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#1701
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didymos1120 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Hey, check this out:

http://openorigin.sourceforge.net/

Being worked on by an EA dev.


What does it do?


Nothing yet.  It'll be an open-source replacement for Origin when he gets done with it.

Have bookmarked it, definately worth watching, thanks for the links.

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Why are you making this about Steam instead of Origins. Steam earned the right to do that. There program is solid. It's not buggy, they haven't spied on me before.

Origins is unfinished, it shouldn't even be released yet.
Btw, Keep dancing around the Origins issue. It's cute.


Nobody "earned" the right to sit on my computer for no reason. Origin, OR Steam. Steam provides nothing for me. Origin provides nothing for me. I dislike Origin. I dislike Steam.

There you go, no dancing.


Just to make sure you see this.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Daeel wrote...

Why are you making this about Steam instead of Origins. Steam earned the right to do that. There program is solid. It's not buggy, they haven't spied on me before.

Origins is unfinished, it shouldn't even be released yet.
Btw, Keep dancing around the Origins issue. It's cute.


Nobody "earned" the right to sit on my computer for no reason. Origin, OR Steam. Steam provides nothing for me. Origin provides nothing for me. I dislike Origin. I dislike Steam.

There you go, no dancing.


fair enough. Why did you purchase the game. Did you know Skyrim required steam?

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Daeel wrote...

Why are you making this about Steam instead of Origins. Steam earned the right to do that. There program is solid. It's not buggy, they haven't spied on me before.

Origins is unfinished, it shouldn't even be released yet.
Btw, Keep dancing around the Origins issue. It's cute.


Nobody "earned" the right to sit on my computer for no reason. Origin, OR Steam. Steam provides nothing for me. Origin provides nothing for me. I dislike Origin. I dislike Steam.

There you go, no dancing.


Just to make sure you see this.


It was only 5 minutes bro. I get it, you think you made a good point. I've already responded.

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tishyw wrote...

Have bookmarked it, definately worth watching, thanks for the links.

Same. And it's official right, since it's by EA? We need this done before ME3 is here :police::police::police:

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fair enough. Why did you purchase the game. Did you know Skyrim required steam?


I did know. And it disappointed me, but I didn't consider it a big enough deal to not get such a game over.

I remember when Just Cause 2 came out. I really really wanted that game. But I had no idea about Steam. I bought it, and when I took it home and found out about Steam, I returned it.

 I think it was worth it for Skyrim, though.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Steam is ok however and I especially like how it tells me how many hours played titles even if it thinks for god knows what reason that I completed apparently DE:HR in 5 hours played time... Still haven't figured where it pulled that magical number from.


I wouldn't be so sure. I once played New Vegas for 6 hours (almost like one Liverpool FC fan told - "it's not my game, it's my religion") - my Fallout saves told me, Steam reported me that I played... 15 minutes. Hey, that's great! Just imagine:
- Rudy, dear, you again played your New Vegas whole night long?
- No darlin, look at Steam, just 15 minutes, wanted to tests something.
- Oh, poor thing, you got your insomnia again?Posted Image

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ME2 on insanity, your better than me.


Truth be told, it was easier to play than on Casual. Maybe because I was more concentrated, I don't know - had something similar while I was teenager and played hockey with adults.
Well, I imported "fresh" Shepard (60 Lvl from ME1, not so fresh, I know:)), choose Kasumi flashbang (but didn't use it) and had firepower pack. Or whatever - Phalanx, Geth plasma shotgun and Mattock. Inferno ammo power for most of game, Widow as option. Had only 3 problems (besides usual "glued to wall" and "walking the air") - 7-8 Vents on collector's base entry, final fight (because my partners cannot follow one simple command "STAND THERE") - I wasted all medigel on them and CPB on collectors), plus Object Rho. 5 wavesPosted Image.

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But once read you liked the Mako I think you just made me happy that wasn't just me.


I really don't understand why so many people hates it. So controllable Practically dancing. And it's climbing abilities! Slow a bit, yes. But the slower you are - the farther you'll get.:)

Dragoonlordz wrote...

lol your a novice compared to the master however on walls of text, click on my DA2 review link bottom of signature if you want to see a pro in action. :whistle:


For some of us more than 10 strings=wall of text.:)
Plus, English is not my native language (or mother tongue, like some tommies "corrects" me:))Posted Image

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BUT do NOT read it as does contains spoilers if you haven't completed the game yet, just scroll down page glancing rather than reading.


Thanks for warning. I won't.

Dragoonlordz wrote...

P.s. The Hampster is epic without doubt, fish on the other hand never lived long. I blame Kelly though in reality was more my fault.


Like I said - future, FTL drives, uber weapons, nuclear powered hamster, but no fish food dispenser (Kelly doesn't count as one)?

