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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 16 janvier 2012 - 09:16 .

[Alex06]

Wittand25 wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Alex06 wrote...

Origin offline mode, like Steam's, is merely a glorified "Appear Offline" feature. You still need an active internet connection, because you have to log in to your account to activate it.

No, it's not.  You can completely block all of its traffic, and it will just throw up a dialog and then continue running.

How can I do that, then?

Turn of the modem and or disable any connection between the PC and the internet ? Both Origin and Steam start and work just fine in Offline mode without any connection to the internet.

But then what's the point of running Origin? It's exactly the same as a disc check, and to be honest, a disc check is much more simpler and quick...Why can't they let us just put a MassEffect3.exe shortcut on our desktop and run the game that way, without Origin running the background?

Because ultimately it's the same, but it's just longer, more stressful and uses up more ram than it all really should.

Modifié par Alex06, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:40 .

[photographerleia]

IsaacShep wrote...

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Alright people lay off the Origin hate for a bit so Chris can get through these questions more efficiently.

Like I said, all the most pressing and repeating Origin questions are now on the first 5 pages of this thread. Sorry, but this underlying "if you post against Origin answers will take longer" thing is just...

... insulting to our intellegence and devalues our genuine concerns.

[casadechrisso]

Epsilon330 wrote...

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

That's the exact reason why they always get away with things like that. And my devotion to Bioware has already been tested enough by the last two games and how certain things changed since EA took over. I would've liked to see the final of the Mass Effect saga simply because I played 1 and 2 already, but really, they have half lost me already, and I still have a lot of games from the last.... *cough*... Steam sale to play. A loss, but no drama.
As long as I see a light on the horizon though, I'll still try to get my last ME fix.

[Aaleel]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

The question about whether or not we have to have Origin installed and running after we authenticate the game for SP was aked early and often in the other thread, and early and often in this one.  Can we please have an answer?

Please, use your innate common sense. Of course you do. Give one reason why you wouldn't.

2) Is constant Origin connection requiredor is it a single one off authentication when the game is first
installed. Is there also a limit to the number of installations available?

Mass Effect 3 will require a one time, single authorization for the single player game. There is no limit to the
number of installs. Playing Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer will require a constant connection.

Because my innate common sense tells me that the answer to this question would have been constant connection is required for all versions of ME3 if that were the case.

Since it wasn't I would like specifics.  Is SP an offline mode Origin running, or not needed to run.

He's talking about internet. You only need the initial internet connection. Just like Steam. But you need to be connected to Origin, still.

I don't have a Steam gaming library so saying it's like Steam means nothing to me.  Which is why I need specifics on how this is going to work.

[theycallmeryan]

Epsilon330 wrote...

Am I the only one here who was at first apprehensive of this, but after seeing the facts, and hearing both sides, has accepted the change?
It can't be that bad, surely. We're shooting at a target that can't be killed, and I honestly don't think it's as apocalyptic as everyone's saying.

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

I'm a true fan, I've bought KotOR twice, Mass Effect twice, Mass Effect 2 three times, Dragon Age: Origins twice, and Dragon Age 2. That being said, I will not buy Mass Effect 3. I will not support Origin. I want the game on Steam, even if it requires an Origin account and for me to buy the DLC through Origin/this website. I own over 200 games on Steam, and I want to own Mass Effect 3 on Steam. I didn't think that was too much to ask. I would rather not finish the saga than buy it through Origin.

[Chris Priestly]

IsaacShep wrote...
All the most pressing questions are now on the first 5 pages of this thread. Just compile them from here.

All your most pressing ones are. And they are among all of them. I do not want to miss any. Also, it took weeks to get the accurate responses that I posted on Friday. I will continue working on answers, but I am not promising how long it will take to get them.

[ttchip]

sudden images of gollum make me smirk whenever i read another "i have all my games on steam"-outcry.

[Wardka]

Epsilon330 wrote...

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

Nonsense. This isn't some sort of trial you have to pass to prove you are a "true" BioWare fan. I own every single BioWare game except Shattered Steel and the Sonic game, with multiple copies of many. I've been as "true" a fan as they could ever wish for. But now they're stepping on my rights as a consumer, so I'm not buying their games anymore.

[Kandid001]

Will people lose access to Origin games (obviously ME3 in this case) if EA simply decides to pull the plug on Origin in the future? How about the DLC and other exclusive crap attached to the profiles? Honestly I cannot imagine Origin evolving into a convenient digital service like Steam in the near future, as long as EA is involved.

[Pcmag1]

Epsilon330 wrote...

Am I the only one here who was at first apprehensive of this, but after seeing the facts, and hearing both sides, has accepted the change?
It can't be that bad, surely. We're shooting at a target that can't be killed, and I honestly don't think it's as apocalyptic as everyone's saying.

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

Realy? What changed your mind?
No it is not apocalyptic, but it is a MAJOR inconvinience.
Devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect? - Well when someone takes a dump on me I might actually question my devotion to said person/company.

