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Will Origin affect our ability to mod our singleplayer saves the way we do with the first two games?


Don't think so. I edited my savegame to pick choices for file ME2 using Gibbed and Origin had no effect then I do not see why it would change for ME3.


Savegame edits are not the only mods.  See also, changing the ini files to alter how the weapons work, which loadouts squadies can carry, etc.  Such mods drastically increase the replayability of the game. 

Given the combination of Origin and MP, I highly doubt that ME3 will ship without anti-"cheating" measures that will make altering files significantly more challenging. 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:27 .


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The main question I want answered is "What does Origin add to the Mass Effect 3 single-player experience?" If the answer is "none" it means you're doing it wrong.


absolutely nothing! EA just wants you on their platform hopeing that you buy stuf. I rather do this on steam, knowing that steam has more then 10 years of maintenance and development in it. Origin today is still a instable beta application.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

Please use this thread to continue to ask your questions about Mass Effect 3 and Origin.

Please remember:[list=1][*]Mass Effect 3 WILL require Origin for all PC editions, both physical and digital. This will not change.

I guess you are right there are no more questions to be asked. I feel like you are forcing me to choose between installing a piece of software that will collect and send informations I do not wish to give up(And dont say it won't, perhaps it will not for your game but it will overall). And purchasing a game I would like to purchase.
Well, as I said there is no more questions. 
Pitty, was really looking forward to the game.

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Alex06 wrote...

Origin offline mode, like Steam's, is merely a glorified "Appear Offline" feature. You still need an active internet connection, because you have to log in to your account to activate it.


No, it's not.  You can completely block all of its traffic, and it will just throw up a dialog and then continue running.

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Ryzaki wrote...

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Will Origin affect our ability to mod our singleplayer saves the way we do with the first two games?


I'd bet my left nut it will, which is why I brought it up. I hardly own a game I don't apply mods to.


My mods mostly consist of giving SHep different color armor than the vanilla game gives him so...


Trust me there are more mods out there than that, mods that include drastic gameplay alterations. Mods are an important connection between the game makers and the community. Bethesda certainly knows this. Anyway, it is somewhat off topic so I'm done.

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Erawiob wrote...


The main question I want answered is "What does Origin add to the Mass Effect 3 single-player experience?" If the answer is "none" it means you're doing it wrong.


absolutely nothing! EA just wants you on their platform hopeing that you buy stuf. I rather do this on steam, knowing that steam has more then 10 years of maintenance and development in it. Origin today is still a instable beta application.


Too bad for them that they're LOSING any sales to me buy doing this.  I want to buy ME3 and DLC for it, but I literally cannot so long as Origin is involved.  What they had for ME2, DA:O, and DA2, worked fine.  I bought physical copies, and bought and downloaded the DLC from the links on BSN. 

EA, LET ME GIVE YOU MY MONEY FOR YOUR PRODUCT, DAMNIT!

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

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Will Origin affect our ability to mod our singleplayer saves the way we do with the first two games?

No.



Don't count on that "no" being true.

hella rude tbh.

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I don't know if it was answered but here is my question :

If we install origin, then ME3, then delete origin after ME3 is identified, will i be able to launch ME3 and play without origin running ?

Also, Mr Priestley :

6) I’ve seen reports that Origin is spyware. Is this true?
Origin is not spyware, and does not use or install spyware on user’s machines. In order to allow Origin to install games and their patches for everyone to use, Origin implements a permission change that results in Windows, not Origin, reviewing the filenames in the ProgramData/Origin folder. This is an ordinary Windows function, not an information-gathering process.


In my books it is still a spyware, because origin force the collecting data (not precisly wich data) and there is no means to turn it off. The thing is, accept to be spyed or never play the game on this platforme, wich is unfair for a years Bioware game collectioner like me and many of us.

Last, for the people, when it says you can turn off collecting data from ME3, this kind of data is used to make statistic about how % play women / man shep, classes, number of playthrough etc, this is not the collecting data from origin client, tuning off ME3 collecting data won't protect your privacy from origin.
I think it should be clearly said to avoid misunderstanding (not saying Bioware try to confuse us).

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I highly doubt that ME3 will ship without anti-"cheating" measures that will make altering files significantly more challenging.

Well, it would be welcome if those measures were less non-existent than in SWTOR

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Chris Priestly wrote...

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So Chris, what about our questions?


I have many pages of the last thread to read to gather all the questions. The more people post "I hate Origin, no game for me, etc" instead of asking questions, the mroe time it is going to take before I can even get around to asking the questions.

This will not stop people from posting their opinions, but it will delay me in getting your answers.




