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[darrenecm]

Other than dropping the dfifficulty down from Normal to easy, can someone please tell me how I'm supposed to defeat Loghain in a one-on-one duel. Even Alastair, in his full suite of Juggernaut armor is beaten to a pulp within 30 seconds and I spend 3/4 of my time sutffing healing potions down my neck. I also have Alastair using the Starfgang sword and this barely makes a mark on Loghains health.

It's really starting to get frustrating being stuck at this spot, unable to proceed no matter who I choose to fight Loghain. I've been trying various tactics with everyone but always get my ass handed to me.

[Zilod]

Alistair need some pots but is doable with him, if you have troubles try with morry, she works ok with a decent spec

[Sarcen]

I had no trouble at all with my warrior, quite easy (on normal mode). I'm assuming it would be pretty easy with mages aswell if you cone of frost and stun and knockback etc.

[TimelordDC]

My rogue just stunned him with dirty fighting and brought him down to 75%. Then, riposte for a further few seconds of stun and finishing him off after that. This was on Normal. So, try with a rogue if you can. Or just use Morrigan.

[TheNecroFiend]

He was a yellow con for me on Hard and didn't prove to much of a problem. What is your character? And if your having problems just lean on your potions and whittle him down.

[bambooxfox]

I had the hardest time with Loghain on my warrior PC. My mage wiped the floor with him, however, so yes, try Morrigan. Keeping Loghain stunned/paralyzed/knocked down or otherwise incapacitated is key.

[Lennonkun]

Even with my AW/BM I had some difficulty on Loghain, actually had to pop 2 pots or so.

[Rorran81]

For sword/shield PC: You need to outlast him. Keep up shield wall. Having up too many sustained abilities limits your options. Use your knockdown and stun abilities whenever stamina/cooldowns allow. Use an attack speed increase potion if available. Chain-chug health potions.

If you have at least 1 point in poison-making, coat your weapons in and chuck something nasty at him.

Modifié par Rorran81, 23 novembre 2009 - 06:42 .

[glen55]

There is a spoiler in your title.

[therealmikeg]

glen55 wrote...

There is a spoiler in your title.

This is the spoiler forum.  Thanks for your post.

[Myzzrimm]

therealmikeg wrote...

glen55 wrote...

There is a spoiler in your title.

This is the spoiler forum.  Thanks for your post.

Completely irrelevant. That's for spoilers in a topic. browsing the titles shouldn't spoil the game for a person. Thanks for *your* post.

[therealmikeg]

Myzzrimm wrote...

therealmikeg wrote...

glen55 wrote...

There is a spoiler in your title.

This is the spoiler forum.  Thanks for your post.

Completely irrelevant. That's for spoilers in a topic. browsing the titles shouldn't spoil the game for a person. Thanks for *your* post.

If reading this ruins the game for you, then you have a sad existence.  Thank you for thanking me for my post.

[Myzzrimm]

therealmikeg wrote...

Myzzrimm wrote...

therealmikeg wrote...

glen55 wrote...

There is a spoiler in your title.

This is the spoiler forum.  Thanks for your post.

Completely irrelevant. That's for spoilers in a topic. browsing the titles shouldn't spoil the game for a person. Thanks for *your* post.

If reading this ruins the game for you, then you have a sad existence.  Thank you for thanking me for my post.

Didn't say "ruins." I said "Spoils". Which is exactly what the title did. Yet another moot point. Thank you for thanking me for thanking your post.

[therealmikeg]

Myzzrimm wrote...

therealmikeg wrote...

Myzzrimm wrote...

therealmikeg wrote...

glen55 wrote...

There is a spoiler in your title.

This is the spoiler forum.  Thanks for your post.

Completely irrelevant. That's for spoilers in a topic. browsing the titles shouldn't spoil the game for a person. Thanks for *your* post.

If reading this ruins the game for you, then you have a sad existence.  Thank you for thanking me for my post.

Didn't say "ruins." I said "Spoils". Which is exactly what the title did. Yet another moot point. Thank you for thanking me for thanking your post.

This subforum doesn't contain the "Do not post spoilers in thread titles" rule that the other spoilers forum has.  Again, thanks for the thanking.

[glen55]

"This subforum doesn't contain the "Do not post spoilers in thread titles" rule that the other spoilers forum has. Again, thanks for the thanking."



(1) Pretty obvious that's just an oversight in a new forum. Every other Bioware spoilers forum has it.



(2) Regardless of that, what is the point of putting a spoiler in the title? Is it so vital to you that you attract people to your object subject that you just don't give a damn about whether you ruin other people's enjoyment of the game?



It's not just some arbitrary thing that Bioware asks people not to put spoilers in the title because they're a**hats that don't want you to have fun. There's a reason for it, and it's a good reason: there's very very little if anything to gain by putting a spoiler in the title, and it can significantly hurt other people's enjoyment of the game.

[therealmikeg]

glen55 wrote...

"This subforum doesn't contain the "Do not post spoilers in thread titles" rule that the other spoilers forum has. Again, thanks for the thanking."

(1) Pretty obvious that's just an oversight in a new forum. Every other Bioware spoilers forum has it.

(2) Regardless of that, what is the point of putting a spoiler in the title? Is it so vital to you that you attract people to your object subject that you just don't give a damn about whether you ruin other people's enjoyment of the game?

It's not just some arbitrary thing that Bioware asks people not to put spoilers in the title because they're a**hats that don't want you to have fun. There's a reason for it, and it's a good reason: there's very very little if anything to gain by putting a spoiler in the title, and it can significantly hurt other people's enjoyment of the game.

