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[LordMandalore]

www.youtube.com/watch


Step right up, step right up! You sir, gimmie a second! They said God himself couldn't sink this ship! Over 80 million dollars, and rumored to be possibly 500 big ones! Those poor souls got on that ship, and now only a month into the voyage they captain has run the ship straight into a big ol' iceburg! Luckily the crew is handing out some handy badges to those onboard to keep them on, since they're already trying to shoot the lifeboats full of holes!

tl'dr: End of Line for YOU Stanley Woo.

Modifié par LordMandalore, 19 janvier 2012 - 03:28 .

[Boiny Bunny]

I don't know what the point of this thread is - that was an exceptionally poor video...

[red dragon of baldur's]

Boiny Bunny wrote...

I don't know what the point of this thread is - that was an exceptionally poor video...

[magicalpoop]

It's because it's the truth, I and along many others have unsubscribed from SWTOR. The forum is full of rage ATM (SWTOR) that is. Hilarious titanic video

[jcainhaze]

I canceled my SWTOR membership about 5 minutes ago.

Here's the thing. I've had moderate to nice things to say about the game. After a couple of weeks of playing it's gotten pretty boring. I admit, I've had some fun but it really feels like a 1 player game. And, now I can't play it anymore without renewing. Eh.....it's not worth it.

I was actually debating wether or not I would renew come March when my membership is up. I was obviously leaning towards NOT renewing. But, then today I noticed my account is set to expire in four days at which time I will be charged for another 3 months. This really pissed me off since I paid through March. At that very moment I knew it wasn't worth the headache I've come to expect from EA/Bioware. I decided not to even attempt to get my 2 months of play time back and just cancel permanently so I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER get charged by them again.

So basically after it's all said and done, I had a pretty negetive experience over all.

Over $100 invested in a game that was moderate at best and I only had access to play for about 30 days.  This probably qualifies as a minor financial disaster.  I'm not sure if I can even express the disappointment.  A absolute terrible value.

This isn't for dramatic affect or anything but I'm really disgusted by EA and Bioware.  This experience combined with Dragon Age 2 has really let me down.

I have prepaid Mass Effect 3 in full.  Tomorrow I will go get my money back and put it towards something else.  As much as I want a good experience from ME3 I can't feel good about doing anything Bioware on prelease again.

Modifié par jcainhaze, 19 janvier 2012 - 08:44 .

[Dapper Pomegranate]

jcainhaze wrote...

I was actually debating wether or not I would renew come March when my membership is up. I was obviously leaning towards NOT renewing. But, then today I noticed my account is set to expire in four days at which time I will be charged for another 3 months. This really pissed me off since I paid through March. At that very moment I knew it wasn't worth the headache I've come to expect from EA/Bioware. I decided not to even attempt to get my 2 months of play time back and just cancel permanently so I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER get charged by them again.

Actually, you haven't paid any subscription fees yet. You got a free month for buying the game. Your three month subscription begins and will be charged when that month is up.

Modifié par FrozenFire42, 19 janvier 2012 - 08:56 .

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

 I knew it, I knew I wasn't the only one who saw what a failure this game was.
Now I await the true sequel to KOTOR and of course ME3:D

[Inquisitor Recon]

Wow. That was an odd.

Is SWTOR bad or just boring? I'm not much of a MMO person but I presume it doesn't stray too far from the formula of most MMOs?

Also who is the person with the glasses?

Modifié par ReconTeam, 19 janvier 2012 - 09:03 .

[Clover Rider]

ReconTeam wrote...

Wow. That was an odd.

Is SWTOR bad or just boring? I'm not much of a MMO person but I presume it doesn't stray too far from the formula of most MMOs?

Most of my friends who are into MMOs say it's fine, yeah it's not too far from formula but that does not make it bad, in my view.

I may get it when I have the $$$.

Modifié par Some Geth, 19 janvier 2012 - 09:07 .

[Chromie]

ReconTeam wrote...

Wow. That was an odd.

Is SWTOR bad or just boring? I'm not much of a MMO person but I presume it doesn't stray too far from the formula of most MMOs?