:devil:

All the most pressing questions are now on the first 5 pages of this thread. Just compile them from here.

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The question about whether or not we have to have Origin installed and running after we authenticate the game for SP was aked early and often in the other thread, and early and often in this one.  Can we please have an answer?


Please, use your innate common sense. Of course you do. Give one reason why you wouldn't.


2) Is constant Origin connection requiredor is it a single one off authentication when the game is first
installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?


Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the
number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.


Because my innate common sense tells me that the answer to this question would have been constant connection is required for all versions of ME3 if that were the case.

Since it wasn't I would like specifics.  Is SP an offline mode Origin running, or not needed to run.



He's talking about internet. You only need the initial internet connection. Just like Steam. But you need to be connected to Origin, still.

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IsaacShep wrote...
All the most pressing questions are now on the first 5 pages of this thread. Just compile them from here. 


Yep. No need to go back to the old thread.

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Origin offline mode, like Steam's, is merely a glorified "Appear Offline" feature. You still need an active internet connection, because you have to log in to your account to activate it.


No, it's not.  You can completely block all of its traffic, and it will just throw up a dialog and then continue running.

How can I do that, then?

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This is the most disappointing news I've heard in a while. I own over 200 games on Steam and I already own Mass Effect 1 and 2. I would buy Mass Effect 3 the first day for however much money you charge for it if it was on Steam. On Origin however, I refuse to switch to an inferior download client that may or may not be spyware. I don't know why EA and BioWare have shot themselves in the foot by not selling Mass Effect 3 on the biggest online platform on PC.

If the DLC thing is the issue, why not sell keys to the DLC through Steam that you copy and paste on to your BioWare accounts (like with Mass Effect 2's DLC). Then EA can still keep their model going, and Steam can sell the DLC. It's a very easy solution if EA wasn't so greedy. I'd absolutely love to play your game and see the conclusion of my Shepard's story (I've played the first 2 around 10 times), but I refuse to use Origin. R.I.P. BioWare, it was nice playing your games.

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Am I the only one here who was at first apprehensive of this, but after seeing the facts, and hearing both sides, has accepted the change?
It can't be that bad, surely. We're shooting at a target that can't be killed, and I honestly don't think it's as apocalyptic as everyone's saying.

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

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Alright people lay off the Origin hate for a bit so Chris can get through these questions more efficiently.

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How can I do that, then?


Go to your Windows Firewall, and block the Origins connection. Or physically unplug your computer/disconnect from wireless.

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Alex06 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

Origin offline mode, like Steam's, is merely a glorified "Appear Offline" feature. You still need an active internet connection, because you have to log in to your account to activate it.


No, it's not.  You can completely block all of its traffic, and it will just throw up a dialog and then continue running.

How can I do that, then?


Consult your firewall's help file?  Or get a firewall.  Or, easiest of all: just put Origin into offline mode, because it's the same exact result.

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Alex06 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

Origin offline mode, like Steam's, is merely a glorified "Appear Offline" feature. You still need an active internet connection, because you have to log in to your account to activate it.


No, it's not.  You can completely block all of its traffic, and it will just throw up a dialog and then continue running.

How can I do that, then?

Turn of the modem and or disable any connection between the PC and the internet ? Both Origin and Steam start and work just fine in Offline mode without any connection to the internet.

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Alex06 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

Origin offline mode, like Steam's, is merely a glorified "Appear Offline" feature. You still need an active internet connection, because you have to log in to your account to activate it.


No, it's not.  You can completely block all of its traffic, and it will just throw up a dialog and then continue running.

How can I do that, then?


They already said and would be silly to assume otherwise that you will have to connect to the internet to "activate" ME3.

But after which you do not have to be connected to the internet to play it though will need it still installed to launch the game.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:35 .


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Epsilon330 wrote...

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

Seriously? Accepting EA-imposed software is a test of a true BioWare fan?

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Alright people lay off the Origin hate for a bit so Chris can get through these questions more efficiently.


That has nothing to do with it. That question came up several dozen times in the previous thread, so it's clearly obvious that it needs to be answered. They're waiting for BSN to die down (for people to leave) before they post the answer.

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TheJiveDJ wrote...

Alright people lay off the Origin hate for a bit so Chris can get through these questions more efficiently.

Like I said, all the most pressing and repeating Origin questions are now on the first 5 pages of this thread. Sorry, but this underlying "if you post against Origin answers will take longer" thing is just...

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Epsilon330 wrote...

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.


So im not a true fan even if i have just about 100 hours in both ME games yet my rather strong principles prevent me from buying the third at this point?
You call it accepting an inconveniance. I call it selling out.

Modifié par Alpha Bootis, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:39 .