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[Abraham_uk]

In my honest opinion romance in Mass Effect is a great idea. An epic means of getting the player more involved in a game, its characters and universe. Trouble is it could be done better.


Bioware has had some experience here and has been doing this since Baldur's Gate but they still haven't really perfected the formula.

Some suggestions

• Consequences for having a romance
• Make it plot relevant.
• I'm okay with sex but make the relationship to be more than sex.
• One person said "build up, build up, build up, sex, post sex talk then back to normal"
• It would be nice for other people to recognise that you're in a relationship. It has been done by Kasumi I know.
• I would like squad mates to approach the main character. Especially those thinking of wooing the main character.
• Dragon Age does avances. Perhaps the Dragon Age 2 approach lacks subtlty.
• It would be nice if it is an opportunity to find out more about the main character.
• Protagonist reveals information to love interest that wouldn't be revealed to anyone else
• Romantic banter between protagonist and love interest if love interest is brought on missions. (okay maybe that's a bit too far)
• You can mess up the romance if you say stupid things and make the wrong decisions.
• Consequences for cheating on romantic interest

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 16 janvier 2012 - 09:02 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Taking them out.


...Amirite?

But on a serious note, a lack of romance in ME likely would have increased the quality of character discussion tenfold.

[Zkyire]

Do more post-sex.

As it stands it's just build up -> build up -> build up -> sex -> brief talk about the sex -> back to business as usual.

[Sibajar91]

Kinect motion tracking for groping and dry-humping would be nice

[BlueMagitek]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Taking them out.


...Amirite?

But on a serious note, a lack of romance in ME likely would have increased the quality of character discussion tenfold.

Do you really want every other topic to be on "Bring back X as LI~!!"?

[android654]

Unless its like a blood covered sex scene from Being Human the actual sex scenes couldn't get much better than what they already did so far.

The conversations would be nice with more depth, variables and quantity of dialogue.

I do agree with the other poster, with out the LI portion, the writers would have an easier time keeping consistency with the characters personalities if they didn't have to respond to Shepard's advances.

[floflo110]

 marriage would be awesome 

[Nu-Nu]

Take tips from the dragon age series, where the LI does some of the leg work, like when Alistair gave the Grey Warden a rose (so sweet) or when Zevran gave the warden precious earings. Or in DA2 when they visited the Champion at their home, instead of the main player always going to them.

[What a Succulent Ass]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Do you really want every other topic to be on "Bring back X as LI~!!"?

If there never were romances in the first place, this would never have been a problem. The love interest sideplot is rather faintly written in ME1 to begin with, but ME2 just cranked it straight into cheap fanservice territory. I dare say it jumped the shark.

...Actually, no, it jumped the shark, flew out of the water, broke the bounds of the atmosphere, and set a course directly for the sun. The effort that it took to write the romance subplots would have better spent fleshing out the characters through deeper platonic conversation (as devs say there will be in ME3), which, frankly, are far more valuable than somewhat shallow, highly unconvincing love stories tossed in for the sake of "roleplay." It's a shame when you've got an extraordinary universe like ME (despite its foibles), then you come onto the forums and discussion of that universe is completely eclipsed by a minor gameplay feature that isn't even well-done. Hell, if I were the devs/writers, I'd be miffed to see that roughly 90% of discussion is who and who cannot be boinked, and how well the PC is boinking them...as if most of the interest in the characters is generated only by the possibility of having a virtual relationship.

And that's terrible.

[Unschuld]

Alien penis and gratuitous Salarian cloaca. Its the answer to all these debates.

[Nissun]

Modifié par Nissun, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:31 .

[Stalker]

I would like to see a real relationship, more than just one makeout-scene right before the last mission.
This is the first time a romance is continuable. I want to see that.

[BlueMagitek]

Random Jerkface wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Do you really want every other topic to be on "Bring back X as LI~!!"?

If there never were romances in the first place, this would never have been a problem. The love interest sideplot is rather faintly written in ME1 to begin with, but ME2 just cranked it straight into cheap fanservice territory. I dare say it jumped the shark.

...Actually, no, it jumped the shark, flew out of the water, broke the bounds of the atmosphere, and set a course directly for the sun. The effort that it took to write the romance subplots would have better spent fleshing out the characters through deeper platonic conversation (as devs say there will be in ME3), which, frankly, are far more valuable than somewhat shallow, highly unconvincing love stories tossed in for the sake of "roleplay." It's a shame when you've got an extraordinary universe like ME (despite its foibles), then you come onto the forums and discussion of that universe is completely eclipsed by a minor gameplay feature that isn't even well-done. Hell, if I were the devs/writers, I'd be miffed to see that roughly 90% of discussion is who and who cannot be boinked, and how well the PC is boinking them...as if most of the interest in the characters is generated only by the possibility of having a virtual relationship.

And that's terrible.

I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying that now that it has been added in, taking it away would be very difficult and call forth a wave of anger from a very vocal minority. 

And it isn't like Bioware hasn't had romance before; everyone wanted you all the way back to BG 2. Unless you were a woman, then only one person wanted you.

Modifié par BlueMagitek, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:31 .

[Asenza]

It could be improved by making it less about the LI baring their soul to Shepard and more Shepard giving back. A relationship takes two giving equally, or a least, it should.

