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[Nu-Nu]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Nonsense, changing? by what measure? what are the percentages? You sound like someone who believes that men and women are identical and all you need is to push the social engineering button and a man is a woman and a woman is a man. I wam willing to bet that men liking those genres still far outstrips women.

It's the whole nature versus nurture debate. How someone is brought up can effect that person deeply. If the mother is girly, the daughter is more likely to be girly, if she is more masculine, the daughter will most likely follow that lead. There are some differences, but they're not what's stopping more girls from picking up games and hardcore games.

Here is articles about how it's women that are going to see horror film these days. One article even says female help revive ticket sales of horror films -
http://www.signonsan...1c02horror.html
http://www.ew.com/ew...0293304,00.html


Lots of females that I know that don't play, say it's childish. Their mothers expected their fathers to provide/fix up the home/etc and not waste his time on childish things and gadgets, and so they picked up that habit. They like action and horror, but when it comes to games, oh no it's so childish. Try and find one woman that hasn't seen scream or final destination. Ok female are more interested in horror movies that have a pyschological horror like paranormal activity, instead of ones heavily based in gore like hostel. There's one difference.

Men might outstrip it for now, but females are catching up.

[Silver77nz]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

I come back to this thread to see again certain people not getting it. They made a big deal out of femshep with lets pick out her hair style and color. Why the hell go through all that trouble for nothing? Also Jennifer Hale deserves some attention for the job she has done. She is an amazing VA. Women deserve to know that their are more female characters in games now and that we are being given the option to play one. Most of the women have no idea due to the old sterotype that women don't play shooters and war games. Little girls have the right to see a strong female and not just some helpless sex object in games. Femshep is a female soldier and it is a good example for little girls that she too can join the army if she so desires or be a karate teacher, a police woman, or a fireman. Showing that a woman can be strong like femshep shows girls that women's only place isn't just in the kitchen. That sterotype is wearing out it's welcome real fast and the women in the kitchen jokes are just plan old and stupid. Times are changing and a new generation of kids are playing games including little girls. The statisics will change. More and more women are getting interested in video games because they are finding out that marketing is getting smart for once and realizing women want to play as well. That is the whole key word many people don't get!! It was promised!! People should keep their promise. I still have faith they will do it.

Femshep is a fantasy character and not a reflection of reality. How many real life women can live up a man's regime or physical standards? I mean, seriously, a couple of weeks ago my work colleague asked me to install the water jug onto the water filter because she wasn't strong enough to do it herself and hoist it up there. I like playing femshep as much as the next guy but come on?!

You didn't get my point. Period. I don't give a damn about if Femshep is fantasy or not. It's the fact that she is a strong female and a soldier. That is a good role model to little girls instead of them always turning on their damn TV's and seeing girls portrayed as sex symbols or the helpless damsel. The little girl doesn't have a clue that Shepard is a cyborg. What she see's is a strong woman which leadership ability.

Edit: Took out the rest of my message cause that would be a waste of breathe really.

Modifié par Silverpearl1977, 21 janvier 2012 - 06:48 .

[MizzNaaa]

Luc0s wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Indeed. Were fools because were excited about a promised trailer and its something were looking forward to after waiting years for it. What foolish to you is understandable to others.

Like I said, you may not get it or understand it. However that doesnt give you the right to try and belittle people and claim that your opinion is more valid. Just because you have no interest in it and think Bioware should be spending time on something else doesnt mean your right. You said your piece long ago but you still remain here purposely causing an argument. Your just here to troll and annoy femshep fans who have been wanting this for a long time.

No, you're not a fool for wanting a femShep trailer (hell, even I'm curious about it), you're a fool for thinking this trailer is in any way or form inmportant (to BioWare). The femShep trailer is just throwing you femShep fans a bone, there is nothing more to it. Some people say this femShep trailer is so important because otherwise BioWare would miss out on the female-gamer market (or something like that, lol ).

I also laugh at people who are totally rabid about the fact that the femShep trailer still isn't here, though BioWare still has more than a month of time left. I bet my 2 cents on BioWare releasing the femShep trailer together with the ME3 demo on february the 14th.



Listen, I understand you're psyched about the upcomming femShep trailer, but some of you really need to calm the f*ck down and take a chill pill. The trailer will come and most likely it will come together with the ME3 demo (or maybe a little earlier or a little later).

See, you're still doing it. You're still acting like you're the only one with the valid argument, that you're ABSOLUTELY right, and everybody else is just dumb cause they don't agree with you. And you're belittling all of us FemShep fans just to feel superior.

No, BioWare isn't 'just throwing us a bone'. Because making a whole new model, adding different animations, and marketing FemShep (as much as Sheploo) for the past few months is expensive. What you're trying to do here is to satisfy your ego by acting like you know it all, and we're all dumb for making a hype about something that IS big.

Now, you can be all butthurt about FemShep as you want. You can say whatever the heck you want, but please...drop the know it all act and stop trying to annoy the FemShep fans. It makes you look like an ass.

[JamieCOTC]

I'm sure we'll get femshep in a trailer at some point between now and March 6th. 

