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[OmegaBlue0231]

Luc0s wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Who cares about a femShep trailer anyway?

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And this from someone who mains femshep.

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+overninethousand

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[AlexXIV]

Nu-Nu wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

And your sarcasm is falling flat. Point out where I ever said that she needed look like a grizzled witch. Lack of wrinkles is not what makes her look young. Nice try, though.

What is it then? I'd like to know where exactly femShep looks like a teenager. And why. Sorry but I don't see how Miranda looks one day older than 20 even though she is 35. It's just the same as the BS with DA2 where people say Merrill looks like a kid. Because adult people can't look young or be small or have child-like features. Mind you if people would actually complain about scars I could even understand the point because Shep's going through a rough time and such.

FemShep looks younger than Miranda, and Miranda was built to last longer and thus age slower. Femshep looks too young because she doesn't have dark baggy eyes, her skin is too plump, you lose puppy fat as you get older, Male Shep looks like he's desperate for a holiday, while femshep looks like she just had a very long holiday.

Well I am not against her looking tired or whatever. But if I recall right then the story goes that Shepard actually having a break between ME2 and ME3, even though forced.

[Nu-Nu]

AlexXIV wrote...

Nu-Nu wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

And your sarcasm is falling flat. Point out where I ever said that she needed look like a grizzled witch. Lack of wrinkles is not what makes her look young. Nice try, though.

What is it then? I'd like to know where exactly femShep looks like a teenager. And why. Sorry but I don't see how Miranda looks one day older than 20 even though she is 35. It's just the same as the BS with DA2 where people say Merrill looks like a kid. Because adult people can't look young or be small or have child-like features. Mind you if people would actually complain about scars I could even understand the point because Shep's going through a rough time and such.

FemShep looks younger than Miranda, and Miranda was built to last longer and thus age slower. Femshep looks too young because she doesn't have dark baggy eyes, her skin is too plump, you lose puppy fat as you get older, Male Shep looks like he's desperate for a holiday, while femshep looks like she just had a very long holiday.

Well I am not against her looking tired or whatever. But if I recall right then the story goes that Shepard actually having a break between ME2 and ME3, even though forced.

In the trailers, to me, Male Shepard still looks like he's away to cry from stress, even after the "rest".

[AlexXIV]

Nu-Nu wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Nu-Nu wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

And your sarcasm is falling flat. Point out where I ever said that she needed look like a grizzled witch. Lack of wrinkles is not what makes her look young. Nice try, though.

What is it then? I'd like to know where exactly femShep looks like a teenager. And why. Sorry but I don't see how Miranda looks one day older than 20 even though she is 35. It's just the same as the BS with DA2 where people say Merrill looks like a kid. Because adult people can't look young or be small or have child-like features. Mind you if people would actually complain about scars I could even understand the point because Shep's going through a rough time and such.

FemShep looks younger than Miranda, and Miranda was built to last longer and thus age slower. Femshep looks too young because she doesn't have dark baggy eyes, her skin is too plump, you lose puppy fat as you get older, Male Shep looks like he's desperate for a holiday, while femshep looks like she just had a very long holiday.

Well I am not against her looking tired or whatever. But if I recall right then the story goes that Shepard actually having a break between ME2 and ME3, even though forced.

In the trailers, to me, Male Shepard still looks like he's away to cry from stress, even after the "rest".

Yeah though it means maleShep's wrong, not femShep. Unless they had Shep in the Alliance torture chamber.

[What a Succulent Ass]

AlexXIV wrote...

What is it then? I'd like to know where exactly femShep looks like a teenager. And why. Sorry but I don't see how Miranda looks one day older than 20 even though she is 35. It's just the same as the BS with DA2 where people say Merrill looks like a kid. Because adult people can't look young or be small or have child-like features. Mind you if people would actually complain about scars I could even understand the point because Shep's going through a rough time and such.

