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[Alex06]

My 1st question is:
I want to play Mass Effect 3 single player alone, without Origin nor being connected to the internet, even when I'm on vacation and no internet connection is available. I want to be able to start a game by not having Origin or Steam running, no working internet connection, and to be able to place a shortcut on my desktop to masseffect3.exe and run the game from that. Is this possible?

My 2nd one is:
If I bought the game from a store and I have an actual disc, if I install the game from that disc, will I require to always insert the disc into the drive to play the single player?

The current questions feel incomplete and they are a bit confusing, so I would really appreciate some clarification on these two.

Modifié par Alex06, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:17 .

[Chris Priestly]

IsaacShep wrote...

So Chris, what about our questions?

I have many pages of the last thread to read to gather all the questions. The more people post "I hate Origin, no game for me, etc" instead of asking questions, the mroe time it is going to take before I can even get around to asking the questions.

This will not stop people from posting their opinions, but it will delay me in getting your answers.

[Erawiob]

Just a fyi, news has now also hit the Dutch Tweaker community. Chris is teh famous.

tweakers.net/nieuws/79377/ook-mass-effect-3-niet-verkrijgbaar-via-steam.html

You dont wanne know how many site this is already being discussed about. Many people are not really happy with this

[Dragoonlordz]

Alpha Bootis wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

Alpha Bootis wrote...

EA needs to realize Valve controls the Online gaming distribution market with a rather convincing percentage of some 70%. You cannot switch to Origin even if you would want to. You would ALWAYS be bound to steam unless you would say a very expensive goodbye to everything in your steam account. Given that fact, what purpose would be served in Switching to Origin? Anyone who can riddle me that gets a cookie.

You do realise that you can have Origin and Steam instaled on the same computer right ? And that you can stop either service as soon as you stop playing a game requireing them ?

I fail to see why people would suddenly be forced to switch and not simply use both. I have both on this computer and Steam is only running if I play a Steam game. Origin is not running at all since I do not own any game that would require it right now and I only occasionaly run Origin to keep it up to date and to test what it actually does (which is not very much).

What purpose is served in running two game managers if i even question the purpose of one?

Same reason might run three or just one. All three companies want income from their own services anyone who believes Steam exist not for profit is simply on most basic level wrong just like EA who wants a peice of the pie with their own version of DD service especially given they make some of the biggest games each year and have around 30 million customers and just like Ubisoft who wants control over it's own products. Reason for having any is you want to play the game and they want you to play by their rules which in itself is not insane as they are the ones who spent millions making that product not the customer. Te customer only pays for the product previously released not development of new ones.

[Killjoy Cutter]

This issue is not going away until ME3 is available in a retail hardcopy without Origin.

[Wardka]

Mike Shepard wrote...

I have gotten a response from a wall post from Chris and a PM to another moderator. my guess is the topic dictates if they respond.

Oh. Mine were about an email sent to me signed by Chris when the Bioboards were hacked (which I couldn't reply to) with some questions about security and CD-Keys, and then another when we weren't allowed to discuss Origin at all on these forums.

*shrug*

[WarlockOne]

So, I've now had multiple comments eaten by this board... I'm going to keep this one very short.

I've played ME1 and 2. I've played EA games since the days of "Archon" and "Wasteland" and "Ultimate Wizard".

The terms of Origin turn what is supposed to be a simple customer-provider relationship into something where the customer surrenders not only their money but unknown amounts of information, much of their right to redress if something goes wrong, and even the certainty of being able to access the game they paid for in the first place.

No amount of claims to the contrary will make this "industry standard". It is abusive and coercive, and ripe for further abuse of customer trust. I will not be part of allowing this to become the new status quo. Unless EA changes course, they will have lost the custom of someone who has been a loyal customer for decades, and I will certainly be advising all my game-playing peers of how EA envisions this new version of the customer-provider relationship.

Goodbye, EA.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Alpha Bootis wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

Alpha Bootis wrote...

EA needs to realize Valve controls the Online gaming distribution market with a rather convincing percentage of some 70%. You cannot switch to Origin even if you would want to. You would ALWAYS be bound to steam unless you would say a very expensive goodbye to everything in your steam account. Given that fact, what purpose would be served in Switching to Origin? Anyone who can riddle me that gets a cookie.