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Same. And it's official right, since it's by EA? We need this done before ME3 is here :police::police::police:


This just might be the thing that could not only make Origin bearable, but enable both sides to come to a satisfactory conclusion to all this hoo hah.

Modifié par IliyaMoroumetz, 18 janvier 2012 - 06:18 .


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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

IsaacShep wrote..
Same. And it's official right, since it's by EA? We need this done before ME3 is here :police::police::police:


This just might be the thing that could not only make Origin bearable, but enable both sides to come to a satisfactory conclusion to all this hoo hah.

I knew good devs from EA would come to the rescue :wub:

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

IsaacShep wrote..
Same. And it's official right, since it's by EA? We need this done before ME3 is here :police::police::police:


This just might be the thing that could not only make Origin bearable, but enable both sides to come to a satisfactory conclusion to all this hoo hah.


Crossing my fingers on that.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Daeel wrote...

fair enough. Why did you purchase the game. Did you know Skyrim required steam?


I did know. And it disappointed me, but I didn't consider it a big enough deal to not get such a game over.

I remember when Just Cause 2 came out. I really really wanted that game. But I had no idea about Steam. I bought it, and when I took it home and found out about Steam, I returned it.

 I think it was worth it for Skyrim, though.


Then you give up your right to complain about Skyrim.

I will not buy ME3 under it's current state.

I however do think there is a difference, though I still do not approve of steam requiring it to be installed to play the game. Atleast the product is finished and a pretty good product to boot. Origins has yet to convince me that it's a good product. Hell, it's done the exact opposite. I can't in good faith use it, so I boycott. How is this irrational or hypocritical?

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Then you give up your right to complain about Skyrim.

I will not buy ME3 under it's current state.

I however do think there is a difference, though I still do not approve of steam requiring it to be installed to play the game. Atleast the product is finished and a pretty good product to boot. Origins has yet to convince me that it's a good product. Hell, it's done the exact opposite. I can't in good faith use it, so I boycott. How is this irrational or hypocritical?


I'm not really complaining about Skyrim. I'm merely saying it's a comparable point of contention to Origin.

What you're saying is not irrational or hypocritical. However, someone else (who I was speaking to initally) was defending things in Steam that are the SAME in Origin.

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A bigger deal for me than origin is the always on connection requirement. That's a total deal breaker, as I do most of my gaming at 30,000 feet or in hotel rooms when on the road.

I'm skipping diablo 3 for the same reason. Hey bio ware, not everyone is always logged on via broadband.

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IsaacShep wrote...
I knew good devs from EA would come to the rescue :wub:


I need to keep reminding myself that the 'developers' and the 'decision makers' at EA are not one in the same.

And yes, Rock, so am I.

Cautiously optimistic is the word of the day, here.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Daeel wrote...

Then you give up your right to complain about Skyrim.

I will not buy ME3 under it's current state.

I however do think there is a difference, though I still do not approve of steam requiring it to be installed to play the game. Atleast the product is finished and a pretty good product to boot. Origins has yet to convince me that it's a good product. Hell, it's done the exact opposite. I can't in good faith use it, so I boycott. How is this irrational or hypocritical?


I'm not really complaining about Skyrim. I'm merely saying it's a comparable point of contention to Origin.

What you're saying is not irrational or hypocritical. However, someone else (who I was speaking to initally) was defending things in Steam that are the SAME in Origin.


If you are talking about Gatts9 there is nothing irrational in his argument. You are linking Origins and Steam because they are digital distributors, the similarities end there. There are many differences between the clients and some of those differences are enough to change people's mind on certain issue. This is not hypocritical.

If i'm against abortion at clinic A because it's fairly new and has in the past proven to be unsafe but at clinic b I'm fine with it because it's safer, has years of good will and I'm familiar with it. Then there is no hypocrisisy in that. 

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dlhotka wrote...

A bigger deal for me than origin is the always on connection requirement. That's a total deal breaker, as I do most of my gaming at 30,000 feet or in hotel rooms when on the road.

I'm skipping diablo 3 for the same reason. Hey bio ware, not everyone is always logged on via broadband.


No it is not. There's an offline mode.

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dlhotka wrote...

A bigger deal for me than origin is the always on connection requirement. That's a total deal breaker, as I do most of my gaming at 30,000 feet or in hotel rooms when on the road.

I'm skipping diablo 3 for the same reason. Hey bio ware, not everyone is always logged on via broadband.


You'll be able to play ME3 in offline mode for single player.

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dlhotka wrote...

A bigger deal for me than origin is the always on connection requirement. That's a total deal breaker, as I do most of my gaming at 30,000 feet or in hotel rooms when on the road.

I'm skipping diablo 3 for the same reason. Hey bio ware, not everyone is always logged on via broadband.


Origin appears to have an offline mode similar to Steam. If I run Origin without an internet connection, it opens automagically in offline mode. This seems to indicate that ME3 can be run in single player mode without a connection to broadband.