It's the baby fat and the relatively large eyes in conjunction with the lips. As a said, we have a single picture of her, so it's likely just the concept art. I also don't actually care. It was just observation. Personally, I thought default FemShep in the first two games looked far too old, and even CGI Sheploo looks like a frazzled, middle-aged homeless man who's wandered into armour and is about to die of stress-related heart failure (which is understandable when your MO is doing the impossible to save the galaxy). She just looks rather rookieish, and it doesn't help that she's a dead-ringer for a younger Natalie Portman. As I said, though. Don't really care.

As for the others, you'd be very right - Miranda does look quite young (looks more like her early to mid twenties). And Merrill...well, Merrill is an elf. They all looked odd and squishy in DAII.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 19 janvier 2012 - 12:48 .

[Alanosborn1991]

Seriously Bioware how hard is it to get FemShep footage?

Just while you work out the bugs take screenshots and footage of it! It's not hard

I wonder with how many are working on ME3 who has actually seen her?

[Anthropophobic]

There aren't even all that many trailers of ManShep already anyway. There's that one really cheesy trailer with the generic rock music where he's like, "We fight or we die, that's the plan!" and then another trailer with some gameplay featuring a reaper and one line from Garrus's sexy voice and etc. I don't know of any others.

It'll probably come out later.

EDIT: Also, that one trailer with a reapers attacking London or something and Shepard's like in space.

Modifié par Anthropophobic, 19 janvier 2012 - 12:52 .

[AlexXIV]

Random Jerkface wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

What is it then? I'd like to know where exactly femShep looks like a teenager. And why. Sorry but I don't see how Miranda looks one day older than 20 even though she is 35. It's just the same as the BS with DA2 where people say Merrill looks like a kid. Because adult people can't look young or be small or have child-like features. Mind you if people would actually complain about scars I could even understand the point because Shep's going through a rough time and such.

It's the baby fat and the relatively large eyes in conjunction with the lips. As a said, we have a single picture of her, so it's likely just the concept art. I also don't actually care. It was just observation. Personally, I thought default FemShep in the first two games looked far too old, and even CGI Sheploo looks like a frazzled, middle-aged homeless man who's wandered into armour and is about to die of stress-related heart failure (which is understandable when your MO is doing the impossible to save the galaxy). She just looks rather rookieish, and it doesn't help that she's a dead-ringer for a younger Natalie Portman. As I said, though. Don't really care.

As for the others, you'd be very right - Miranda does look quite young (looks more like her early to mid twenties). And Merrill...well, Merrill is an elf. They all looked odd and squishy in DAII.

I don't even see Natalie Portman in her. And I have not gotten a good look at femShep close-up.

In this picture I see a young beautiful woman. Might be 20, might be 25, or might be 30. I agree she looks a bit too unscathed considering all the fighting and could have dark eyes or whatever. But I rather not have her look like a drug addict or zombie tbh.

[What a Succulent Ass]

But I rather not have her look like a drug addict or zombie tbh.

Heroin chic isn't necessary to look older, and I don't see how darker eyes would do anything. But yes, I agree. She doesn't need bags sagging down to her chin or her nipples flopping around somewhere around her ankles.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 19 janvier 2012 - 01:00 .

[AlexXIV]

Random Jerkface wrote...

But I rather not have her look like a drug addict or zombie tbh.

Heroin chic isn't necessary to look older, and I don't see how darker eyes would do anything. But yes, I agree. She doesn't need bags sagging down to her chin or her nipples flopping around somewhere around her ankles.

Ok she has Natalie's lips maybe. But other than that they look alike as much as Ronnie and James. Also Natalie looks pretty young too considering her age, no? Mind you it may be the make up, but then again ME is a video game ...

[1136342t54_]

Random Jerkface wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

What is it then? I'd like to know where exactly femShep looks like a teenager. And why. Sorry but I don't see how Miranda looks one day older than 20 even though she is 35. It's just the same as the BS with DA2 where people say Merrill looks like a kid. Because adult people can't look young or be small or have child-like features. Mind you if people would actually complain about scars I could even understand the point because Shep's going through a rough time and such.

