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ReallyRue wrote...

Calibration Master wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...


Although, if this Joker/EDI thing is true, then I'd rather EDI have a vaguely human body. Personally, I think it would make it less sad that Joker is hitting on a robot. Image IPB


Funny thing is, that it's the other way around in fact. EDI is hitting on Joker, instead of Joker hitting on EDI.


Yeah, I know right. What a twist!


But... I don't even... I don't understand how that would work. EDI might make jokes, especially at Joker's expense, but I can't see it seriously hitting on him. EDI wouldn't have any real concept of how emotions and all that work. It'd be like watching Legion give Shepard a cheesy pick-up line in all seriousness. Image IPB


EDI being an AI could make herself want to learn how emotions work as we've seen how she attempts to learn and use humour to heighten joker's morale.
now that she's been "released" she can attempt to create programs that allow her to simulate emotions in her attempt to understand them, would be a sight to see really.

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Lambchopz wrote...

I think if you keep in mind there is an obvious meta-romance between EDI and Joker, it does make sense that she would get a human female body, also because she was designed by Cerberus to be human-like, and Cerberus is all pro human and stuff. We Americans like our perfect happy endings.



Shippers see obvious romances everyhwere....

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EDI as a squadmate would be pretty cool. Legion + EDI + Shephard would be unstoppable!

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Unless the reapers hacked all three of them and it became a battle royale.

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@Ieldra2 and RandomJerkface--thank you. :)

Calibration Master wrote...

I find it rather shallow that most people assume that 'EDI in a body' = 'EDI sexbot'. That's just dumb.

It's not shallow, it's based on actual evidence, as Syllogi noted. It's why I put a warning at the beginning of my post. There's nothing "shallow" about "assuming" something when you've actually read it in a confirmed draft of the ME3 script.

Even if we were not working from evidence, it would not be shallow. It would be premature or reactionary, but hardly shallow.

Lambchopz wrote...

Anyways, I'm basically just saying wait
and see. I would be very, very, VERY surprised if Bioware didn't make
EDIs ME3 story interesting and worthy of some overhauls to her look and
role in the story.

I don't think anyone disputed that Bioware knows how to make their stories interesting or that they had their reasons. The problem is, this is plot-driven instead of being character-driven. Character fidelity has taken a backseat to making a point within the plot. The implications behind this are disturbing--I believe they are unintentional and light-hearted, but they are still disturbing and I cannot fathom why this was not seen by the developers. I have to think some of them did see, but were shouted down. Regardless, no amount of good writing can completely save plot choices like these and the inevitable BSG comparisons.

I just hope they gave her a decent outfit, meaning, one which actually covers her and is functional and not too desperately tight. It's the only thing that could save me from getting nauseous every time I look at her. Unfortunately, I have little doubt that it will at least be very tight. ME likes tight suits on almost everyone who's not a merc or Shepard.

AlexXIV wrote...

Would you like that Ymir (the most
powerful warbots so far) look more like a woman? Honestly, female
features on a robot only serve one purpose. And it has nothing to do
with war. Why not go all the way and make her a cyborg with human skin?
Hey, and since robots don't need clothes, she should be naked. But of
course only to kick ass, not because anyone would be drooling at ... um
... it. I mean as if it is not ridiculous already to refer to EDI as
'she'. I mean she has a female voice, but why should a computer have a
sex or be sexual at all? I like the idea of ships being refered to as
she from a romantic point of view. Like 'the captain and his ship'.
Captains are the last who leave the ship or go down with their ship like
Shepard in ME2. But why ruin this kind of romantic picture with
bringing in sex? I want EDI to be my ship. If I need a robot to follow
me around I'll ask Legion. Or Miranda *cough*.

I really could not agree with you more. I liked the fact that EDI's presence was pretty much everywhere on the Normandy. I liked her as my ship. I liked her and Joker monitoring the situation, I liked having living people on the ground with me and them watching over us. This is just so unnecessary, to change her role so drastically. I rarely mind change, but EDI was very different from the other characters. To see her take on such a traditional role, the squadmate, is disappointing to say the least. It would have been less so if she'd simply had a Legion-style mobile platform, but even then, I liked EDI being one with the ship. It was a cool idea. Too bad they didn't see it that way.

RynJ wrote...

But honestly. Who would have rather had another squadmate from ME1 or ME2 over fembot EDI? *raises hand high*

Maybe that's just me, but I feel like it's not. The whole thing just seems a bit silly imo.