1.  Their mistake.  Not the OP's.

2.  I'm not the original poster.  You probably would have noticed that if you read the thread.  How else is the guy supposed to get help without posting a spoiler in the title.

3.  As I stated earlier, if this ruins your enjoyment of the game then you lead a sad life.

Thanks for your post.

[Zamav]

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Its within rules and common sense.

Anyways, back to topic, a mage can defeat Loghain pretty easily, in fact, I consider it a bad performance to take a swing (even if it misses) while dueling with him. He is so easy its laughable.

I can see how a warrior character can have problem with him though, easiest way is to switch to a Mage that has some kind of crowd control ability.

Modifié par Zamav, 23 novembre 2009 - 08:18 .

[TheMufflon]

Your problem is that you're using Alistair, who really isn't very good at 1-on-1 combat. Try using either a rogue with a lot of stuns or a mage. I beat him with my DW rogue without him scoring a single hit.

[Sharog]

Any mage can beat Loghain hands down really, even one with nothing but just heals, and rogue can always just stealth, pot, and go again, but yeh as said, only alistair suck at this fight really, anything else mobs him up in couple seconds.

[Rugaru]

Stomped the tar out of him with my 2h maul using dwarf sunder and armor pen take his fancy smancy suit out of the game then its just swing for his head while he is on the ground

[Mork_ba]

I tried him with my mage and Morrigan and he was extremely easy to kite around and kill without touching me (Especially with morrigan having paralyze,sleep, cold snap, cone of cold, mass paralysis and hexes )...



Tried it with my rogue a while ago and had to take a normal pot just to be on the safe side. Ah, and a deathroot coating just for rp reasons. Had momentum open and my weapons gemmed with paralysis ( 1 grandmaster, 1 master and 3 journeyman paralysis runes, lol ) and he fell almost automatically







As for a warrior I don't know, didn't give it a shot...





Try playing around with your runes and coatings a bit... If you have poison making throw some soulrot bombs at him they do awsome damage...

[Spell Singer]

I have to admit this is one of the most immersion wrecking points in the game for me. I originally thought ok 1 on 1 duel and my warrior steps in. I have armour 35, I'm using shield and sword and have my family sword (yes that one from the origin...I used it though most of the game). The fight lasts oh 15 s. He is hitting for 40-60 points through that armour. I have full champion abilities as well.

I tried 4 more times in each case trying rock salve and quickness salve and increasing the number of potions. Eventually 3 potent and 5 greater and few normal and lesser heal potions plus the quickness salve later I win just barely. Plus I changed to a dragonbone longsword with additional lightning damage and paralysis chance plus physical resist. Still he was going 40+ points per hit through my armour and I was doing 20-25 or so to him.

He has I would guess 400-600 hits and I missed him with an attack bonus of around 110 while he was paralyzed. Then I see him after the joining and what a shock. My character had him beat hands down, more health, more stamina, higher stats, better skills with sword and shield, better attack bonuses etc.

You are fighting Über-Loghain in that fight...he is boosted from the looks of things x2 or x3 over what the character is like after he joins your party.

This is on hard difficulty...had I lost the last one I was going to drop to normal.

Modifié par Spell Singer, 16 décembre 2009 - 02:41 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

darrenecm wrote...

Other than dropping the dfifficulty down from Normal to easy, can someone please tell me how I'm supposed to defeat Loghain in a one-on-one duel. Even Alastair, in his full suite of Juggernaut armor is beaten to a pulp within 30 seconds and I spend 3/4 of my time sutffing healing potions down my neck. I also have Alastair using the Starfgang sword and this barely makes a mark on Loghains health.

It's really starting to get frustrating being stuck at this spot, unable to proceed no matter who I choose to fight Loghain. I've been trying various tactics with everyone but always get my ass handed to me.

One more thing I don't liek about the game. Taht bosses are 10 times tougher simpyl becasue tehy are bosses. Screw that.
An Ogre or a dragon having a whole lot of HP's and armor? Ok, makes sense.

But for that bastard Howe in light armor to have more HP and armor rating than my whole party combined? WTF???? Increase the toughenss of his bodyugards or put more of them if you want ot make the battle difficult. Not this redicolously overpowered "normal" opponents.

[Chragen]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

darrenecm wrote...

Other than dropping the dfifficulty down from Normal to easy, can someone please tell me how I'm supposed to defeat Loghain in a one-on-one duel. Even Alastair, in his full suite of Juggernaut armor is beaten to a pulp within 30 seconds and I spend 3/4 of my time sutffing healing potions down my neck. I also have Alastair using the Starfgang sword and this barely makes a mark on Loghains health.

It's really starting to get frustrating being stuck at this spot, unable to proceed no matter who I choose to fight Loghain. I've been trying various tactics with everyone but always get my ass handed to me.

One more thing I don't liek about the game. Taht bosses are 10 times tougher simpyl becasue tehy are bosses. Screw that.
An Ogre or a dragon having a whole lot of HP's and armor? Ok, makes sense.

But for that bastard Howe in light armor to have more HP and armor rating than my whole party combined? WTF???? Increase the toughenss of his bodyugards or put more of them if you want ot make the battle difficult. Not this redicolously overpowered "normal" opponents.

Just get a character that is is not half assed, and you'll soon realize that the easiest opponents in the game are the bosses. I've yet to meet a boss that lasts longer than  15-20 sec against my rogue, unless the boss use a lot of knockback/crowd control.

Almost a bit aggravating that so many complain about the game being hard. Maybe Bioware should have made a nightmare+++ difficulty for us who want a proper challenge

[XOGHunter246]

once you have potions and shield wall Alistair should be simple on any difficulty this goes to anyone ofc not the shield wall part