Until then, fans do it better anyway. 

[RynJ]

People who don't think a FemShep trailer is necessary: Why do you even care? If you don't care about it, that's great, but why are some of you saying Bioware shouldn't make it at all? It seems as if you have something against video games being marketed to females and that's a problem all your own. Apparently Bioware got some sense and wants to start appealing to a wider demographic, deal with it.

And also, this isn't about people wanting to see their specific Shepard in marketing. This is about wanting to see an ENTIRE GENDER (half of the friggin population) being acknowledged. Whether you like it or not, women play video games. More women then you think play video games, and even more would play if they weren't getting the impression that games like Mass Effect are only for men. Who wouldn't think that, if that's all you see in marketing? It's not enough to just have her in game for some people, why would those who have never played Mass Effect think you could play as a woman at all unless they saw her on a poster or in a trailer?

People who are against it make no sense to me. It sounds like you're offended that Bioware would dare acknowledge a demographic of players that isn't male. Why is it that appealing to more of a demographic bothers you, do women playing video games bother you or something? It just doesn't make any sense. Marketing to women has absolutely no effect on you and it makes Mass Effect appear accessible to a wider group of people.

The FemShep trailer was promised, many people want it, it helps market to female gamers and male gamers who like to play as a female, what's the downside and why are you so surprised people want it? I honestly can't think of a reason that isn't nonsensical, sorry.

And about men being physically stronger than women: Women can get plenty strong and what does strength matter if you're using a gun. And, by the way, Shepard is a cyborg who is already stronger than the average human. Like someone else said, why is a female having super human powers more unbelievable than a male having them? That is when it starts to sound like sexism (not accusing anyone of being sexist, just that some of the things some posters say do sound sexist whether you like it or not. And I'm not just being a crazy feminist which is your go-to argument)

[Seboist]

I'd prefer to see femshep finally get a credible physique than a trailer.

[Captain Crash]

Luc0s wrote...

No, you're not a fool for wanting a femShep trailer (hell, even I'm curious about it), you're a fool for thinking this trailer is in any way or form inmportant (to BioWare). The femShep trailer is just throwing you femShep fans a bone, there is nothing more to it. Some people say this femShep trailer is so important because otherwise BioWare would miss out on the female-gamer market (or something like that, lol).

I also laugh at people who are totally rabid about the fact that the femShep trailer still isn't here, though BioWare still has more than a month of time left. I bet my 2 cents on BioWare releasing the femShep trailer together with the ME3 demo on february the 14th.



Listen, I understand you're psyched about the upcomming femShep trailer, but some of you really need to calm the f*ck down and take a chill pill. The trailer will come and most likely it will come together with the ME3 demo (or maybe a little earlier or a little later).

When have I ever said its on their top priority list? You keep repeating the same point over and over again and wont let it drop even though I said long ago that I agree there are other pressing matters at the moment. Good things come to those who wait and all that,

Judging by the swearing and bad language you display in your last post (and the ones before) I can clearly see your a very immature person and the only person who needs to calm down and take a "chill pill" is yourself. This was a thread by a fan asking Bioware a question. Your business here is simply to troll, cause trouble and embarrass yourself it seems.

Luc0s wrote...

Haha, I think you're the only person who's butthurt here. I certainly am not butthurt. I'm actually quite amused. 

Yeah glad your attempted trolling amuses you so much.   Everyone else just pity's you as all these replies from different forum members are showing.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 21 janvier 2012 - 07:03 .

[Silver77nz]

Luc0s wrote...

MizzNaaa wrote...

No, BioWare isn't 'just throwing us a bone'. Because making a whole new model, adding different animations, and marketing FemShep (as much as Sheploo) for the past few months is expensive. What you're trying to do here is to satisfy your ego by acting like you know it all, and we're all dumb for making a hype about something that IS big.

Just as much as Sheploo eh??? So where are the femShep trailers? Where is the gameplay footage with femShep? Where are the articles and magazines with femShep on the cover?

Sorry, femShep might be big to you, but Sheploo is still the face and avatar of Mass Effect. He will always be the face of Mass Effect. I'm not a BioWare employee, but I bet my house on it that BioWare simply gave femShep that little extra attention because of her hardcore and vocal fanbase.

This is what is really bothering you. Sheploo will always be the face and avatar. Femshep will NEVER take his place EVER!! One trailer isn't going to take your Sheploo away from you. One trailer isn't going to replace sheploo. Thank you for pointing that statement out to us because that is your real concern. Sheploo will not be replaced.

[Ghost Warrior]

Sheploo ftw 

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 21 janvier 2012 - 07:00 .

[Silver77nz]

RynJ wrote...

People who don't think a FemShep trailer is necessary: Why do you even care? If you don't care about it, that's great, but why are some of you saying Bioware shouldn't make it at all? It seems as if you have something against video games being marketed to females and that's a problem all your own. Apparently Bioware got some sense and wants to start appealing to a wider demographic, deal with it.

