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Pcmag1 wrote...

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Am I the only one here who was at first apprehensive of this, but after seeing the facts, and hearing both sides, has accepted the change?
It can't be that bad, surely. We're shooting at a target that can't be killed, and I honestly don't think it's as apocalyptic as everyone's saying.

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.


Realy? What changed your mind?
No it is not apocalyptic, but it is a MAJOR inconvinience.
Devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect? - Well when someone takes a dump on me I might actually question my devotion to said person/company.


Anticipation for ME3 itself. I created my Shepard myself two years ago, and shaped him to my ideas. I'm not going to abandon Commander Adrian Shepard now, just because they've changed platforms. Of course, it will be the only game I ever buy from Origin, but I never even gave it a chance yet.

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Yes, I quite agree that all those unwilling to hand complete control over to EA should just get over it.


Please don't post in this thread then. You're willing to bend over. Good for you.

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Epsilon330 wrote...

But thinking about it now, is it honestly bad enough that people are going to miss out on the potentially biggest game of the year? I've seen plenty of reports from Origin-users who have had no ill-effects.


YES. A big resounding YES.

It doesn't matter how good Mass Effect 3 will be. The quality of the game doesn't matter. They could make the best game in the history of the world - which they won't, mind you - and it still wouldn't convince me it's worth giving up my rights as a consumer for. It's a slippery slope, friend, and I have no intention of leaping down it.

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Elbaliavas wrote...

Can someone tell where the Mass Effect 3 on Steam thread is? Chris is locking down every damn thread related to Steam with the instruction to use the existing thread


and here you the real face of a bioware employee. GG Chris, closing al the steam related topic. What are you afraid of? What do you have to hide?


Don't blame Chris. He's just following orders here.

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Wardka wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.


Nonsense. This isn't some sort of trial you have to pass to prove you are a "true" BioWare fan. I own every single BioWare game except Shattered Steel and the Sonic game, with multiple copies of many. I've been as "true" a fan as they could ever wish for. But now they're stepping on my rights as a consumer, so I'm not buying their games anymore.


Exactly. I've given BioWare so much money over the years, and now I just can't support them anymore. If Mass Effect 3 was on Steam and didn't require Origin (just an Origin account), I would buy it in a heartbeat. But, due to Origin, I will not be purchasing Mass Effect 3, and I know MANY other people will not be either.

Also, EA/BioWare, don't be surprised when Mass Effect 3 is one of the most pirated games of 2012 because a lot of people hate Origin and love Steam.

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slimgrin wrote...

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jtav wrote...

Will Origin affect our ability to mod our singleplayer saves the way we do with the first two games?


I'd bet my left nut it will, which is why I brought it up. I hardly own a game I don't apply mods to.


My mods mostly consist of giving SHep different color armor than the vanilla game gives him so...


Trust me there are more mods out there than that, mods that include drastic gameplay alterations. Mods are an important connection between the game makers and the community. Bethesda certainly knows this. Anyway, it is somewhat off topic so I'm done.


Thus why  I said *mostly*. I didn't drastically alter gameplay (all I did was give Shep's ability a seperate cooldown) but yeah I'm well aware that's not the limit of modding.

Regardless Steam doesn't stop mods (though it does make them a bit of a pain to install) so I don't see why Origin should.

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I just gave him the answer he deserved. Sorry.

Modifié par Maufurtado, 17 janvier 2012 - 11:15 .


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Epsilon330 wrote...

But thinking about it now, is it honestly bad enough that people are going to miss out on the potentially biggest game of the year? I've seen plenty of reports from Origin-users who have had no ill-effects.


*Spaz attack*

Yes! You see thats the entire strategy. Use big-ass titles so people will be forced to use your cruddy product because noone will drop said big-ass title for something seeming irrelevant as a few meg webshop. 
That is ofcourse where they are very very wrong. I just hope im not actually the only one going through with this as i seemed to have been with Battlefield 3, wich i still didn't play because of Origin even considering the fact i would murder to do so as its an epic game.

Modifié par Alpha Bootis, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:52 .


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I have just pre-ordered Mass Effect 3 Collector's edition through GameStation UK.
What exactly do I expect from the in-game content? I've seen some weapons and parts are distributor-specific, and the table on Mass Effect Wikia is fairly confusing.

One other question.

On how many computers can one copy of Mass Effect be installed? Logically it should be only 1, but I did see games that allow up to 5 copies ran at once, so... would suck if I had to shell out another $80 (which is not going to happen) to play co-op with my brother. Which is also assuming my 3 year old laptop with T3200 Intel Processor and nVidia 9300M can play it. Which brings me to third question.

What engine will ME3 be running on? Unreal Engine used so far is fairly flexible, allowing me to play around with various .cfg and .ini settings to make ME2 playable on my forementioned laptop, and nicely playable, at that. Just to know if I am to expect ME3 Co-op LAN parties at my Dorm, which is the single most badass thing that can possibly have any sort of party around it.

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Please cease talk of piracy.  If you decide not to buy the game, like me, then don't buy the game.  If you don't buy it, don't play it.  This kind of talk does no one any good.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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I don't have a Steam gaming library so saying it's like Steam means nothing to me.  Which is why I need specifics on how this is going to work.


You connect to the internet initially. Origin checks copy of ME3, says it's okay. Then, you can disconnect from the internet, but everytime you open up ME3, Origin will start as well, except in the background.


If it's that simple why can they just say that instead of all this I need to gather info and get answers.

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Aaleel wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

I don't have a Steam gaming library so saying it's like Steam means nothing to me.  Which is why I need specifics on how this is going to work.