Also who is the person with the glasses?

Let's just say story matters not in an MMO game. Story is finite and saying that it counts as endgame is content is a lame excuse. Granted I don't hate the game and I will be keep playing since I've been playing with friends but it's obvious Bioware was forced to once again release a game to early and worse still haven't learn how to make proper environments. Hoth, Tatooine and Alderaan are amazing and very detailed but that is 3 out of 17 planets.

But what the OP said is stupid if TOR forums are correct than TOR just sold 2 million copies of the game.

Modifié par Ringo12, 19 janvier 2012 - 09:10 .

[Deathwurm]

I'm not a Fan of Star Wars or pay-to-play MMO's and I had a feeling that as much of a built-in audience the Game has, it was going to tank...

I have heard or read nothing about the Game other than the ire over the 30-day free period, I simply think that Pay2Play MMOs are on their way out permanently.

[Chromie]

Deathwurm wrote...

I have heard or read nothing about the Game other than the ire over the 30-day free period, I simply think that Pay2Play MMOs are on their way out permanently.

No they aren't. Believe it or not there is a demographic who hates F2P and would be much happier in a P2P game. I know I would. I'm all for pay to play and buy to play but never pay to win models.

[Clover Rider]

Deathwurm wrote...

I'm not a Fan of Star Wars or pay-to-play MMO's and I had a feeling that as much of a built-in audience the Game has, it was going to tank...

I have heard or read nothing about the Game other than the ire over the 30-day free period, I simply think that Pay2Play MMOs are on their way out permanently.

What makes you say that about Pay2Play MMOs?

And I don't think the game has tanked yet...

[Gotholhorakh]

Has the game really tanked in any way, or is it a moderate-to-strong MMO that has annoyed a bunch of its players unintentionally with bugs?

From what I can understand, it's option 2, and most of what I've seen posted online seems like bugs in the game and also their automation of warnings and payment system?

It's far from ideal, in fact I can understand why people are pissed off because I would be, but isn't this the sort of thing MMOs get, and patch out?

Ringo12 wrote...
Bioware was forced to once again release a game to early and worse still haven't learn how to make proper environments. Hoth, Tatooine and Alderaan are amazing and very detailed but that is 3 out of 17 planets.

If they're amazing and detailed, BioWare does know how to make environments though, right?

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 19 janvier 2012 - 09:31 .

[Chromie]

Gotholhorakh wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...
Bioware was forced to once again release a game to early and worse still haven't learn how to make proper environments. Hoth, Tatooine and Alderaan are amazing and very detailed but that is 3 out of 17 planets.

If they're amazing and detailed, BioWare does know how to make environments though, right?

Well let me rephrase that. Bioware has the potential to make some great environments but they fall flat. 3/17 is not great it's not even adequate. Old Republic is an MMO persistent worlds that you will experience for many years should you choose to I think environment design is much more important to this genre of games than any other. Hopefully Bioware can take some of the feedback and make more planets feel like a sandbox instead of a corridor.

Modifié par Ringo12, 19 janvier 2012 - 09:27 .

[Gotholhorakh]

Ringo12 wrote...

Gotholhorakh wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...
Bioware was forced to once again release a game to early and worse still haven't learn how to make proper environments. Hoth, Tatooine and Alderaan are amazing and very detailed but that is 3 out of 17 planets.

If they're amazing and detailed, BioWare does know how to make environments though, right?

Well let me rephrase that. Bioware has the potential to make some great environments but they fall flat. 3/17 is not great it's not even adequate. Old Republic is an MMO persistent worlds that you will experience for many years should you choose to I think environment design is much more important to this genre of games than any other. Hopefully Bioware can take some of the feedback and make more planets feel like a sandbox instead of a corridor.

Ah well. At least, I suppose, it's a strength of the MMO model that you can usually rely on the developer continuing to develop content for the game, so it will flesh out, rather than being left as sparse as it was at launch. All successful MMOs do this.

Ew, flashback of driving a mako around ME wasteland *shudder*

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 19 janvier 2012 - 09:32 .

[Deathwurm]

Some Geth wrote...

