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[JeffZero]

Chris Priestly wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Good post, Chris. Fair enough. I think I would still tell people asking me which Star Wars movie to start with to go for A New Hope, though.

So not the first movie in the series then? I guess you prove my point.

Well that's... That's just. You... You can't compare ME1 and TPM!  I get it, though, hehe.

[Mike Shepard]

Chris Priestly wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Good post, Chris. Fair enough. I think I would still tell people asking me which Star Wars movie to start with to go for A New Hope, though.

So not the first movie in the series then? I guess you prove my point.

I would never tell someone to watch Phantom Menace unless I really hated that person and wanted them to suffer.

[Chris Priestly]

ME1 relaunch now with 100% more gungans.

[habitat 67]

Lots of people also saw Return of the King first too. It was a stand alone good movie. You know, that won an Oscar?

[double02]

Phantom Menace is awesome.

[Mike Shepard]

Chris Priestly wrote...

ME1 relaunch now with 100% more gungans.

In the words of Darth Vader.......




Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

[shepskisaac]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Are you comparing ME1 to the Phantom Menace? I hope not.

Are you an angel? <3









































What have you done Lucas...

[Tiger]

 I understand how marketing would say that because they want more people to try out the game, i just feel like the fans of the series are being pushed under the rug with that statement.

[1136342t54_]

bleetman wrote...

habitat 67 wrote...

You can pick up Saints Row the Third without having to ever play the other two...

In no way is that a remotely sensible comparison.

It is story wise. Hell it explains why the Saints a small time gang became so freaking large and famous. It even shows much more of what the Boss and Gat went through to get to where they are now. Gat's death would be much more worse for you if you really grown close to that character. Storywise Saints Row The Third isn't a great jumping point. Gameplay wise makes it so since it is very damn fun.

[Chuvvy]

habitat 67 wrote...

Lots of people also saw Return of the King first too. It was a stand alone good movie. You know, that won an Oscar?

Every LOTR movie won oscars. And Peter Jackson wasn't hypeing ROTK as the best entry point, and there wasn't some new guy called Craig asking questions to explain things to new viewers. "Where are the elves going?" "What's up with that weird eye?" "Why are we taking this ring to Mordor?" "What's going on with that dude in the loin cloth?" "Can't we just simply walk into Mordor?"

Modifié par Slidell505, 18 janvier 2012 - 06:07 .

[ediskrad327]

IsaacShep wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Are you comparing ME1 to the Phantom Menace? I hope not.

Are you an angel? <3









































What have you done Lucas...

even Kotor 2 acknowledges

Modifié par ediskrad327, 18 janvier 2012 - 06:05 .

[habitat 67]

DarthShadow13 wrote...

 I understand how marketing would say that because they want more people to try out the game, i just feel like the fans of the series are being pushed under the rug with that statement.

It's ok. You're still a special snowflake.

[Rockworm503]

Pretend there is no story its easy.

[shepskisaac]

ediskrad327 wrote...

even Kotor 2 acknowledges

Well it's a common knowledge KOTOR 2 is the greatest thing Star Wars after The Empire Strikes Back

[double02]

Are any of you guys new to the ME series? If not, then this "entry-point" talk should not ever matter.

[Rockworm503]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Mike Shepard wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

ME1 relaunch now with 100% more gungans.

In the words of Darth Vader.......




Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

Actually, as there weren't any gungans in ME1 in the first place, "100% more" wouldn't actually add any.

Hehe someone else who got it

[DragonRageGT]

Well, Star Wars, for me at least, whom was alive and kicking at 13 yrs old in 1977, is episodes 4,5 and 6. The rest never happened!

BW should put ME3 for full price on GoG with no DRM and give ME1 and 2 for some 5-10 bucks each to anyone who doesn't already have them. It would certainly Polish the respect EA/BW might gain from their fans!

[Daeel]

Isn't 3 always the worst part of any trilogy. yes, they've sharpened their craft but they've also ran out of new material and we've gotten use to their techniques. It's how it works in movies and tv shows atleast.

[Mike Shepard]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Mike Shepard wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

ME1 relaunch now with 100% more gungans.

In the words of Darth Vader.......




Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

Actually, as there weren't any gungans in ME1 in the first place, "100% more" wouldn't actually add any.

Hehe someone else who got it

augh. tired. sleep needed. ugh. mental faculties not functioning properly...brain shutting down...error...cannot connect to server...data corrupted....critical erroooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrr..............

[MadLaughter]

I am of the opinion that watching things out of order, reading things out of order, or playing them out of order is a huge waste. If a character dies in Mass Effect 3, you will by definition care less about it only playing ME3 than you would if you had spent dozens of hours with them in ME1 or 2. If you want the emotional bang for your buck, this is the worst way to go.

Starting with ME3: "Oh hey, ME3 is cool! Gonna try the others! ME2 was pretty good, not as good as 3, didn't play with ____ squadmate since they die anyways.....ME1 is alright, not great though.."

As opposed to starting at the beginning. "ME1 is pretty good! Oh man, ME2 is even better! Wow, ME3 is the best one yet! I cried when _____ died" Overall enjoyment is better here.

[tetrisblock4x1]

In other words I think that last paragraph by Chris is telling BSN to lighten up and stop been so sensitive.

[AndrewRogue]

GENERALLY SPEAKING.

A well designed installment inn a series (e.g. Game 1, Game 2, Game 3, Book 1, Book 2, etc) should actually be a standalone product. Connections are fine, but you should, in general, avoid having the previous material be absolutely required for the enjoyment of the current material. Otherwise, you risk alienating players/readers/etc. In addition, it is generally just poor design. Any individual installment should be a complete, self-contained work.

Now, as the other side of this. Each installment should also be enchanced by the installments around it as well, otherwise having the other installments is as silly as having several installments that cannot be understood unless you put them in together.

So, while it sounds a bit silly? It isn't really isn't as silly as it sounds.

[habitat 67]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

In other words I think that last paragraph by Chris is telling BSN to lighten up and stop been so sensitive.

That would take truckloads of Xanax.