[Alex06]

Chris Priestly wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
All the most pressing questions are now on the first 5 pages of this thread. Just compile them from here.

All your most pressing ones are. And they are among all of them. I do not want to miss any. Also, it took weeks to get the accurate responses that I posted on Friday. I will continue working on answers, but I am not promising how long it will take to get them.

Thank you, for doing this for us all.

[Dragoonlordz]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Alright people lay off the Origin hate for a bit so Chris can get through these questions more efficiently.

That has nothing to do with it. That question came up several dozen times in the previous thread, so it's clearly obvious that it needs to be answered. They're waiting for BSN to die down before they post the answer.

In the end the ones who are yelling about the no client or no purchase already got their answer pure and simple and upfront on first page. Even used caps to tell them ME3 "WILL" come with Origin and that 'will not' change. So if they are asking about that aspect they already have their answer. The ones who to me are more important at this stage with possible unanswered questions are those who realise the reality of what has already been answered and are askng more along the lines "given x or y has been confirmed and will not change, how will or does the client work, what does it do, how does this compare to other similar clients". Those are the only ones asking questions that will herald answers imho.  

Maybe Chris will have different opinion but thats my opinion on it regarding sort of questions left to be answered.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:43 .

[Bogsnot1]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Relaunching teh thread. This version is closed.

Please use the new thread to continue asking questions about Origin.



LOCKDOWN!

So, will we actually get answers in this thread, or are we once again just rattling the bars of our cages?

Also, do the powers that be realise what a bunch of idiots they are being, and that their actions will result not only in lost sales, as well as increased amounts of piracy from those eager to both see an end to the trilogy, and are keen to protect their privacy?

Do they realise that the risk of dodgy russian malware is a more attractive prospect than their "Origin is not spyware" snoopware?

[Alex06]

Another weird thing is how EA representatives keep arguing that Steam is limiting the way they can push updates to users...Why is that a problem that warrants forcing everyone to use Origin? Why can't they just push updates through the game's launcher program, like Mass Effect 2 and Star Wars: The Old Republic did? That seems to work fine for everyone.

Modifié par Alex06, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:44 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Yes, I quite agree that all those unwilling to hand complete control over to EA should just get over it.

[shepskisaac]

Chris Priestly wrote...

All your most pressing ones are.

Not just mine. Even on the first page itself people are repeating my questions since these ARE most pressing questions to the majority of players.

Chris Priestly wrote..
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Also, it took weeks to get the accurate responses that I posted on Friday.

What does it say about Origin and Origin/EA support team if it even takes weeks to get answers WITHIN Electronic Arts?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:45 .

[Wardka]

Chris Priestly wrote...
All your most pressing ones are. And they are among all of them. I do not want to miss any. Also, it took weeks to get the accurate responses that I posted on Friday. I will continue working on answers, but I am not promising how long it will take to get them.

But we asked months ago! *cough*

I think my number one question is:

You said "We are intent on providing Mass Effect to players with the best possible experience no matter where they purchase or play their game", but what does Origin provide that improves my experience? My best possible experience would be to play the game without Origin. What could it possibly offer me to change my mind?

[Epsilon330]

theycallmeryan wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

Am I the only one here who was at first apprehensive of this, but after seeing the facts, and hearing both sides, has accepted the change?
It can't be that bad, surely. We're shooting at a target that can't be killed, and I honestly don't think it's as apocalyptic as everyone's saying.

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

I'm a true fan, I've bought KotOR twice, Mass Effect twice, Mass Effect 2 three times, Dragon Age: Origins twice, and Dragon Age 2. That being said, I will not buy Mass Effect 3. I will not support Origin. I want the game on Steam, even if it requires an Origin account and for me to buy the DLC through Origin/this website. I own over 200 games on Steam, and I want to own Mass Effect 3 on Steam. I didn't think that was too much to ask. I would rather not finish the saga than buy it through Origin.

I was first introduced to ME2 by Steam, and then bought ME1 through it as well. When I first heard about the Origin fiasco, I was as mortified as everyone else. I even remember sending a message to Chris regarding the whole situation, and how it was a "mistake" and all mid last-year.
But thinking about it now, is it honestly bad enough that people are going to miss out on the potentially biggest game of the year? I've seen plenty of reports from Origin-users who have had no ill-effects.

[photographerleia]

Kandid001 wrote...

Will people lose access to Origin games (obviously ME3 in this case) if EA simply decides to pull the plug on Origin in the future? How about the DLC and other exclusive crap attached to the profiles? Honestly I cannot imagine Origin evolving into a convenient digital service like Steam in the near future, as long as EA is involved.

This is a very valid question.  The longevity of playability post-Origin's existence is extremely important.  

