the general "participants of this thread" you) time and again resort to violating our Site Rules and going off-topic.

Bogsnot1, Ravenmyste and Girlpower23, consider this your warning. Any further attempts to steer this discussion towards company bashing will result in more punitive measures.

I would like to thank some of our forum veterans such as Dragoonlordz and Zanallen for trying to keep this debate/discussion/argument open and on an even keel.

Something I want to know..

How is it that Bioware was able to steer Star Wars: The Old Republic away from requiring Origin (had it required Origin, I never would have bought it, as well), and yet, cannot steer away from an Origin requirement for Mass Effect 3?

[Adugan]

Docjam wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

A very off-topic for this thread and somewhat disrespectful line of discussion has been removed from this thread. I really do sympathize with you guys, but you're making it awfully difficult to justify keeping this thread open when you (the general "participants of this thread" you) time and again resort to violating our Site Rules and going off-topic.

Bogsnot1, Ravenmyste and Girlpower23, consider this your warning. Any further attempts to steer this discussion towards company bashing will result in more punitive measures.

I would like to thank some of our forum veterans such as Dragoonlordz and Zanallen for trying to keep this debate/discussion/argument open and on an even keel.

Something I want to know..

How is it that Bioware was able to steer Star Wars: The Old Republic away from requiring Origin (had it required Origin, I never would have bought it, as well), and yet, cannot steer away from an Origin requirement for Mass Effect 3?

There is absolutely no logical explanation for having Origin on an MMO. As a social add-on, it is pointless. MMOs have their own social UI. As DRM, it is useless. There is nothing that can be pirated from an MMO, since it is 100% online. Pirate MMO servers cannot be prevented by Origin. Overall it would just lag the game, which combined with peoples' already terrible PCs would pretty much crash SWTOR. 

[Zanallen]

elitecom wrote...

Indeed we shall, and that's part of the point of this thread isn't it? The more people that are aware of this and against it, the greater the chance is that EA will change its mind on this.

And if you really want to get your point across, I would suggest speaking directly to EA with your concerns. Organize an email campaign to bombard EA with the people's concerns about Origin. Or maybe go old school and use physical letters in an effort to reinforce the sheer numbers of people unwilling to compromise on this issue. Or perhaps you can pull a Germany and discuss your concerns with your local news affiliates.

Unfortunately, complaining about Origin on the BSN and threatening to cancel your preorders isn't going to get EA to change their minds. I doubt very many EA execs come here and anything that Chris or other Bioware staff relay is going to be filtered through several others and most likely won't create much of a response. A large drop in potential sales may get their attention, but that will come too late for ME3.

Edit: When I say bombard, I don't mean spam. I am refering to a large group of people sending in eloquent, well reasoned letters that express their concerns regarding Origin.

Modifié par Zanallen, 17 janvier 2012 - 08:00 .

[Docjam]

Adugan wrote...

Docjam wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

A very off-topic for this thread and somewhat disrespectful line of discussion has been removed from this thread. I really do sympathize with you guys, but you're making it awfully difficult to justify keeping this thread open when you (the general "participants of this thread" you) time and again resort to violating our Site Rules and going off-topic.

Bogsnot1, Ravenmyste and Girlpower23, consider this your warning. Any further attempts to steer this discussion towards company bashing will result in more punitive measures.

I would like to thank some of our forum veterans such as Dragoonlordz and Zanallen for trying to keep this debate/discussion/argument open and on an even keel.

Something I want to know..

How is it that Bioware was able to steer Star Wars: The Old Republic away from requiring Origin (had it required Origin, I never would have bought it, as well), and yet, cannot steer away from an Origin requirement for Mass Effect 3?

There is absolutely no logical explanation for having Origin on an MMO. As a social add-on, it is pointless. MMOs have their own social UI. As DRM, it is useless. There is nothing that can be pirated from an MMO, since it is 100% online. Pirate MMO servers cannot be prevented by Origin. Overall it would just lag the game, which combined with peoples' already terrible PCs would pretty much crash SWTOR. 

