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[UrdnotGrunty]

Im not buying ME3 if it requires origin, and im not buying a console version

[shepskisaac]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I don't know if it has occurred to some but if you (feel) your not getting your answer on here, why not go onto the EA forums and ask given it's EA's baby and all? Or have you lot tried that yet.

Going to EA forums to talk about ANYTHING, let alone the criticism of EA is definitely not a good idea

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:02 .

[Dragoonlordz]

IsaacShep wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I don't know if it has occurred to some but if you (feel) your not getting your answer on here, why not go onto the EA forums and ask given it's EA's baby and all? Or have you lot tried that yet.

Going to EA forums to talk about ANYTHING, let alone the criticism of EA is definitely not a good idea

I'm not so sure about that as long as it is said/asked in a fairly respectable way I have seen many such 'hot' topics discussed there and even heated ones. But having to be aware of consequences forces most to put their point across in a less hostile antagonistic way. In the end it is their baby and as such there is noone better placed to answer.

Edit. P.s. Chris or any Dev, can you head over here or here and answer the question there please.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:41 .

[Homey C-Dawg]

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

[didymos1120]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

It'll only be for the PC version.  And probably not globally, either. 

[TheRealJayDee]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

I have to wonder why Mr. Priestly has been removing these posts. If the data collected by Origin is harmless, surely EA has nothing to hide. Right?

This.

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

Also this...

[kofelover]

didymos1120 wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

It'll only be for the PC version.  And probably not globally, either. 

Most everyone remembers DA2 and the anticipation that generated for its release.

And then they released it .....

There's no guarantee, or even probability, at this point that this entry will meet anyones expectations. 

[_Guy_Fawkes_]

IsaacShep wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I don't know if it has occurred to some but if you (feel) your not getting your answer on here, why not go onto the EA forums and ask given it's EA's baby and all? Or have you lot tried that yet.

Going to EA forums to talk about ANYTHING, let alone the criticism of EA is definitely not a good idea

If that's true and not a one time only exception, geez, sounds like really customer friendly behavior by EA - NOT.

[didymos1120]

kofelover wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

It'll only be for the PC version.  And probably not globally, either. 

Most everyone remembers DA2 and the anticipation that generated for its release.

And then they released it .....

There's no guarantee, or even probability, at this point that this entry will meet anyones expectations. 

We're talking about people one-starring it solely because of Origin, not because of the content of the game itself.

Modifié par didymos1120, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:16 .

[kofelover]

didymos1120 wrote...

kofelover wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

It'll only be for the PC version.  And probably not globally, either. 

Most everyone remembers DA2 and the anticipation that generated for its release.

And then they released it .....

There's no guarantee, or even probability, at this point that this entry will meet anyones expectations. 

We're talking about people one-starring it solely because of Origin, not because of the content of the game itself.

I understand that, but everyone seems to assume they'll be missing an epic adventure and that's why we are all so upset.  Just saying that may not be the case.

[Homey C-Dawg]

didymos1120 wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

It'll only be for the PC version.  And probably not globally, either. 

Of course it'll be the PC version. That's the sad part, that it won't have anything to do with the game itself but it's gonna happen anyway. I've seen it happen plenty of times now.

[Luvinn]

McBeath wrote...

Luvinn wrote...

In short, man up. Give an answer one way or another.

Guys just doing his job, for one reason or another people have been told not to discuss ways to work around Origins features.  Fair?   Maybe not, but it's the rule.

Unfortunately Chris is the guy stuck enforcing that rule.  Disagree with it, ask why even... but do you really have to refer to his actions as "childish" or be rude? 

Cheers.  McBeath.

Trust me, that was anything but rude. And what isn't childish about deleting something with no explanation. It is childish because its the easy way out. Nothing needs to be said. Giving a reason like "we feel discussing this is against ......" would be acceptable. And if i seen an adult acting childish in real life, telling them to 'man up' is far from rude, it is actually decent advice.

Modifié par Luvinn, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:29 .

[Bogsnot1]

I have another question, which will probably be ignored (and get me banned again), just like all of the other legitimate questions I have asked.

Have the mods educated themselves on what sandboxing technology actually does, instead of claiming it "circumvents copyright", and banning those who talk about it?