I would have so preferred that they put development time into that than into giving EDI a body. I hate that they made so many squadmates last game, and that so many were killable. They just did too much, and now everyone's spread so thin... I wish they'd made different choices. Narrowed it down a little more. Now it's pretty obvious they were reaching for more guaranteed options for the player which weren't actually new characters.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Oh, I think there's a good chance EDI will look more human in ME3.


I see what you did there. lol

and OP oh the things I could tell you about EDI

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Calibration Master wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...


Although, if this Joker/EDI thing is true, then I'd rather EDI have a vaguely human body. Personally, I think it would make it less sad that Joker is hitting on a robot. Image IPB


Funny thing is, that it's the other way around in fact. EDI is hitting on Joker, instead of Joker hitting on EDI.


Yeah, I know right. What a twist!


But... I don't even... I don't understand how that would work. EDI might make jokes, especially at Joker's expense, but I can't see it seriously hitting on him. EDI wouldn't have any real concept of how emotions and all that work. It'd be like watching Legion give Shepard a cheesy pick-up line in all seriousness. Image IPB


EDI being an AI could make herself want to learn how emotions work as we've seen how she attempts to learn and use humour to heighten joker's morale.
now that she's been "released" she can attempt to create programs that allow her to simulate emotions in her attempt to understand them, would be a sight to see really.


I see EDI as a thinking and feeling being that for now is confined to the Normandy, "she" because I'm sure It doesn't need to use that voice, seems to like Joker.  One of the die hard EDI fan girls on a previous page said something like it might be okay if she had someone previous experiances uploaded... one, She's most likely been listening to Sheps/crews comms throughout all of ME2 (romances too) and also mostlikely has the ability to access the Net after being unlocked.

Has anyone read the Dune series? EDI's is young however I'm sure her knowledge and observed experiance is greater than any being aside from Reapers and Geth.  another concern is that she would be used/abused, by who?  I'm sure everyone trusts Sheps team to do right by each other.... Kasumi seems the type that would enjoy talking to EDI about Joker and that type of stuff, she's always telling Shep all the gossip.

Without going on a massive rant about AI and EDI's character, I'll just say that EDI isn't just a computer.


PS. do people think its strange that an Articficial Intelligence (has thoughts of its own and the ability to feel) will want to be in an atractive body? she isn't just some VI warmachine that would only think about practicality... also I think Humanity shows that thinking beings will waste money/resources on things that have nothing to do with continued survival. (video games, movies and such)

And to the fan girl that said she would rather Joker be with a real girl.... isn't that insulting to EDI, as if she doesn't have thoughts or feeling of her own.... the beginnings of Techno racisim from the animatrix Image IPB

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Don't feel like doing a tl;dr, but I believe you've missed the point of Wynne's post.

Also, like I said, who thinks Chipo Chung would have made an awesome EDI?

...Much love to Helfer, of course.

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At the end of the day, I have no issues with BW trying to write this story. They could screw it up of course, but I want to see them take a crack at it. I think it'll be pretty damn interesting.

Of course the Jokermancers are up in arms over it but shmeh, JEDI ftw!

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Then, you can have a human-cyborg relation with her (Star Wars pun lolololol! :D)

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EDI's existing body would already make a good squadmate.

Shepard: EDI, take that position!
EDI: Rodger that, Shepard. *Normandy falls from the sky and crashes down onto enemy outpost*

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I think EDI would be more interesting if she was in a *male* robot body. I know that Fembot has been done many times before but has Manbot been done? Was he sexy too and did he get with someone too?

I think I want a manbot now. Legion doesn't count.

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RynJ wrote...

I think EDI would be more interesting if she was in a *male* robot body. I know that Fembot has been done many times before but has Manbot been done? Was he sexy too and did he get with someone too?

I think I want a manbot now. Legion doesn't count.



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Wynne wrote...
I don't think anyone disputed that Bioware knows how to make their stories interesting or that they had their reasons. The problem is, this is plot-driven instead of being character-driven. Character fidelity has taken a backseat to making a point within the plot. The implications behind this are disturbing--I believe they are unintentional and light-hearted, but they are still disturbing and I cannot fathom why this was not seen by the developers. I have to think some of them did see, but were shouted down. Regardless, no amount of good writing can completely save plot choices like these and the inevitable BSG comparisons.