You do realise that you can have Origin and Steam instaled on the same computer right ? And that you can stop either service as soon as you stop playing a game requireing them ?

I fail to see why people would suddenly be forced to switch and not simply use both. I have both on this computer and Steam is only running if I play a Steam game. Origin is not running at all since I do not own any game that would require it right now and I only occasionaly run Origin to keep it up to date and to test what it actually does (which is not very much).

What purpose is served in running two game managers if i even question the purpose of one?

Same reason might run three or just one. All three companies want income from their own services anyone who believes Steam exist not for profit is simply on most basic level wrong just like EA who wants a peice of the pie with their own version of DD service especially given they make some of the biggest games each year and have around 30 million customers and just like Ubisoft who wants control over it's own products. Reason for having any is you want to play the game and they want you to play by their rules which in itself is not insane as they are the ones who spent millions making that product not the customer. Te customer only pays for the product previously released not development of new ones.

All they're doing is losing my business, as I do not and will not use digital distribution clients.  I want hardcopy, or nothing.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:16 .

[Alex06]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

In the other topic, someone replied to me that there is an offline Origin mode. but to do that, you need to start Origin and first be connected to the internet to log in. Offline mode is merely "appearing as offline", from what I've noticed. You're not REALLY offline. You still need an internet connection, which contradicts the "No internet connection required beyond the install authentification".

So I don't see why Origin will be required to constantly run so that you can play Mass Effect single player.

I'll also add that I care little for trying to push social features and social monitoring through to gamers. I want to play my games alone, even when I'm on vacation and no internet connection is available. Nothing's going to change my mind on that.

Why do you think they want you online? 

So they can tell their shareholders they're "doing something" about piracy (which is a lie, as everyone with even meager sense knows that DRM and other measures do nothing to stop piracy.  PS -- DON'T PIRATE).

So they can mine as much data as possible from your computer.

So they can monitor your gaming habits.

So they can make sure you're not "cheating" in a single-player game.  (Which includes stopping mods.)

So they can push advertising to your desktop.

So they can try to capture your "digital download" business.

All those are valid reasons, yet I do not give a single ounce of interest for them. Sorry. I'm very impartial (and kind of known to be a jerk) when it comes to my privacy and gaming.

If I can't buy the exact product I'm looking for, I'm not buying. And I don't pirate things, so no worries there.

Modifié par Alex06, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:18 .

[Fredvdp]

IsaacShep wrote...

So Chris, what about our questions?

Well, at least he answered this question.

[Killjoy Cutter]

PDesign wrote...

You can run Origin in offline mode.

Doesn't matter.

[casadechrisso]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Ditto, plus I also use Ubisofts on top of Steam and Origin. You are 100% right in what you just said.

And you think this is "giving gamers the best experience possible", yes? I call that a major annoyance, especially since all the data Origin mines goes directly into personalized ads that keep popping up every time I start my client.
Not to mention that I'm already having massive problems memorizing the hundreds of different account logins required for every step in the corporate interwebz world. I want less, not more of this dirt. Needless to say you will have to configure each of these clients to your liking so they don't autoload on Windows start, don't automine data, don't do this, don't do that... It's not all about Spyware and privacy, it's also simply about getting rid of my chronical headache.

[Aaleel]

Chris Priestly wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

So Chris, what about our questions?

I have many pages of the last thread to read to gather all the questions. The more people post "I hate Origin, no game for me, etc" instead of asking questions, the mroe time it is going to take before I can even get around to asking the questions.

This will not stop people from posting their opinions, but it will delay me in getting your answers.

The question about whether or not we have to have Origin installed and running after we authenticate the game for SP was asked early and often in the other thread, and early and often in this one.  Can we please have an answer?

Modifié par Aaleel, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:18 .

[slimgrin]

So uhm, when will the toolkit come out for modders? You know, like the one you guys did for Dragon Age?

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:21 .

[Ottemis]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

_Guy_Fawkes_ wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

From IsaacShep:

To Chris Priestly

1) If we do not intend to use multiplayer, can we uninstall Origin after completing one time single authorization for the single player game?

2) Also, will I have to install Origin EVERY TIME I install Mass Effect 3, or after one time single authorization I will no longer have to install Origin ever again?