Deathwurm wrote...

I'm not a Fan of Star Wars or pay-to-play MMO's and I had a feeling that as much of a built-in audience the Game has, it was going to tank...

I have heard or read nothing about the Game other than the ire over the 30-day free period, I simply think that Pay2Play MMOs are on their way out permanently.

What makes you say that about Pay2Play MMOs?

And I don't think the game has tanked yet...

It's simply my opinion...

I don't see very many successful P2P MMO's out there anymore...It seems that virtually everything ends up going F2P. I don't think in the current Economy that P2P is a good business model...even WoW is having trouble holding subscribers. I just think it's an idea whose time has come.

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Ringo12 wrote...

Deathwurm wrote...

I have heard or read nothing about the Game other than the ire over the 30-day free period, I simply think that Pay2Play MMOs are on their way out permanently.

No they aren't. Believe it or not there is a demographic who hates F2P and would be much happier in a P2P game. I know I would. I'm all for pay to play and buy to play but never pay to win models.

And why not, what's the difference iof it P2P or F2P?
It doesn't mean there's any less quality in the games. Especially if the game in question usees in-game stores to make a profit.

[mousestalker]

Every MMORPG I have ever played generates these 'Doooom' threads. Immediately upon release, the WoW forums filled up with threads saying how each OP intended to cancel their subscription. The original EQ forums were extraordinarily toxic for a long time. City of Heroes totally sucked upon release. The list of 'doomed' projects goes on and on.

For whatever reason, the general areas of MMORPG forums fill up with these gaming Jeremiahs, who post endless rants to each other about the upcoming gaming apocalypse. Sometimes the self appointed prophets are even right. [Insert reference to blind squirrels and nuts here]

Maybe the game is doomed. Maybe it's a great success. It's a safe bet that you won't learn the truth of the matter from the gamers forums. There are reliable information sites and they will start posting actual facts shortly.

[Seagloom]

Not every F2P MMO utilizes the same model. I agree F2P MMOs that offer unbalanced perks to those who shell out the cash for them suck; but that is by no means universal.

As for SWtOR, I don't see how this is different from any other AAA MMO release. None were perfection at launch. They all go through regular update cycles. To play an MMO in its best state you need to wait a year or two for the developer to fix issues, tweak gameplay, and add content.

I'm not saying anyone disappointed in SWtOR has no basis for their feelings. Rather, that they should not be all that surprised if the game feels rough around the edges. Why would SWtOR be any different than other MMOs in this regard? Because BioWare/LucasArts marketing said so? C'mon.

Modifié par Seagloom, 19 janvier 2012 - 11:11 .

[TheChris92]

I'm playing the game. I've only had it, and played it, for less than a few weeks. It's only been out in a short amount of time, too short to truly say that it is "doomed in my opinion. Right now I'm enjoying it, and I think the stories are very exciting and interesting. It's fun to play it with a couple of friends, whom is playing it too. One can of course still be critical towards it, or disappointed that it isn't the Kotor 3 they were asking for, that's all well and fine. Right now, I think it is fair to give it the benefit of the doubt. Every MMO will eventually have an expiration date but right now I think it is best to be patient. I'll definitely be playing it for a little bit yet.

[LPPrince]

I've gotta ask-

Is this a spam thread or a legitimate subject?

Cause I swear I didn't do anything.

[Terminatort800]

What is this thread for? I don't get it.

[LPPrince]

Yeah, that first post looks like random jargon at first glance.

[Sinmara]

I have a lot of fun in the game and my guild as well. And we are all "old mmo gamers" who know a lot of games - DAoC, WoW, LotRO, Rift ..... We have a lot of fun with the storytelling, start now the first raids with an ally. Every MMO has some bugs, there are not as much as I know from other starts. Its a lot of content to play and some refreshing new ideas. And our guild is growing. :-)

And its like in every new MMO, after the first days there will come the "prophets" and come and tell everyone in forum, the MMO will die. And it will not. Everytime the same nonsens.

F2P is no good way for a game, it changed for a example LotRO to a worst game, but its a lot of money they earned. I hope, this will never come for SWTOR.