You connect to the internet initially. Origin checks copy of ME3, says it's okay. Then, you can disconnect from the internet, but everytime you open up ME3, Origin will start as well, except in the background.


If it's that simple why can they just say that instead of all this I need to gather info and get answers.

This.

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Eudaimonium wrote...

On how many computers can one copy of Mass Effect be installed?

Origin has no limitations on number of installation except that you can install the game no more than five times per day, which is more than you'll need. You can install it on any PC you want and any amount of PCs at the same time.

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Eudaimonium wrote...

I have just pre-ordered Mass Effect 3 Collector's edition through GameStation UK.
What exactly do I expect from the in-game content? I've seen some weapons and parts are distributor-specific, and the table on Mass Effect Wikia is fairly confusing.

One other question.

On how many computers can one copy of Mass Effect be installed? Logically it should be only 1, but I did see games that allow up to 5 copies ran at once, so... would suck if I had to shell out another $80 (which is not going to happen) to play co-op with my brother. Which is also assuming my 3 year old laptop with T3200 Intel Processor and nVidia 9300M can play it. Which brings me to third question.

What engine will ME3 be running on? Unreal Engine used so far is fairly flexible, allowing me to play around with various .cfg and .ini settings to make ME2 playable on my forementioned laptop, and nicely playable, at that. Just to know if I am to expect ME3 Co-op LAN parties at my Dorm, which is the single most badass thing that can possibly have any sort of party around it.


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Eudaimonium wrote...

I have just pre-ordered Mass Effect 3 Collector's edition through GameStation UK.
What exactly do I expect from the in-game content? I've seen some weapons and parts are distributor-specific, and the table on Mass Effect Wikia is fairly confusing.


With regard to your first question I hope this helps, though surprised Gamestation didn't list exact contents for you.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
All the most pressing questions are now on the first 5 pages of this thread. Just compile them from here.


All your most pressing ones are. And they are among all of them. I do not want to miss any. Also, it took weeks to get the accurate responses that I posted on Friday. I will continue working on answers, but I am not promising how long it will take to get them.



:devil:


I think by weeks you mean months, but whatever. Seriously, who at Bioware/EA is in charge of this madness? I certainly hope these people carefully deliberated about wether what they gain through Origin will make up for the loss of customer good will and trust. Not likely though.

This just makes sad... Image IPB

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Eudaimonium wrote...


On how many computers can one copy of Mass Effect be installed? Logically it should be only 1, but I did see games that allow up to 5 copies ran at once, so... would suck if I had to shell out another $80 (which is not going to happen) to play co-op with my brother. Which is also assuming my 3 year old laptop with T3200 Intel Processor and nVidia 9300M can play it. Which brings me to third question.


Same as all the other games in the last five years I would think, only on one. That's what CD keys and online activation is FOR.

Aaleel wrote...

If it's that simple why can they just say that instead of all this I need to gather info and get answers.


They're hunkered down in their bunker trying to weather the storm. And they sure aren't going to willingly say you have to have Origin on constantly, given the reaction here.

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theycallmeryan wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

Am I the only one here who was at first apprehensive of this, but after seeing the facts, and hearing both sides, has accepted the change?
It can't be that bad, surely. We're shooting at a target that can't be killed, and I honestly don't think it's as apocalyptic as everyone's saying.

This'll be the definitive test for your devotion to Bioware and Mass Effect. True fans will shrug it off as an inconvenience, but still buy it for the game itself.


I'm a true fan, I've bought KotOR twice, Mass Effect twice, Mass Effect 2 three times, Dragon Age: Origins twice, and Dragon Age 2. That being said, I will not buy Mass Effect 3. I will not support Origin. I want the game on Steam, even if it requires an Origin account and for me to buy the DLC through Origin/this website. I own over 200 games on Steam, and I want to own Mass Effect 3 on Steam. I didn't think that was too much to ask. I would rather not finish the saga than buy it through Origin.

So what is keeping you from adding ME3 to your library? I just tested that I was able to add my Kindle reader I downloaded from Amazon to my Steam library, so there should be very little problems to add ME3.

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Doctalen wrote...

Wardka wrote...

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
So Chris, what about our questions?

let me guess Isaac, he didnt anwser ur  private message?

Honest question: Do they ever answer PMs? Chris has never answered any of mine, so I'm wondering if sending them is a waste of time or not?

He awnsered mine about the demo bounsues 



Chris answered a few of mine n the past


Brennon has answered EVERY pm I ever sent him

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TheRealJayDee wrote...

I think by weeks you mean months, but whatever. Seriously, who at Bioware/EA is in charge of this madness? I certainly hope these people carefully deliberated about wether what they gain through Origin will make up for the loss of customer good will and trust. Not likely though.

This just makes sad... Image IPB


When you think about it and read the ones who are negative about this they never trusted EA to begin with due to past mistakes and they had no goodwill or trust regardless.

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Fredvdp wrote...

Eudaimonium wrote...

On how many computers can one copy of Mass Effect be installed?

Origin has no limitations on number of installation except that you can install the game no more than five times per day, which is more than you'll need. You can install it on any PC you want and any amount of PCs at the same time.


That's... not even a limitation. I will only ever need 2 installations, or maybe even only one if my laptop does not prove adequate, however...

I did not order through Origin, but through GameStation - does that make a difference, or am I missing something in this equation of game distribution?

Thanks for FTL - Speed reply, by the way :)

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Ok, let me ask you (Bioware) a question. Are you really willing to lose customers (and fans) so you can compel the rest of them to install crap software that nobody wants/needs ?

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Edit: Post removed. :devil:

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