It's the baby fat and the relatively large eyes in conjunction with the lips. As a said, we have a single picture of her, so it's likely just the concept art. I also don't actually care. It was just observation. Personally, I thought default FemShep in the first two games looked far too old, and even CGI Sheploo looks like a frazzled, middle-aged homeless man who's wandered into armour and is about to die of stress-related heart failure (which is understandable when your MO is doing the impossible to save the galaxy). She just looks rather rookieish, and it doesn't help that she's a dead-ringer for a younger Natalie Portman. As I said, though. Don't really care.

As for the others, you'd be very right - Miranda does look quite young (looks more like her early to mid twenties). And Merrill...well, Merrill is an elf. They all looked odd and squishy in DAII.

The eyes aren't really that big they look relatively normal. I don't see much baby fat either. CGI sheploo looks older than he should to be honest. Remember in ME the average age of a human is much higher than normal. Kahlee looks rather young and hot at 50 years old.  Miranda looking like she is younger than 30 is something that is explained in universe. She lives longer than a ME verse human.

[Slayer299]

Oddlyotter wrote...

 :| Demo is going to be out soon, where's mmy femshep trailer? It better come out with the Demo or around then. 

You mean the one we're not going to see prior to the ME3 launch??

[What a Succulent Ass]

Ok she has Natalie's lips maybe. But other than that they look alike as much as Ronnie and James. Also Natalie looks pretty young too considering her age, no? Mind you it may be the make up, but then again ME is a video game ...

I suppose it's a matter of opinion, then, because it looks like Natalie sat down for a face-modelling session to me (hell, they look more alike than Miranda and Strahovski do). Portman isn't that young looking without the make-up (still a gorgeous woman)...largely because she has a more defined jaw and smile lines. And to be fair, she doesn't go around saving the galaxy or getting her arse blown off by rockets every day.

Remember in ME the average age of a human is much higher than normal. Kahlee looks rather young and hot at 50 years old. Miranda looking like she is younger than 30 is something that is explained in universe. She lives longer than a ME verse human.

I know the average life span of the ME human. Unless I've missed a codex entry, though, that life span is due in large part to eradication of disease, which wouldn't completely correct for cellular degradation unless humans are engaging in some SENS-style mitochondrial tinkering. I don't remember how Kahlee looks, but Miranda gets a pass since she her father corrected for this. Probably.

Meanwhile, Zaeed looks and acts like an old man, but has just hit 40. Anderson and Chakwas also look about their age (by our standards), so I'm not giving that much truck.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 19 janvier 2012 - 01:24 .

[AlexXIV]

Yeah well maybe Bioware have a tendency to make males look older and females younger. The devs are mostly males mind you. But I still prefer femShep the way they made her look. When I saw her first time I was really amazed because she basically looks like I always tried to model her and never succeeded. Curse ME1/2 character creator. So I really want her look like that by default. I mean people can still make her look older or whatever.

[What a Succulent Ass]

I don't blame you for liking the design, especially since CC (especially for males) usually creates hideous beasts who are best stuffed deep within a .pcsav in a BioWare folder and never unleashed upon the unsuspecting denizens of the 'Net.

[1136342t54_]

Random Jerkface wrote...
I know the average life span of the ME human. Unless I've missed a codex entry, though, that life span is due in large part to eradication of disease, which wouldn't completely correct for cellular degradation unless humans are engaging in some SENS-style mitochondrial tinkering. I don't remember how Kahlee looks, but Miranda gets a pass since she her father corrected for this. Probably. 

Meanwhile, Zaeed looks and acts like an old man, but has just hit 40. Anderson and Chakwas also look about their age (by our standards), so I'm not giving that much truck.

Its likely the advances in Medical technology and genetic engineering actually helps extend the life span. Kahlee looked rather young and I believe in the second novel for someone who was 50.

Zaeed looking older than a 40 year old isn't the best example. This guy has been through many different conflicts and has received many scars for it. Both stress and physical harm done to him would not make his face turn out to pretty. Plus I'm not to sure on the voice. Bioware like giving some men in ME battle hardened voices.