[Dragoonlordz]

kofelover wrote...

I understand that, but everyone seems to assume they'll be missing an epic adventure and that's why we are all so upset.  Just saying that may not be the case.

I would not worry too much about that aspect, the one's who play it even on PC will out number the one's who try to 1 star it in this case. With DA2 it was easier to get away with 1 staring it because more people did not like the game, here people will love the game itself I am sure. The one's who 1 star over Origin in this situation are smaller in number by fair amount than those who will play and love it. Though this won't stop it having fair amount of probably 1 staring but they will be outnumbered hugely here with this title (imho). Personally I find it petty in general to 1 star something they haven't played.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:27 .

[Sgt Stryker]

didymos1120 wrote...

kofelover wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

It'll only be for the PC version.  And probably not globally, either. 

Most everyone remembers DA2 and the anticipation that generated for its release.

And then they released it .....

There's no guarantee, or even probability, at this point that this entry will meet anyones expectations. 

We're talking about people one-starring it solely because of Origin, not because of the content of the game itself.

I think that's probably the most disheartening part of all this Origin business. I'm convinced that ME3 will be a great game, but will not reach its full potential solely because of negative word-of-mouth, all because of Origin.

[kofelover]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kofelover wrote...

I understand that, but everyone seems to assume they'll be missing an epic adventure and that's why we are all so upset.  Just saying that may not be the case.

I would not worry too much about that aspect, the one's who play it even on PC will out number the one's who try to 1 star it in this case. With DA2 it was easier to get away with 1 staring it because more people did not like the game, here people will love the game itself I am sure. The one's who 1 star over Origin in this situation are smaller in number by fair amount than those who will play and love it. Though this won't stop it having fair amount of probably 1 staring but they will be outnumbered hugely here with this title (imho).

That's EXACTLY what we all thought about DA2 ..

Before it was released.  Unless, of course, you have had the privilege of playing a beta version the rest of us haven't.  I, too, used to blindly trrust Bioware to produce top notch games -- unquestionably.  Not any more and there are plenty of people who feel the same way.  Fool me once, shame on you....... fool me twice, shame on me.

Modifié par kofelover, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:29 .

[Dragoonlordz]

kofelover wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kofelover wrote...

I understand that, but everyone seems to assume they'll be missing an epic adventure and that's why we are all so upset.  Just saying that may not be the case.

I would not worry too much about that aspect, the one's who play it even on PC will out number the one's who try to 1 star it in this case. With DA2 it was easier to get away with 1 staring it because more people did not like the game, here people will love the game itself I am sure. The one's who 1 star over Origin in this situation are smaller in number by fair amount than those who will play and love it. Though this won't stop it having fair amount of probably 1 staring but they will be outnumbered hugely here with this title (imho).

That's EXACTLY what we all thought about DA2 ..

Before it was released.  Unless, of course, you have had the privilege of playing a beta version the rest of us haven't.  I, too, used to blindly trrust Bioware to produce top notch games -- unquestionably.  Not any more and there are plenty of people who feel the same way.  Fool me once, shame on me.......

Yeh I did not enjoy DA2 either. But as so many people kept pointing out to me the teams working on each are different which was fair point I thought even if I disliked DA2, I still had faith that the team working on ME3 won't let me down on quality of the game.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:30 .

[kofelover]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kofelover wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

kofelover wrote...

I understand that, but everyone seems to assume they'll be missing an epic adventure and that's why we are all so upset.  Just saying that may not be the case.

I would not worry too much about that aspect, the one's who play it even on PC will out number the one's who try to 1 star it in this case. With DA2 it was easier to get away with 1 staring it because more people did not like the game, here people will love the game itself I am sure. The one's who 1 star over Origin in this situation are smaller in number by fair amount than those who will play and love it. Though this won't stop it having fair amount of probably 1 staring but they will be outnumbered hugely here with this title (imho).

That's EXACTLY what we all thought about DA2 ..

Before it was released.  Unless, of course, you have had the privilege of playing a beta version the rest of us haven't.  I, too, used to blindly trrust Bioware to produce top notch games -- unquestionably.  Not any more and there are plenty of people who feel the same way.  Fool me once, shame on me.......