[Elbaliavas]

Can someone tell where the Mass Effect 3 on Steam thread is? Chris is locking down every damn thread related to Steam with the instruction to use the existing thread

and here you the real face of a bioware employee. GG Chris, closing al the steam related topic. What are you afraid of? What do you have to hide?

[_Guy_Fawkes_]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

_Guy_Fawkes_ wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...



From IsaacShep:

To Chris Priestly

1) If we do not intend to use multiplayer, can we uninstall Origin after completing one time single authorization for the single player game?

2) Also, will I have to install Origin EVERY TIME I install Mass Effect 3, or after one time single authorization I will no longer have to install Origin ever again?

I pretty much followed all of the first, now closed, ME3 & Origin thread and these are questions quite a lot of your potential customers are interested in.
*snip*

Stop asking this. The answer is yes, you have to have it installed. Why would you think differently? Still have some kind of faith in EA?

Think of it as the equivalent to Steam. If you have ME3, you have to have Origin.

Ok ok, I have to admit that I was too lazy to dig out the exact posting I had in mind and wanted to quote (from the previous ME3 & Origin thread).

I well understood that EA is going to force Origin upon those customers, playing on the PC platform, willing to bite that bullet, accept that EULA, be ok with the fact that it's still collecting information like IP and _MAC_ (! - lol, no this does not really have anything to do with that fruit brand company) addresses, that you have to install Origin to validate and register your copy of ME3 (be it some silly digital download or from a DVD) and that you can play off-line if one intends to play single-player only.

Yes, I really read all those threads/posts + additional external sources, as I would REALLY like to buy that game, because if I ask myself how many hours of entertainment I had playing ME1 & ME2 for the money I invested, to me it was a fine deal.

BUT there is NO way, that I am going to add Origin to my Windows installation. I don't use Facebook, Twitter, customer loyalty cards, Google mail and their other "goodies", Apple products or products by companies witha a similar business policy, Steam and services alike. I value, cherish and defend my privacy as much as possible and am weighing the pros and cons.And to me Origin is beyond of what I am willing to do.
I guess my problem is that I personally remember the days when you plugged a cartridge into an Atari 2600, witnessed copy protection methods like having to have my game manual at hand, then having to have disks, later on CD's/DVD's in your drive. It became worse and worse for the customer. Yes, I do see how increasing  on-line bandwidths played a role in that, I am not ignoring that. Now if a company wants to protect their products by these mechanisms - fine - but please, do they really have to sniff around my PC?

Yes, I am also aware of the fact, that in it's current verion Origin had been tamed to some degree and does not nose around as excessively as it did in the beginning, but to me having to have such an additional client installed is a no-go. And Steam is no different to me. It could be observed that other mechanisms are available to protect their products, geez, they could even offer phone activation like Microsoft does, have the serial number checked on-line.

But no, this Origin is solely about increasing their revenue. Comb through things I do not want to share - why on Earth should I let them know which MAC address my network adapter has?! Profiling, control, you name it - it's all of that. Why no Steam anymore? I couldn't care less, but from what I have read it's about taking out the middleman with regard to their sale of DLC's. Doesn't bother me, as I don't intend to become a Steam customer either. Drying out the used games market by introducing on-line passes; these companies have turned into blood suckers. 

Enough is enough! And those of you who are fine with everything, for as long as you can play a friggin' computer game (lol, which I would've liked to buy&play as well BUT under different conditions), let's hope it doesn't backfire on us. Those of us who value their privacy, some EULA's that won't change over night some day. But the more people give up their principles and give in to a little change here, a little change there - it all adds up and that's how we came from cartridges to the requirements of EA's beloved Origin.

P.S.: Again, laziness knocked on my door - won't scroll back and check for typos. 
#Edit: ok ok, I added a few blank lines for readability

Modifié par _Guy_Fawkes_, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:46 .

[photographerleia]

Epsilon330 wrote...

But thinking about it now, is it honestly bad enough that people are going to miss out on the potentially biggest game of the year? I've seen plenty of reports from Origin-users who have had no ill-effects.

That is a simple answer.  Yes. It is honestly bad enough to make people like me miss out on the potentially biggest-game of the year.  I am an avid Bioware fan, but I refuse to compromise my stance on this just to play ME3.  As much as I want to play that game, it is more important that I be able to look myself in the mirror and kow that I did not financially support deveolper/publisher irrisponsibility as they play fast and loose with their consumer base.  I would rather take my hard earned money who have maintained my trust and value customer input.

Modifié par photographerleia, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:49 .

[Siegdrifa]

Epsilon330 wrote...

Am I the only one here who was at first apprehensive of this, but after seeing the facts, and hearing both sides, has accepted the change?
It can't be that bad, surely. We're shooting at a target that can't be killed, and I honestly don't think it's as apocalyptic as everyone's saying.

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.

You don't need to search the approval of other to make you feels better, if Origin collecting data i not a problem for or a least less imporant than avoiding ME3, just get it and enjoy your game.
But this is certainely not a test for Bioware devotion ...