What I fiind ironic is that in ME2, they focused on companions so much they neglected the plot. Altough that didn't do much for character fidelity in the end....

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I certainly am all in favor of EDI getting a female body, its only fair. She has a great voice, but no body, it's good if they're changing that. Those of us who have seen Andromeda know how awesome it is when a ship has both a voice and a body, great combat and romance possibilities abound, plus its like having a whole new member of the team! I don't know if I'd ultimately go with EDI full time on the mission-team or not, but I'd certainly give her a major tryout. I also really like the idea of choosing between romancing EDI myself, and letting Joker romance her. The idea of EDI finally getting a female body and then walking off with Shepard as Joker looks on would obviously be all kinds of hilarious, I can only imagine how awesome the comments Joker would make when he saw EDI and my FemShep together would be. So for all those reasons and more, it is an awesome idea, two thumbs up!

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By the way. She's still in the ship. The body is on remote control.

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I stress again - please, please, please, please, please don't take the path most travelled BioWare.

Please don't make EDI a bot, and if you absolutely must, make her a mono gendered bot or a Geth platform OR SOMETHING! Just not a smexy bot.

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Tangeriney wrote...

RynJ wrote...

I think EDI would be more interesting if she was in a *male* robot body. I know that Fembot has been done many times before but has Manbot been done? Was he sexy too and did he get with someone too?

I think I want a manbot now. Legion doesn't count.



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And yes, he had sex with somebody in Star Trek.

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Icinix wrote...

I stress again - please, please, please, please, please don't take the path most travelled BioWare.

Please don't make EDI a bot, and if you absolutely must, make her a mono gendered bot or a Geth platform OR SOMETHING! Just not a smexy bot.

For your own good, cancel your preorder (if you have one) and do something else. You will only be disappointed.

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I really hope they dont give EDI a body, my already low estimates of how good ME3 is going to be are slowly getting lower and lower.
But I do like the Furioso dreadnought picture.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Tangeriney wrote...

RynJ wrote...

I think EDI would be more interesting if she was in a *male* robot body. I know that Fembot has been done many times before but has Manbot been done? Was he sexy too and did he get with someone too?

I think I want a manbot now. Legion doesn't count.



Image IPB


And yes, he had sex with somebody in Star Trek.

Poor old Tasha Yar :crying:

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Arcian wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I stress again - please, please, please, please, please don't take the path most travelled BioWare.

Please don't make EDI a bot, and if you absolutely must, make her a mono gendered bot or a Geth platform OR SOMETHING! Just not a smexy bot.

For your own good, cancel your preorder (if you have one) and do something else. You will only be disappointed.


I know :(

Its just disappointing as hell.

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I really could not agree with you more. I liked the fact that EDI's presence was pretty much everywhere on the Normandy. I liked her as my ship. I liked her and Joker monitoring the situation, I liked having living people on the ground with me and them watching over us. This is just so unnecessary, to change her role so drastically. I rarely mind change, but EDI was very different from the other characters. To see her take on such a traditional role, the squadmate, is disappointing to say the least. It would have been less so if she'd simply had a Legion-style mobile platform, but even then, I liked EDI being one with the ship. It was a cool idea. Too bad they didn't see it that way.


The way I understood it, she will in fact be like Legion.

EDI will get a mobile platform, but at the same time she will stay in the Normandy's system. I believe EDI said that her core and vital programs still run through the Normandy, but that A PART of her also runs on the mobile platform.
As an A.I. EDI is not restricted to just 1 body or 1 place. She can be at multiple places at the same time. She can be in multiple bodies at the same time.

So even when EDI gets a body, she will still be the same old EDI in the Normandy. She will just have the body as something extra. 

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edi is stuck in her Quantum Blue Box because edi is a ai. An artificial intelligence is a self-aware computing system capable of learning and independent decision making. Creation of conscious AI requires adaptive code, a slow, expensive education, and a specialized quantum computer called a "blue box". An AI cannot be transmitted across a communication channel or computer network. Without its blue box, an AI is no more than data files. Loading these files into a new blue box will create a new personality, as variations in the quantum hardware and runtime results create unpredictable variations. but she could use a new avatar

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As far as VI's go I like how Serena is represented in Halo Wars.

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A sort of holographic representation of the VI would also work for Mass Effect and it has been used before in the universe with Avina on the citadel for example.