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khronus Arkanus

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Hi everyone :)

I'm currently playing BG 1 with the trilogy mod installed. I have played Bg1 in the past a few times, but never actually completed ToSC.

Im currently at an early stage in the game and starting to assign weapon proficiencies to my characters, but I am unsure of a few things:
Will all my NPCs go into BG2 with my main character?
Will keep the weapon proficiencies I assign them now into BG2?
If they go to BG2, will I be able to assign them class kits at some point? Will they keep the weapons and armour I get in BG1?

My party consists of Adjantis, Kivan, Jahera, Brawen, Imoen and myself (gnome illusionist) and the answers to these questions will help me to plan now who is gonna use what weapons and which style of combat.

My party basically has:
3 Melees (Adjantis, Jahera, Kivan)
1 AC tank sheild and blade - Adjantis
1 two-handed style – Jahera
1 two weapon style – Kivan (mostly archer though)
2 Archers (Kivan and Imoen)
2 Healers (Branwen and Jahera)
2 Mages (Gnome illusionist and Imoen)
1 Thief (Imoen)


This is what I am planning, though it could change if my characters do not continue into BG2. Btw any comments on this is very appreciated:

Adjantis: Shield and Bastard sword for AC tanking (Long bows for ranged) or Two handed swords (more user friendly for ranged with long bows).
When I got him he was level 2 and had 2 slots in Bastard sword, 1 slot in sword and shield, and 1 in long bows.
Since he will only get 2 more slots until he caps at 8 at 161000xp (ToSC) and since the best bastard swords in ToSC are only +1, I thought of investing those 2 prof slots into longswords to use the Longsword +2 looted from the corpse of Greywolf (3-10 Dmg; THACO +2; +1 Cold Dam. Seems the best longsword in ToSC).
If he does continue with me into BG2, I could invest in Two-handed swords instead, and in BG 2 invest in two-handed style (though I’m not sure yet if two handed swords are the best weapons for him in BG2).

Kivan: Archery with Long bow of Marksmanship and two weapon fighting dualling Drizzt's scimitars.
When I got him he was level 2 and had 2 slots in Long bows, 2 slots in two weapon fighting style and 2 slots in spears.
He will also get 2 more slots until he caps at level 8 in ToSC, so the plan is to put one in scimitar and one in two weapon style (bringing it up to three slots and reducing penalty with off hand to -2).

Jahera: Two-handed fighting with quart staff or shield and dagger(slings for ranged).
When I got her she was level 1/1 and had 2 slots in quarterstaff and 2 in slings. There seem to be a few nice staffs up to ToSC, including a +1 from Silke very early in the game, to a +3(4-9 dmg); Staff Mace (4-10 dmg); Staff Spear +2 (4-11 dmg); and Staff of Striking (10-15dmg!!!).
Assuming the frequency she gets proficiencies is that of a fighter (not completely sure about that) and that she will be a Fighter6/Druid7 at ToSC level cap, she will get 2 more prof slots to spend, so the plan is to invest in dagger to use Dagger of venom with shield AC tanking until I can get hold of the better staves. The selection of clubs for ToSC seem really bad, though i read briefly in a BG2 forum that there are awesome clubs in BG2.
If she does continue in BG2 and retain the profs I gave her in BG1 it would probably be better to use 2 slots in clubs and in BG2 focus on two weapon style. Another alternative is to focus on two-handed style for the ubber quarterstaff in BG2 I also briefly read about but know not much about.

Brawen: Healing and ranged with sling mainly, occasionally melee with war hammer and shield buffed up by spells.
When I got her she was level 2 and had 1 slot in War hammer and 1 in slings.
She will use the Warhammer +2 looted from the corpse of Bassilus (4-7 dmg; THACO +2, +1 elec. dmg, which seems to be one of the best weapons in ToSC).
She will get 2 more slots until she caps at level 8 in ToSC, and since she is pretty much set up for BG1, where I should spend these depends if she goes into BG2 or not (and if she keeps the profs I choose in BG1) and on the best weapons in BG2 for her (yet to investigate).

Imoen Rog 6/Conjurer 9: Archer with short bows alternated with spellcasting + find traps, open locks, pickpocket.
When I got her she was level 1 and had 1 slot in Short bow and 1 in Short sword.
The options of short bows seem quite nice Short bow +1 and then Eagle bow (+2 dmg, THACO +2) and if she ever needs to meele there are a few short swords I will come across and she can have (+1, +2 and Short sword of backstabbing).
She will get 1 prof slot in her 6 levels as rogue and another 1 in her 9 levels as mage, and since she is also pretty much set up for BG1, where I should spend these depends if she goes into BG2 or not (and if she keeps the profs I choose in BG1) and on the best weapons in BG2 for her (yet to investigate).

Myself: Gnome illusionist spellcasting + ranged with darts (I find the darts' high ROF great for disrupting enemy spells).

Thanks in advance for any help/advice given.