Origin can't prevent that sort of crime on any game, as evidenced by 2 of the 5 most stolen games of 2011 being Origin exclusive.  All the other rationales may make sense to you and me, but they don't make sense to the suits at the board meetings.

Originally Star Wars: The Old Republic was going to be Origin exclusive, but somewhere along the line the requirement for Origin to play the game was removed.  Am I incorrect in this?

[didymos1120]

It's pretty simple: Star Wars? Not EA's IP. Mass Effect? Is an EA IP.

[Stouny]

Docjam wrote...

Adugan wrote...

Docjam wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

A very off-topic for this thread and somewhat disrespectful line of discussion has been removed from this thread. I really do sympathize with you guys, but you're making it awfully difficult to justify keeping this thread open when you (the general "participants of this thread" you) time and again resort to violating our Site Rules and going off-topic.

Bogsnot1, Ravenmyste and Girlpower23, consider this your warning. Any further attempts to steer this discussion towards company bashing will result in more punitive measures.

I would like to thank some of our forum veterans such as Dragoonlordz and Zanallen for trying to keep this debate/discussion/argument open and on an even keel.

Something I want to know..

How is it that Bioware was able to steer Star Wars: The Old Republic away from requiring Origin (had it required Origin, I never would have bought it, as well), and yet, cannot steer away from an Origin requirement for Mass Effect 3?

There is absolutely no logical explanation for having Origin on an MMO. As a social add-on, it is pointless. MMOs have their own social UI. As DRM, it is useless. There is nothing that can be pirated from an MMO, since it is 100% online. Pirate MMO servers cannot be prevented by Origin. Overall it would just lag the game, which combined with peoples' already terrible PCs would pretty much crash SWTOR. 

Origin can't prevent that sort of crime on any game, as evidenced by 2 of the 5 most stolen games of 2011 being Origin exclusive.  All the other rationales may make sense to you and me, but they don't make sense to the suits at the board meetings.

Originally Star Wars: The Old Republic was going to be Origin exclusive, but somewhere along the line the requirement for Origin to play the game was removed.  Am I incorrect in this?

It still is Origin exclusive, but you don´t need the client to download it, just the account to purchase the game if you want the digital edition. 

[Wittand25]

Docjam wrote...
Origin can't prevent that sort of crime on any game, as evidenced by 2 of the 5 most stolen games of 2011 being Origin exclusive.  All the other rationales may make sense to you and me, but they don't make sense to the suits at the board meetings.

Originally Star Wars: The Old Republic was going to be Origin exclusive, but somewhere along the line the requirement for Origin to play the game was removed.  Am I incorrect in this?

As far as I know you are wrong.
I have been following SW:ToR since back in 2009 and in all that time there was never anything official or even unofficial regarding an Origin requirement for SW:ToR.
Origin is however the only digital store that had SW:ToR up for preorder.

[CroGamer002]

didymos1120 wrote...

It's pretty simple: Star Wars? Not EA's IP. Mass Effect? Is an EA IP.

Yeah, this.

[Sylvianus]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

I would say this , because the majority are console players who don't have to worry about downloading origins.

I don't get that. What would change a kind of origin on console ?

to be connected to xbox live, you must first have provided many information. (Address, email, account number, phone number, etc etc etc )

[Adugan]

Sylvianus wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

I would say this , because the majority are console players who don't have to worry about downloading origins.

I don't get that. What would change a kind of origin on console ?

to be connected to xbox live, you must first have provided many information. (Address, email, account number, phone number, etc etc etc )

And even if Origin was spyware on the Xbox/PS3, what would there be to spy on? What games you bought on the marketplace? How many hours you spent playing them? That information is already collected by Microsoft/Sony.

[Sylvianus]

Adugan wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

I would say this , because the majority are console players who don't have to worry about downloading origins.

I don't get that. What would change a kind of origin on console ?

to be connected to xbox live, you must first have provided many information. (Address, email, account number, phone number, etc etc etc )

And even if Origin was spyware on the Xbox/PS3, what would there be to spy on? What games you bought on the marketplace? How many hours you spent playing them? That information is already collected by Microsoft/Sony.

LOL. yeah.

That's why I didn't get his comment.