Threepeat.

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If you are talking about Gatts9 there is nothing irrational in his argument. You are linking Origins and Steam because they are digital distributors, the similarities end there. There are many differences between the clients and some of those differences are enough to change people's mind on certain issue. This is not hypocritical.

If i'm against abortion at clinic A because it's fairly new and has in the past proven to be unsafe but at clinic b I'm fine with it because it's safer, has years of good will and I'm familiar with it. Then there is no hypocrisisy in that. 


Someone else mentioned problems they had with Steam, and he said,

You can disable it on the startup programs list. Same for Origin.

It only takes up "100mb" or something close to that. Our only person who seems to have tried Origin says the same for it.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Daeel wrote...

If you are talking about Gatts9 there is nothing irrational in his argument. You are linking Origins and Steam because they are digital distributors, the similarities end there. There are many differences between the clients and some of those differences are enough to change people's mind on certain issue. This is not hypocritical.

If i'm against abortion at clinic A because it's fairly new and has in the past proven to be unsafe but at clinic b I'm fine with it because it's safer, has years of good will and I'm familiar with it. Then there is no hypocrisisy in that. 


Someone else mentioned problems they had with Steam, and he said,

You can disable it on the startup programs list. Same for Origin.

It only takes up "100mb" or something close to that. Our only person who seems to have tried Origin says the same for it.

Well whatever. I'm not about to defend someone who's perfectly capable of doing it theirselves.

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Anyway, back on topic.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...
Get over yourself seriously now. This is NOT a thread for only those who HATE Origin or HATE Origin+ME3. This is a thread about information pertaining to Origin and ME3 not your little playground of rage. It contains information for customers whether pro or against Origin so stop treating it like people who do not hate Origin have no right to read and listen and debate about what each and everyone will be receiving.


You are the one who should get over themselves. This is not a thread for you to come in, gushing like a Beiber fangirl, and defending EA's antics and poor business decisions by saying you dont care one bit about your privacy, and because you dont, everyone else should get over it and embrace EA as their lord and master. Ive said it before, and will say it agani. You have all the appearance of an EA shill, and because you are hiding behind a "just a simple gamer" account, it means your opinions are worth less than what I scraped off the sole of my shoe this morning.

This is a thread for people with questions about Origin and ME3, to ask the devs/mods questions about it, and get answers from them. Your poor understanding of the legal nuances within the EULA, and deliberate attempts to mislead through obfuscation is actually creating more headaches for the mods. People end up arguing against your invalid points, and faulty logic, instead of thinking of legitimate questions and arguments to put to the mods.

Instigating more rage by insulting other forumites by claiming they have "litle minds"  simply proves that you are running out of rational arguments, and now that you realise this, you resort to the Smudboy school of debating.

Youve heard of the saying "an actor is only as good as his/her last performance"? Origin's last performance involved data mining, and an EULA so dodgy it had the Mafia wondering why they get picked on so much when crap like that is legal. EA got pilloried over it, and have allegedly changed it so it no longer datamines your PC, but they have left the EULA giving them the rights to do so in the exact same form, with the one execption of in Germany.
Any sane, rational company would go along, and make the worldwide version of Origin and EULA the same as the one that is available in the country atht kicked up the biggest stink over the matter, and any hassles they are facing because of it, would very quickly fade.

So, Chris and Stanley, I raise this question once again.

Why do you (EA/Bioware) not make this entire problem go away by making the worldwide version of Origin and its EULA the same as the German version? Its logical, rational, and makes good business sense. It would then reduce the amount of problems faced from 3 (Pro-Privacy, Anti-DD, and Pro Steam), to 2 (Anti-DD and Pro Steam).

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CenturyCrow wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Hey, check this out:

http://openorigin.sourceforge.net/

Being worked on by an EA dev.

Ironic, since Origin software is freeware, but this is a case where people would pay not to have to install it.

Baffling to see EA on an open source page and what would this do that the current version (that nobody wants) do?


At a rough guess, I will say that this version is for Linux based systems, as its no longer cool to discrimatre against the penguin.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I think it was worth it for Skyrim, though.


Was is worth it?
No pun/fun intended, just asking your opinion.

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It only takes up "100mb" or something close to that. Our only person who seems to have tried Origin says the same for it.


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You know you can remove Steam from the startup routine right?  And just launch it when you want to play something?


Yeah; the only issue I ever really had was Steam constantly trying to get updates whenever I wanted to launch something. 

As far as what they told us,  Piracy control with the benefit to the consumer being an online digital distribution service with perpetual storage of your purchases.   Steam never pretended to be anything else,  and Steam always offered alternatives,  like Opt-Outs,  and the ability to use it as a digital CD check.


What is Origin pretending to be these days, anyway?