And also, this isn't about people wanting to see their specific Shepard in marketing. This is about wanting to see an ENTIRE GENDER (half of the friggin population) being acknowledged. Whether you like it or not, women play video games. More women then you think play video games, and even more would play if they weren't getting the impression that games like Mass Effect are only for men. Who wouldn't think that, if that's all you see in marketing? It's not enough to just have her in game for some people, why would those who have never played Mass Effect think you could play as a woman at all unless they saw her on a poster or in a trailer?

People who are against it make no sense to me. It sounds like you're offended that Bioware would dare acknowledge a demographic of players that isn't male. Why is it that appealing to more of a demographic bothers you, do women playing video games bother you or something? It just doesn't make any sense. Marketing to women has absolutely no effect on you and it makes Mass Effect appear accessible to a wider group of people.

The FemShep trailer was promised, many people want it, it helps market to female gamers and male gamers who like to play as a female, what's the downside and why are you so surprised people want it? I honestly can't think of a reason that isn't nonsensical, sorry.

And about men being physically stronger than women: Women can get plenty strong and what does strength matter if you're using a gun. And, by the way, Shepard is a cyborg who is already stronger than the average human. Like someone else said, why is a female having super human powers more unbelievable than a male having them? That is when it starts to sound like sexism (not accusing anyone of being sexist, just that some of the things some posters say do sound sexist whether you like it or not. And I'm not just being a crazy feminist which is your go-to argument)

I like this human he/she understands:wizard:

[android654]

So many condescending f**ks. If you don't like femshep enough, then don't post here, why waste your time doing so.

As for the person who said they'd prefer Femshep to get a physique change and not a trailer, she should get both. But so should manshep since he looks quite out of shape as well. I can't really imagine him lugging a lot of stuff he carries around.

If femshep would get a body swap, she should look like Julia Budd, and maybe JAcob can show manshep how to workout for once.

[txmn1016]

JamieCOTC wrote...

I'm sure we'll get femshep in a trailer at some point between now and March 6th. 

Until then, fans do it better anyway. 

Couldn't agree more!  Thank f*** for creative fans.  They never cease to amaze me!

[slimgrin]

android654 wrote...

 she should look like Julia Budd.

Yeah but I still want her to look female.

[Captain Crash]

Edit:

Nevermind...   :innocent:

Modifié par Captain Crash, 21 janvier 2012 - 07:42 .

[android654]

slimgrin wrote...

android654 wrote...

 she should look like Julia Budd.

Yeah but I still want her to look female.

If you know Julia Budd, then you know she only dropped considerable weight for her last fight. Prior to that she looked perfect as a Thai Boxer, whihc is her sport. Femshep should look the same as she did when she was first starting out.

Modifié par android654, 21 janvier 2012 - 07:32 .

[Ghost Warrior]

This still?

LET.IT.GO.

[Stardusk78]

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

Silverpearl1977 wrote...

I come back to this thread to see again certain people not getting it. They made a big deal out of femshep with lets pick out her hair style and color. Why the hell go through all that trouble for nothing? Also Jennifer Hale deserves some attention for the job she has done. She is an amazing VA. Women deserve to know that their are more female characters in games now and that we are being given the option to play one. Most of the women have no idea due to the old sterotype that women don't play shooters and war games. Little girls have the right to see a strong female and not just some helpless sex object in games. Femshep is a female soldier and it is a good example for little girls that she too can join the army if she so desires or be a karate teacher, a police woman, or a fireman. Showing that a woman can be strong like femshep shows girls that women's only place isn't just in the kitchen. That sterotype is wearing out it's welcome real fast and the women in the kitchen jokes are just plan old and stupid. Times are changing and a new generation of kids are playing games including little girls. The statisics will change. More and more women are getting interested in video games because they are finding out that marketing is getting smart for once and realizing women want to play as well. That is the whole key word many people don't get!! It was promised!! People should keep their promise. I still have faith they will do it.

Femshep is a fantasy character and not a reflection of reality. How many real life women can live up a man's regime or physical standards? I mean, seriously, a couple of weeks ago my work colleague asked me to install the water jug onto the water filter because she wasn't strong enough to do it herself and hoist it up there. I like playing femshep as much as the next guy but come on?!

You didn't get my point. Period. I don't give a damn about if Femshep is fantasy or not. It's the fact that she is a strong female and a soldier. That is a good role model to little girls instead of them always turning on their damn TV's and seeing girls portrayed as sex symbols or the helpless damsel. The little girl doesn't have a clue that Shepard is a cyborg. What she see's is a strong woman which leadership ability.

Edit: Took out the rest of my message cause that would be a waste of breathe really.

All irrelevant. Women are biologically programmed to be sex symbols and men are biologically programmed to chase after them. Women=looks and youth, Men=money and resources. I was ever thus and Femshep won't change anything about it.

[King Minos]

'Troll' gets thrown around way too often. Your a troll if you voice your opinion.

[AlexXIV]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

This still?

LET.IT.GO.

Why should we let it go when it concerns us when you can't even if it doesn't?

[AlexXIV]

King Minos wrote...

'Troll' gets thrown around way too often. Your a troll if you voice your opinion.

Depends on your opinion tbh.