It isn't as if Shepard is limited as a result of being the player-character- he/she has a set background and personal and military history, in addition to decisions made previous games. Just bloody give Shepard some chances to talk about it! How have these things affected them? Did a Renegade regret taking Morinth over Samara? Is a paragon now uneasy about having re-written the heretic Geth or allowing the Rachni queen to live? Is a female Shepard worried about how her romance with Thane or Garrus will be seen by others?

If they have a prayer of making Shepard even half as real a character as the rest of the cast, Shepard needs opportunities, and many of them, to express themself in ME3. It's an issue that bleeds through many other parts of the story, including the romances.

By sole virtue of the fact that many players will be in an established relationship by this point, I have hope that they will change for the better in ME3. No more build up, it should be about sustaining a relationship at this point, not beginning one.

If they do it right, it'll be amazing, regardless of the LI.

Modifié par Asenza, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:40 .

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Random Jerkface wrote...

If there never were romances in the first place, this would never have been a problem. The love interest sideplot is rather faintly written in ME1 to begin with, but ME2 just cranked it straight into cheap fanservice territory. I dare say it jumped the shark.

...Actually, no, it jumped the shark, flew out of the water, broke the bounds of the atmosphere, and set a course directly for the sun. The effort that it took to write the romance subplots would have better spent fleshing out the characters through deeper platonic conversation (as devs say there will be in ME3), which, frankly, are far more valuable than somewhat shallow, highly unconvincing love stories tossed in for the sake of "roleplay." It's a shame when you've got an extraordinary universe like ME (despite its foibles), then you come onto the forums and discussion of that universe is completely eclipsed by a minor gameplay feature that isn't even well-done. Hell, if I were the devs/writers, I'd be miffed to see that roughly 90% of discussion is who and who cannot be boinked, and how well the PC is boinking them...as if most of the interest in the characters is generated only by the possibility of having a virtual relationship.

And that's terrible.

/thread

[What a Succulent Ass]

BlueMagitek wrote...

I don't disagree with you, I'm just saying that now that it has been added in, taking it away would be very difficult and call forth a wave of anger from a very vocal minority. 

And it isn't like Bioware hasn't had romance before; everyone wanted you all the way back to BG 2. Unless you were a woman, then only one person wanted you.

I know BioWare has a history of romance, but that's besides the point.

I would actually like to see the romances removed for exactly that reason. It would likely generate enough petawatts of arsepain to power my laughter for years. In all seriousness, though, if you're a fan of a character, I don't see why you wouldn't rather see more content and backgound related to them rather than a (rather painfully) contrived romance that culminates in a rather unsatisfying conclusion.

[naledgeborn]

By removing them. I used to like romances when they were worth a damn like in KotOR. *Averts arrow/knee meme*

Modifié par naledgeborn, 16 janvier 2012 - 08:42 .

[BlueMagitek]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I know BioWare has a history of romance, but that's besides the point.

I would actually like to see the romances removed for exactly that reason. It would likely generate enough petawatts of arsepain to power my laughter for years. In all seriousness, though, if you're a fan of a character, I don't see why you wouldn't rather see more content and backgound related to them rather than a (rather painfully) contrived romance that culminates in a rather unsatisfying conclusion.

I wouldn't say to take them out; they do make people happy and that is one of the points of a game.  But they should definately be pushed to the side.  

[Nu-Nu]

I do like the romance option, but I would like to have the same amount of paragon points for the friend option and romance option so people don't feel like they have to go down the romance route for extra points.

[Fidget6]

I would like if they acted like a couple at times other than the one-on-one chats and the actual love scene itself. It's always annoyed me that Shepard never acknowledges their significant other as such unless its in one of the designated romance scenes.

[Seboist]

Random Jerkface wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Do you really want every other topic to be on "Bring back X as LI~!!"?

If there never were romances in the first place, this would never have been a problem. The love interest sideplot is rather faintly written in ME1 to begin with, but ME2 just cranked it straight into cheap fanservice territory. I dare say it jumped the shark.

...Actually, no, it jumped the shark, flew out of the water, broke the bounds of the atmosphere, and set a course directly for the sun. The effort that it took to write the romance subplots would have better spent fleshing out the characters through deeper platonic conversation (as devs say there will be in ME3), which, frankly, are far more valuable than somewhat shallow, highly unconvincing love stories tossed in for the sake of "roleplay." It's a shame when you've got an extraordinary universe like ME (despite its foibles), then you come onto the forums and discussion of that universe is completely eclipsed by a minor gameplay feature that isn't even well-done. Hell, if I were the devs/writers, I'd be miffed to see that roughly 90% of discussion is who and who cannot be boinked, and how well the PC is boinking them...as if most of the interest in the characters is generated only by the possibility of having a virtual relationship.

And that's terrible.

+1

The fixation on these crappy "romances" that are just a handful of brief conversations and a one minute dry humping scene is quite comical. Some are just that depraved and have low standards I guess.

[Lhotse5]

the whole thing seems so linear sometimes. if they're gonna do this, do it right. Shephard should be allowed to have a romance with any charcter in the game, non-storyline personel aside.
i understand this insn't a porn game and the nudity should not be over-the-top but i believe they got it right with Liara in ME1 and why just the one time right before the big mission at the end ?
they had the console in the quarters to summon Kelly in ME2. if the dialogue is advanced to a certain point early in the game, why not expand the 'personal message console in the quarters' for all characters and also tie the relationship in more in other aspects of the game sooner ?
that's how it goes in real life