Yeh I did not enjoy DA2 either. But as so many people kept pointing out to me the teams working on each are different which was fair point I thought even if I disliked DA2, I still had faith that the team working on ME3 won't let me down on quality of the game.

If EA were not pulling the strings now (as they were for DA2), I would completely agree with you.  Bottom line, everyone will have to wait and see.  It may very well turn out that those of us making educated decisions not to buy this game for various reasons, will be glad we saved ourselves the $80.  It may also turn out that the game is spectacular and all of our fears are realized.  None of us have a crystal ball.  I just can no longer give Bioware carte blanche with my wallet.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Have the mods educated themselves on what sandboxing technology actually does, instead of claiming it "circumvents copyright", and banning those who talk about it?

Hate to say it but I really don't think they care. The mods here are just doing what they are told and have no real power or influence on the matter, and the EA corporate guys have an agenda that goes far beyond anything they'll tell the public.

[Stanley Woo]

Please do not discuss methods of circumventing Origins in this forum. Continuing to participate in such discussions may result in your post being edited or removed, all the way up to and including a forum ban for discussing forbidden topics and failing to heed Moderator instructions or warnings.

[Dragoonlordz]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

and the EA corporate guys have an agenda that goes far beyond anything they'll tell the public.

That sentence just gave me the urge to play through DE:HR again... 

@Stanley

Seeing as your monitoring stuff could you possibly be able to answer either question I asked on here at bottom of my post?

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:41 .

[Wintersembrace]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

I have another question, which will probably be ignored (and get me banned again), just like all of the other legitimate questions I have asked.

Have the mods educated themselves on what sandboxing technology actually does, instead of claiming it "circumvents copyright", and banning those who talk about it?

+1

[Forbidden]

I will not allow Origin onto my machine.  Stating that it isn't spyware doesn't make it so.  It searches your disk and uploads personal information.  That is spyware.  I was looking forward to ME3 after playing the two previous, but I will not purchase ME3 or any future bioware games that require Origin.  There are plenty of other games out there that aren't security risks.  It's a shame that bioware has chosen the anti-customer the route of Ubisoft.  You used to be a good company.

[chance52]

didymos1120 wrote...

kofelover wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

It's gonna be a sad thing seeing ME3 get 1-starred into oblivion on Amazon.

It'll only be for the PC version.  And probably not globally, either. 

Most everyone remembers DA2 and the anticipation that generated for its release.

And then they released it .....

There's no guarantee, or even probability, at this point that this entry will meet anyones expectations. 

We're talking about people one-starring it solely because of Origin, not because of the content of the game itself.

Well if that is what people do I would say that is a fair reason to rate it poorly considering you can't have ME3 without Origin, they can rate the product as it has to be used in practice.  EA forced the use of it with their product they can't be surprised with all this hate for Origin if their customer reviews reflect that on their product's listing.  And last I saw, Amazon allowed the star-review system to add explanations to their review and I'd imagine someone who will rate it very low will give their reason for doing so.

[kofelover]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Have the mods educated themselves on what sandboxing technology actually does, instead of claiming it "circumvents copyright", and banning those who talk about it?

Hate to say it but I really don't think they care. The mods here are just doing what they are told and have no real power or influence on the matter, and the EA corporate guys have an agenda that goes far beyond anything they'll tell the public.

This ...

The product EA is selling (for the PC) is not so much ME3, but Origin.  They want to position themselves as a viable contender for Steam, and ME3 is the pretty packaging to make that happen.  If they had (theoritically speaking -- I know they don't own 38 studios, but if they did) used the same tactics for Kingdom of Amalur (strong arming people to use Origin), people would have laughed and walked away.  It's a new IP (and frankly not that great).  They would NOT have generated the numbers they're hoping to see with ME3.

With ME3, they want to attract large numbers to their database so they can say, "we now have XXXXXXXX number of users".  Let alone the fact, that many PC users who feel like they've been forced into a deal with the devil, will ONLY use Origin to play a specific game.  Why in the world would anyone who feels they're being forced into something they're uncomfortable with,  want to give future business to a company thato employs these tactics.  It's very shortsighted and will come back to bite them in the arse.   They may add a number to their database, but that won't necessarily be reflected in tangible future business.