I pretty much followed all of the first, now closed, ME3 & Origin thread and these are questions quite a lot of your potential customers are interested in.
*snip*

Stop asking this. The answer is yes, you have to have it installed. Why would you think differently? Still have some kind of faith in EA?

Think of it as the equivalent to Steam. If you have ME3, you have to have Origin.

I think what people want to know is specifically HOW we are authenticating the game/DLC via Origin/EA.
Is this going to be directly linked to the separate Origin client or is this going to be an in-game (optional) integrated login like in ME2? Possibly something ingame that would launch Origin if/when you need it?
Just brainstorming here.

This would also answer the question alot of people seem to have about having to keep Origin installed.

Modifié par Ottemis, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:22 .

[Dovahzaan]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Please continue to ask questions about Mass Effect 3 and Origin and I will continue to try to get the answers for you.

Did you even answer one? But keep trying.

Edit. I know, I'm too late:ph34r:

Modifié par Dovahzaan, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:18 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Erawiob wrote...

Just a fyi, news has now also hit the Dutch Tweaker community. Chris is teh famous.

tweakers.net/nieuws/79377/ook-mass-effect-3-niet-verkrijgbaar-via-steam.html

You dont wanne know how many site this is already being discussed about. Many people are not really happy with this

Most of the comments on that site are positive rather than negative the same applies to Kotaku where most comments on the story were between neutral and positive. So unless you sites are any different I'm not sure what your point was in stating that. BSN is where the most unhappy about change are located because it is the home of the very product that is being released and that is ME3.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Alex06 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

In the other topic, someone replied to me that there is an offline Origin mode. but to do that, you need to start Origin and first be connected to the internet to log in. Offline mode is merely "appearing as offline", from what I've noticed. You're not REALLY offline. You still need an internet connection, which contradicts the "No internet connection required beyond the install authentification".

So I don't see why Origin will be required to constantly run so that you can play Mass Effect single player.

I'll also add that I care little for trying to push social features and social monitoring through to gamers. I want to play my games alone, even when I'm on vacation and no internet connection is available. Nothing's going to change my mind on that.

Why do you think they want you online? 

So they can tell their shareholders they're "doing something" about piracy (which is a lie, as everyone with even meager sense knows that DRM and other measures do nothing to stop piracy.  PS -- DON'T PIRATE).

So they can mine as much data as possible from your computer.

So they can monitor your gaming habits.

So they can make sure you're not "cheating" in a single-player game.  (Which includes stopping mods.)

So they can push advertising to your desktop.

So they can try to capture your "digital download" business.

All those are valid reasons, yet I do not give a single ounce of interest for them. Sorry. I'm very impartial (and kind of known to be a jerk) when it comes to my privacy and gaming.

I agree with you, and in fact I do NOT consider them valid reasons.  They can either sell me their product and leave me be to use it, or not.  I will not be held hostage by a damn game. 

I just listed them off to make sure that others understand what's really going on here.

[photographerleia]

Chris Priestly wrote...

<snip>

The more people post "I hate Origin, no game for me, etc" instead of asking questions, the mroe time it is going to take before I can even get around to asking the questions.

This will not stop people from posting their opinions, but it will delay me in getting your answers.

True, but please keep in mind that "I hate Origin, no game for me, etc"  IS the issue here.

Modifié par photographerleia, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:18 .

[Fredvdp]

slimgrin wrote...

So uhm, when will the toolkit come out for modders? You know, like the one you guys did for Dragon Age?

Off topic and they already said that won't be possible because of the complexity (they can't run the tool on just one PC) and third party tools they can't legally distribute.

[Killjoy Cutter]

slimgrin wrote...

So uhm, when will the toolkit come out for modders? You know, like the one you guys did for Dragon Age?

I'm 99% certain we'll never see a toolkit for another game published under EA.  It gives the customer some actual control over the product they purchased and threatens EA's content monopoly for the games.

[Alex06]

Fredvdp wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

So uhm, when will the toolkit come out for modders? You know, like the one you guys did for Dragon Age?

Off topic and they already said that won't be possible because of the complexity (they can't run the tool on just one PC) and third party tools they can't legally distribute.

Sounds odd, because the game is using Unreal Engine 3...

Anyways, back on topic, lest we have this topic closed, too.

[jtav]

Will Origin affect our ability to mod our singleplayer saves the way we do with the first two games?