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[Shepard the Leper]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

EA isn't the only one killing PC market. Also Activision do it, Bliizard do it, Ubisoft do it. [inappropriate comments removed]

[inappropriate comments removed]

The frustrating thing about this mess is that honest people are faced with a huge dilemma:

Do you buy an awesome game to reward those who created it, or you don't buy the game to send the only message EA understands? You cannot reward the ME dev team for their work without kissing EA butt in the process.

I won't be buying ME3 as long as Origin is required, and I feel sorry for Bioware since they won't be getting any of my money to continue making awesome games. Money I would have considered well spend. 

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 19 janvier 2012 - 06:06 .

[Icinix]

didymos1120 wrote...

Merkar wrote...

Icinix wrote...

For ME2, DAO, DA2, if you didn't log onto EA within the game (no internet etc), any save games wouldn't load with DLC. Any new games you started wouldn't have the DLC until you logged back onto EA within the game.

At least, I never encountered a situation where I could not log on, but still had access to DLC.

Strange... I'm able to play DA:O and ME2 DLC while offline once they are authenticated. That is when I play them from my laptop while on travel and don't have net connection. I usually have my desktop always connected.

Yeah, me neither.  I haven't logged on with ME2 in ages.

Hmm - I'm going to try playing from an internet void computer - let me check.

[Shepard the Leper]

Lumikki wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Merkar wrote...

Icinix wrote...

For ME2, DAO, DA2, if you didn't log onto EA within the game (no internet etc), any save games wouldn't load with DLC. Any new games you started wouldn't have the DLC until you logged back onto EA within the game.

At least, I never encountered a situation where I could not log on, but still had access to DLC.

Strange... I'm able to play DA:O and ME2 DLC while offline once they are authenticated. That is when I play them from my laptop while on travel and don't have net connection. I usually have my desktop always connected.

Yeah, me neither.  I haven't logged on with ME2 in ages.

Do you have DLC installed?

Because without DLC those games can be played on PC without internet connection. How ever, if You have DLC installed game would refuse to start without internet connection. Because it does DRM check for DLC's.

ME2 DLC needs to be validated only once. After the validation process, you can disconnect the internet and play ME2 til the end of times - with all DLC enabled.

[Aliens Crew]

Isn't it strange, that Publischer like EA told us, that we have to do? Shouldn't it be that a Publisher does what we want?

After all they want our money, don't they?

[Lumikki]

Shepard the Leper wrote...

ME2 DLC needs to be validated only once. After the validation process, you can disconnect the internet and play ME2 til the end of times - with all DLC enabled.

ME2 DLC needs to be valitated everytime you start the game. For me it was never just one time event. You don't need internet connection after the valitation, that is true.

Modifié par Lumikki, 19 janvier 2012 - 12:41 .

[Dovahzaan]

Aliens Crew wrote...

Isn't it strange, that Publischer like EA told us, that we have to do? Shouldn't it be that a Publisher does what we want?

After all they want our money, don't they?

And they'll get our money. Just wait until ME3 gets released. My guess is, that 80% of the "pre-order cancled!!11!"-guys will buy Mass Effect 3.

[Shepard the Leper]

Lumikki wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

ME2 DLC needs to be validated only once. After the validation process, you can disconnect the internet and play ME2 til the end of times - with all DLC enabled.

ME2 DLC needs to be valitated everytime you start the game. For me it was never just one time event. You don't need internet connection after the valitation.

I've played ME2 a couple times the last 6 months or so, and the auto-login doesn't work - I always get the message that the connection has failed (although a manual loging does work). It doesn't matter if I'm online or not I can always load or start whatever game I want with all DLC goodies and missions available.

P.S. I don't have Origin or the old EA download manager installed - I will never use them. I have to insert the disc to start playing, but I haven't had any issues with DLC not working (no login, no internet, or both and everything still works fine).

[Icinix]

Icinix wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Merkar wrote...

Icinix wrote...

