(Note: Seriously don't even read this post if you are worried about being spoiled, even though I could technically be wrong, because I'm going off of what I've heard. In fact, if you don't want minor spoilers, you should probably get out of this thread and off the forums until March, pronto.)Ryzaki wrote...
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And 'she' needs a female body for that? It could not just be a practical robot?
I don't think she gets to choose.
But Bioware did. And, as the customer, I get to voice if I think it's absolutely stupid.
Poor Tricia being forced into the role of a sexbot, yet again.
Same.
Utterly annoying that they went this route.
Not just annoying--unbelievably creepy. EDI has not had any organic life experience.
What do you get if you suddenly combine a super-intelligent mind which is ready for complex calculations with a physical form? Pretty much this:
There's a reason that if you seduce a 14-year-old genius that it's still considered a crime--just because the body is biologically ready for sex, it doesn't mean that an innocent mind can't be fooled into engaging in activities it's not ready for. The point is, even if the adult in the relationship tried very hard to be really kind and sensitive, it's still naturally built as an unequal pairing, which will inevitably turn out to be exploitative and all the more confusing for the teenager.
That Tricia Helfer has again been forced into the role of Number 6/the sexbot is appalling by itself. But that, rather than respect the character of EDI, rather than think through the fact that she has effectively
just been born, if her body now has organic bits of any kind; they are
putting her into a romantic situation. It's not about whether somebody would be immoral enough to "hit that"--their hormones are irrelevant to this question. It's about whether an AI which has JUST been plunked into a body that can feel for the first time would be emotionally prepared for a relationship, or whether they could be exploited through their total lack of experience. Intelligence does NOT mean immunity to manipulation. It would be a drastically uneven relationship.
They could effectively "transfer" someone else's life experience to her brain to get around this little problem, if they have even thought further than "this suits our plot about organic/metal hybrids like the Reapers and the nature of existence/lots of boys like to fantasize about the perfect robot girlfriend who doesn't have any pesky opinions of her own and won't break your heart because she can't"--but then she wouldn't be EDI anymore. She'd be made of different life experiences, which would change her personality, realistically.
When it comes down to it, I can NOT see them doing this with a male AI in a sexy male body. It's not only fanservice, it's fanservice of the worst and most degrading variety. Sure, they can dress it up and rationalize it any way they want to; they can write it well to cover up the sickly underbelly, exactly as Stephenie Meyer tried to cover up the ugly misogynistic Stepford-wife underbelly of Twilight and her pedophilic undertones with that whole "imprinting" business.
If they write it as an adult relationship between two mature humans, it will fail to be convincing because all of these feelings should be new to her; overwhelming since she hasn't had the proper lifetime to get used to it all, and is suddenly plunged into the world of seeing, hearing, breathing, moving, smelling, tasting, feeling...
EDI isn't even 1 year old in terms of human/organic interactions based on emotions and hormones and all of that. If Shepard got together with her, it would be somewhat less disturbing because we know that he can be really sensitive and gentle as he is if you romance Jack or Tali in particular. You could have faith he'd take it slow. But Joker... Joker is the type to crack naughty jokes all the time. It's just who he is. it will inevitably look bad. Even more so since apparently, the disabled guy can't have a flesh-and-blood human adult.
Joker last game said specifically that we don't have to get all "unnatural" on him, and EDI said it was a "platonic symbiosis" that was going on. For EDI to go from cute and smart AI to "hot robot sex body that everyone drools over", and Joker to go from "brittle bones/I don't date crew" to "but she's an AI so technically even though I work with her more closely than anyone else I can totally jump her metal bones, no conflict of interest there!"
This is the worst decision the Mass Effect team has ever made. Unrealistic in every way and a major disservice to two beloved characters, despite the fact that it was clearly intended to allow Joker to get laid (though not by a real woman.) Yeah, this is sci-fi, but that makes it all the more important for things to make sense
internally. If they can't manage that, then they shouldn't have done it. It's double character-annihilation and it's utterly immersion-breaking. Even if it's not as bad as I'm fearing, it's still going to disturb me deeply.
I wanted Joker for my Shepard, but I would sooner have seen him with a nice human girl and swallowed my tears about it than to see this disgusting travesty occur.
Modifié par Wynne, 17 janvier 2012 - 02:19 .
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and Ill drink for Ur well being for correctly guessing about EDI in ME3 