Chakwas and Anderson can easily be another example of their looks not necessarily following the canon look for someone at their age. Either that or they just appear older than they are or Female Shepard looks younger than she really is. Hell my face has barely changed in the last 5 years.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 19 janvier 2012 - 01:56 .

[AlexXIV]

If Zaeed is really 40 it is ridiculous. I never really looked up his age but he looks rather 50+ to me.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 19 janvier 2012 - 02:00 .

[1136342t54_]

AlexXIV wrote...

If Zaeed is really 40 it is riciculous. I never really looked his age up but he looks rather 50+ to me.

He really should be but the **** he has went through I wouldn't necessarily be surprised he looks that old. 

[Lord Jaric]

AlexXIV wrote...

If Zaeed is really 40 it is ridiculous. I never really looked up his age but he looks rather 50+ to me.

How someone looks and what their age is doesn't always go hand in hand. Although I'm 22, people have mistaken me for a high school student.

[What a Succulent Ass]

It is likely. But we were never told this explicitly, as the only mods we've really heard about are prenatal disease correction or military (which I don't imagine would be an avenue for the average civilian). Zaeed looking old for his age was exactly my point. He's had a longer career than Shepard (depending on Shep's background), but Shepard's life isn't all cush and grapes. Hence why it's jarring for the design to look so young and pristine.

Chakwas and Anderson can easily be another example of their looks not necessarily following the canon look for someone at their age. Either that or they just appear older than they are or Female Shepard looks younger than she really is.

Also possible, but again, conjecture. If the characters who are older (Hackett, Anderson, Chakwas, Helena Blake, et al) look about how you would expect by modern day standards, Occam's razor would demand that characters who look young despite their age, occupation, and stress level, are the exception, not the rule.

EDIT: Yeah, Zaeed is only 40. I was just as surprised.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 19 janvier 2012 - 02:07 .

[didymos1120]

Zaeed isn't 40 anyway. That age comes from the ME2 site, which has...accuracy issues. For instance, Miranda is 35 in ME2 according to that page. Problem being, that means she was genetically engineered to be a biotic before first contact. I.e., years before anyone human had even heard of biotics, much less become one.

Now, let's look at Zaeed's case specifically. The Blue Suns were founded over twenty years ago, from Zaeed's own lips. So he wasn't even twenty years old at the time. This is already stretching plausibility to the breaking point. What's more, this happened after he'd served in the Alliance. Even if we're being charitable, that means he joined the Alliance at a ridiculously young age. So, yeah: whatever the actual age, Zaeed is significantly older than 40 years.

[1136342t54_]

Random Jerkface wrote...

It is likely. But we were never told this explicitly, as the only mods we've really heard about are prenatal disease correction or military (which I don't imagine would be an avenue for the average civilian). Zaeed looking old for his age was exactly my point. He's had a longer career than Shepard (depending on Shep's background), but Shepard's life isn't all cush and grapes. Hence why it's jarring for the design to look so young and pristine.

Actually as a bit of an explanation for Kahlee's look they said it was due to Humanity's life expectancy (although I suggest you read that part again) it would be another reason why books actually is more canon when it comes to the ME universe than the games can be. In the books armor is barely any help against Hypervelocity rounds but in game it actually is. 

Shepard should actually look rather young in comparison too most humans due to the upgrades from the Lazarus project and especially if you fixed your face in ME2.

Zaeed had a couple of decades of warfare and a slug to the face to give him that face. Shepard has been brought back to life with even the old scars healed. Both female and Male shep are unlikely to look exactly rough. Although if you look at the Male shepard cover art he doesn't look as rough as he does in game.

Also possible, but again, conjecture. If the characters who are older (Hackett, Anderson, Chakwas, Helena Blake, et al) look about how you would expect by modern day standards, Occam's razor would demand that characters who look young despite their age, occupation, and stress level, are the exception, not the rule.

EDIT: Yeah, Zaeed is only 40. I was just as surprised.

Then again we see a difference usually when we read the novels and they actually give explanations for when a older character looks younger. Male Shepard sounds oldere in ME1 than he is but looks like a male model.