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BG2 characters are;
Single - class = Minsc, Keldorn, Korgan, Valygar, Mazzy, Viconia, Cernd, Edwin, Yoshimo & Haer'Dalis
Multi - class = Jaheira, Aerie & Jan
Dual - class = Imoen, Nalia & Anomen

Modifié par ussnorway, 18 janvier 2012 - 11:54 .


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The BGTTweak mod allows you to take other NPCs through to BG2 as well - see
http://readme.spellh...TweakReadme.htm

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khronus Arkanus

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Thx for the reply and the link to the Twek pack. I think the tweak pack includes too much extra for my taste :(
I guess I should be content with having Imoen and Jahera back with me in BG2. Will they keep the weapon proficiencies I gave them in BG1 though?

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All answers for BGT

khronus Arkanus wrote...
Will all my NPCs go into BG2 with my main character?

No. Imoen, Jaheira, Minsc, Edwin, Viconia can, the rest will not.

Will keep the weapon proficiencies I assign them now into BG2?

Yes

If they go to BG2, will I be able to assign them class kits at some point? Will they keep the weapons and armour I get in BG1?

No, they transfer as-is. If you gave Jaheira the wisdom tomes she'd retain the extra stats in BG2.
*EDIT* Most equipment will be lost. A few items may transfer if you have them, it's complicated and I can't remember what website documented it.

My party consists of Adjantis, Kivan, Jahera, Brawen, Imoen and myself (gnome illusionist) and the answers to these questions will help me to plan now who is gonna use what weapons and which style of combat.

Ajantis, Kivan and Branwen won't transfer. Minsc is closest to Kivan, Viconia closest to Branwen if the evil alignment allows. You could run Ajantis in BG1 and pick Keldorn up in BG2 as a straight swap but he'll fight/kill Viconia unless you have the happy party element of certain mods installed.

Adjantis...

Long sword is a good choice.

Kivan...

Scimitar and two weapon style is OK, may be a bit of a pain switching to longbow and back though.

Jaheira...

Staff, dagger, sling are fine. Also consider the silver dagger for greater were's.

Branwen...

I would add sword & shield style.

Imoen Rog 6/Conjurer 9...

Maybe single weapon style as thief, staff dart or sling as mage.

Myself: Gnome illusionist...

Dart is a good choice imo. From memory there is a good one on the first level of Watchers Keep. I'd add dagger & single weapon style or staff and 2 handed style to reduce enemy melee attack bonus when you can. Good examples of both in BG2.

Modifié par Gate70, 19 janvier 2012 - 12:17 .


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khronus Arkanus

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Sorry I double posted something by mistake

Modifié par khronus Arkanus, 19 janvier 2012 - 12:13 .


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khronus Arkanus

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Thx for the reply Gate70!!!
That really helped :) Nice to see that what I was planning should work fine hehehehe

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khronus Arkanus

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A quick question:

If I take Minsc instead of Kivan and run through BG1, and dumped them before I go into BG2, when I find them again in BG2 will they have the class kits active on them? (Minsc with a ranger kit and which does he have? Jahera a fighter (kit)/druid or just plain fighter?

I've done some research and found out they don't have kits in BG2 hehehehe

Im considering getting Viconia and Keldorn to replace Adjantis and Branwen, but will I have problems with Viconia being evil? In BG1, at least in the last time I played it years ago, evil characters had a hard time being in my group, either fighting other party members or complaining endlessly about my high reputation before they decided to leave.

Modifié par khronus Arkanus, 19 janvier 2012 - 01:17 .


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Humanoid_Taifun

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Most mods that add BG1 characters to BG2 seem to just add them, but not add any dialogue or anything like that. So I guess in most cases it'b just the same to recreate them in Shadowkeeper (though you'd have to extract or download the sound files first).
By the way, there is a pretty good mod out that introduces Kivan to BG2. Of course, he'll look differently from how he looked in BG1, but that's one quick Shadowkeeper session (alter weapon proficiencies, HP, that's it)

khronus Arkanus wrote...
Thx for the reply and the link to the Twek pack. I think the tweak pack includes too much extra for my taste :(

You don't need to install all components. It has so many little components for a reason. Just think of it as of a buffet.

I guess I should be content with having Imoen and Jahera back with me in BG2. Will they keep the weapon proficiencies I gave them in BG1 though?

With BGT, they will.

khronus Arkanus wrote...
If I
take Minsc instead of Kivan and run through BG1, and dumped them before I
go into BG2, when I find them again in BG2 will they have the class
kits active on them? (Minsc with a ranger kit and which does he have?

None of the characters that are both in BG1 and BG2 have kits. That's not the fault of BGT, that was Bioware's decision.
Use the LVL1NPCs mod if you want to change that.

Im
considering getting Viconia and Keldorn to replace Adjantis and
Branwen, but will I have problems with Viconia being evil?

Keldorn will at some point attack Viconia. Sort of how Khalid/Jaheira would at some point start fighting Xzar/Montaron.
Oh and yes. Reputation is still an issue (until you reach ToB, at which point people stop caring, but ToB is to BG2 what MMO is to RPG, I guess.

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khronus Arkanus

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Thx for the reply Humanoid_Taifun.
Very detailed information, great help :)