For ME2, DAO, DA2, if you didn't log onto EA within the game (no internet etc), any save games wouldn't load with DLC. Any new games you started wouldn't have the DLC until you logged back onto EA within the game.

At least, I never encountered a situation where I could not log on, but still had access to DLC.

Strange... I'm able to play DA:O and ME2 DLC while offline once they are authenticated. That is when I play them from my laptop while on travel and don't have net connection. I usually have my desktop always connected.

Yeah, me neither.  I haven't logged on with ME2 in ages.

Hmm - I'm going to try playing from an internet void computer - let me check.

DAO still does the DLC check, and won't load DLC without logging onto EA - I don't have a system with DA2 installed so can't check - and yeah - ME2 worked fine.

I could have sworn it used to give me a message about being unable to connect to EA and an error with DLC - I might just be getting my wires crossed with other games though. Still, interesting that DA checks and ME doesn't.

[didymos1120]

Lumikki wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

ME2 DLC needs to be validated only once. After the validation process, you can disconnect the internet and play ME2 til the end of times - with all DLC enabled.

ME2 DLC needs to be valitated everytime you start the game.

Nope. I just tried blocking it with my firewall. Works just fine.

For me it was never just one time event. You don't need internet connection after the valitation, that is true.

Then there's something else going on with your installation.

Modifié par didymos1120, 19 janvier 2012 - 12:54 .

[Lumikki]

didymos1120 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

ME2 DLC needs to be validated only once. After the validation process, you can disconnect the internet and play ME2 til the end of times - with all DLC enabled.

ME2 DLC needs to be valitated everytime you start the game.

Nope. I just tried blocking it with my firewall. Works just fine.

For me it was never just one time event. You don't need internet connection after the valitation, that is true.

Then there's something else going on with your installation.

Maybe, but that's how it does work for me. Maybe there is different versions of ME2's (DVD)?

Modifié par Lumikki, 19 janvier 2012 - 01:01 .

[solfox]

Icinix wrote...


DAO still does the DLC check, and won't load DLC without logging onto EA - I don't have a system with DA2 installed so can't check - and yeah - ME2 worked fine.

I could have sworn it used to give me a message about being unable to connect to EA and an error with DLC - I might just be getting my wires crossed with other games though. Still, interesting that DA checks and ME doesn't.

If i remember correctly, there was an auto-login option in DAO. When this was activated, and the game was not able to connect to the servers for some reason, you could not load savegames with dlc. However, if you simply deactivated the auto-login and started DAO again, it worked without problem and you could load your savegames with dlc again.

Had that problem a few times due to some bad internet connection at that time. So the game only did an online check when it was set to automatic logon.


Havent started the game for some months now, but after cancelling the pre-order for the CE of ME3 it looks like I will have some time to do so again in the future

[FDrage]

never had any issues after the first (initially) authentication and I always had my internet set to off / firewall block internet access, as well as having data collection / auto-login turn off. Could happily play ME2 and DA:O with all the DLCs that I had without any problems (DVD-version).

[Furtled]

Chris Priestly wrote...
5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.

To repeat, would it be possible to get some official clarity on this one please? 

Right now that reads like you can opt-out of ME game data collection as you could with previous games, but that there is no option to opt out of Origin data collection - which is another kettle of fish entirely, and a pretty smelly one at that.

Thank you
(p.s. if you've already responded and I've missed it - sorry!)

Modifié par Furtled, 19 janvier 2012 - 01:18 .

[Dovahzaan]

Furtled wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...
5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.

Right now that reads like you can opt-out of ME game data collection as you could with previous games

Yep, that's it. He just tries to mislead us.

[Thoth_Amon]

Vasparian wrote...

Except when the head of valve bashes an entire platform as substandard, then gets paid a bunch of money to change his mind right? You can be delusional all you want, just don't try and pretend Vave is anything more than a company out to make a buck. 

I'd say giving out a free PC copy of Portal 2 to PS3 purchasers more than makes up for whatever you're saying.  Or it could be Sony actually reached out to Valve and helped with the porting process of their next game?  You must live in a sad, pathetic bubble to look at it that way.  Sure, every company wants and needs to make money but some know how to go about it the right way.  EA certainly isn't one of them.

[didymos1120]

Dovahzaan wrote...

Furtled wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...
5) Is there an opt in or opt out clause for data collection?
Users will be allowed to opt-out of Mass Effect 3 data collection from inside the game.

Right now that reads like you can opt-out of ME game data collection as you could with previous games

Yep, that's it. He just tries to mislead us.

He almost certainly didn't write that himself, but was given it by someone else in EA.

[Gotholhorakh]

Moondoggie wrote...

EA has been around for three decades i think they can manage another lol. And Origin is in their plans for the long term. Nobody is going to be like "okay we are shutting down Origin so nobody can play Origin based games anymore" just like Valve won't be doing that with Steam.

Wait what?

Since games publishers will turn the lights out on an online community, nuke stats, etc. without a second thought, even for reasons like "we want to make you buy the new game", why should we think they'd have a problem just walking away from Origin if it was in their own interests and against the community's?

Also, there are loads of games whose online components are abandoned to rot, or even games that don't run properly any more but are still sold, so it's not as outlandish as you might think that this would break the game in a few years.

[Dovahzaan]

didymos1120 wrote...

He almost certainly didn't write that himself, but was given it by someone else in EA.

So, who cares? He knows it's misleading, but posted it anyways. That makes him just as bad.

[Metalrocks]

FDrage wrote...

never had any issues after the first (initially) authentication and I always had my internet set to off / firewall block internet access, as well as having data collection / auto-login turn off. Could happily play ME2 and DA:O with all the DLCs that I had without any problems (DVD-version).

because they are not connected to any program like ubis DRM or origin that requires constant connection. ok, ubis DRM has chnaged that you can play it in offline mode but you know what i mean.

[didymos1120]

Dovahzaan wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

He almost certainly didn't write that himself, but was given it by someone else in EA.

So, who cares? He knows it's misleading, but posted it anyways. That makes him just as bad.

He has to post it because that's the official corporate position. You can't just pick and choose what you're gonna pass along when it comes to this stuff.

[Aliens Crew]

didymos1120 wrote...

Dovahzaan wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

He almost certainly didn't write that himself, but was given it by someone else in EA.

So, who cares? He knows it's misleading, but posted it anyways. That makes him just as bad.

He has to post it because that's the official corporate position. You can't just pick and choose what you're gonna pass along when it comes to this stuff.

That's no excuse for misleading customers...


@Metalrocks
And Ubi has only change their DMR. Now it will be hide inside the game (See "Anno 2070).

Modifié par Aliens Crew, 19 janvier 2012 - 01:51 .

[didymos1120]

Aliens Crew wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Dovahzaan wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

He almost certainly didn't write that himself, but was given it by someone else in EA.

So, who cares? He knows it's misleading, but posted it anyways. That makes him just as bad.

He has to post it because that's the official corporate position. You can't just pick and choose what you're gonna pass along when it comes to this stuff.

That's no excuse for misleading customers...

So, what should he have done instead, given that he was required to post what he did?  

[Dovahzaan]

didymos1120 wrote...

He has to post it because that's the official corporate position. You can't just pick and choose what you're gonna pass along when it comes to this stuff.

I once complained, that the hospital I worked for, didn't treat their patients properly. My boss told me to stop, because it woldn't change anything. I didn't and was fired one month later. 
You always have a choice.

[Aliens Crew]

@didymos1120

How about telling the truth?

BioWare always claims they are independet from EA. So, is this also a lie?

[Furtled]

@Aliens Crew
@didymos1120
@Dovahzaan

Guys can I politely ask that this stops please? I appreciate both sides of the discussion but it doesn't help get an official response that I can take to the ICO as part of a complaint.

Thanks

Modifié par Furtled, 19 janvier 2012 - 02:04 .