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[silentoption]

For Me Miranda Lawson, is one character coming back in ME3 since she played an integral part in bringing Shepherd back. The fact she turn against Cereburus on the last mission by siding would have serious repercussion. At least she DLC option for ME 3 then Jack is.

[silentoption]

For Me Miranda Lawson, is one character coming back in ME3 since she played an integral part in bringing Shepherd back. The fact she turn against Cereburus on the last mission by siding would have serious repercussion. At least she DLC option for ME 3 then Jack is.

[wright1978]

[quote]Cthulhu42 wrote...

Of course it does. As i said a page earlier, if you are going 2 choose just 2 ME2 squaddies(which i don't agree with) then choosing both Tali & Garrus is wrong from a gaming perspective. You should be choosing 2 like for example Tali or Legion where people would have to make a choice. Forcing both Tali & Garrus is a clear sign they are scared of reaction of not including them as squaddies. If they could sell not being squaddies as being good you wouldn't have the broken squad system where there's a high liklihood of punishing some players doubly with less squaddies and rewarding others doubly with more.[/quote]
That seems to be nothing more than assumptions and conjecture there, as opposed to solid evidence from the leaked script which does show some ME2 characters (Mordin and Legion being good examples) as having fairly large roles, regardless of their lack of squad status.
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No i've read the leak and wouldn't say that at all. As i said if their roles were so great Bioware wouldn't have minded doing it to at least one of Tali/Garrus.

[silentoption]

damn repost

[AnakinSkywalker2]

1) what makes everyone think the Collector's Edition DLC Character is a freaking Prothean and not Aria T'Loak herself? what proof or links do you guys have to support this claim? (read the invasion comics)

2) I grow very tired of seeing Liara, Vega, Ashley, and Garrus in the Promotional Content for this game, why in the blank will they not show anyone else like say hmmmm..... KASUMI, MIRANDA, JACOB, JACK, GRUNT, ZAEED, SAMARA, gees bioware.

3) and last but certainly not least, if we only have Vega, Ashley/Kaidan, Garrus, Tali, and Liara as permenants how in the heck are we suppose to build on the romances we have with Jack or Miranda, Jacob, Thane, etc. if they are not part of our squad full time? or atleast the majority of the time traveling with us. I get a feeling Bioware will go the cheap cop out route and find some way to kill off your romance options except for Ashley/Kaidan, and Liara just to avoid the content. I really think whoever you chose to be your love interest in the previous games should be a permenant squadmember in the 3rd installement. PERIOD

[AdmiralCheez]

@Anakin: Mass Effect has romance in it, but that is hardly the focus of the trilogy. It is not necessary to have your LI with you at all times.

[Hedera]

AnakinSkywalker2 wrote...

1) what makes everyone think the Collector's Edition DLC Character is a freaking Prothean and not Aria T'Loak herself? what proof or links do you guys have to support this claim? (read the invasion comics)

They accidentally released a photo waaaaay back when of the Collector's edition contents that said "Bonus Misson and Squadmate:  The Prothean"

3) and last but certainly not least, if we only have Vega, Ashley/Kaidan, Garrus, Tali, and Liara as permenants how in the heck are we suppose to build on the romances we have with Jack or Miranda, Jacob, Thane, etc. if they are not part of our squad full time? or atleast the majority of the time traveling with us. I get a feeling Bioware will go the cheap cop out route and find some way to kill off your romance options except for Ashley/Kaidan, and Liara just to avoid the content. I really think whoever you chose to be your love interest in the previous games should be a permenant squadmember in the 3rd installement. PERIOD

I've read the spoilers.  You're wrong.  Most of the romances had fulfilling endings, even as of that old script.

Oh, and TankingTickwhatever, I'm no Tali/Garrusmancer, and I think the squad will be fine.  

Modifié par cgrimm54, 21 janvier 2012 - 12:45 .

[Alex Arterius]

It woulda been cool to have like Liara (my me1 LI) and Miranda (my ME2 LI) both as squaddies, think of the drama it coulda caused

I think Bioware missed a trick by not imcluding her, and I aint a MASSIVE fan of Mirandas comapred to others

shame

[AgitatedLemon]

TankingTick wrote...

Hilarious.

All the people saying that the squad is fine Bioware has limited resources characters will develop their story without being in the squad blahblah are ALL GARRUS AND TALIMANCERS. Jesus you got Cthulhu42 and Sally with Mass in the thread. Game over. Objectivity is dead.

I think it's safer to say

"Everyone who thinks the ME3 squad is satisfactory as-is, has favorites in it, and doesn't want to f*ck that up"

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 21 janvier 2012 - 12:56 .

[FFinfinity1]

Arcian wrote...

Budget. Time constraints. Content cuts.

Bioware said ME3 Singeplayer was fully playable by December of 2010, plus they delayed the game to March 6th instead of November. Meaning they had about an extra year and 3 months to do what they wanted. I think they had a more than adequate budget and time, they probably know what their doing.

[Mclouvins]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

TankingTick wrote...

Hilarious.

All the people saying that the squad is fine Bioware has limited resources characters will develop their story without being in the squad blahblah are ALL GARRUS AND TALIMANCERS. Jesus you got Cthulhu42 and Sally with Mass in the thread. Game over. Objectivity is dead.

I think it's safer to say

"Everyone who thinks the ME3 squad is satisfactory as-is, has favorites in it"

You can flip that so easily, at the end of the day the dev's decided that the way they designed the squad/narrative was the best method using the resources available. Is it fair that people who really like certain ME2 exclusive squad members won't see them return to full-time, not really, but who are we to cherry pick which ones could return (and having all of them would make the game a rts, not a crpg). Nobody is going to be perfectly happy with what we're getting, but as that philosopher Mr. Jagger once said, you can't always get what you want, but you'll find sometimes you get what you need.

[FFinfinity1]

Honestly I love every character in ME2 and their back story, its just that 12 characters was ridiculous and it made the game tedious as hell to get them again and again and again. I really did enjoy the 3-6 squad members you could have in ME1, yet in ME2 you needed 8 just to finish the game. It was just to many for my taste and I prefer deeper character ties.

[AgitatedLemon]

Mclouvins wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

TankingTick wrote...

Hilarious.

All the people saying that the squad is fine Bioware has limited resources characters will develop their story without being in the squad blahblah are ALL GARRUS AND TALIMANCERS. Jesus you got Cthulhu42 and Sally with Mass in the thread. Game over. Objectivity is dead.

I think it's safer to say

"Everyone who thinks the ME3 squad is satisfactory as-is, has favorites in it"

You can flip that so easily, at the end of the day the dev's decided that the way they designed the squad/narrative was the best method using the resources available. Is it fair that people who really like certain ME2 exclusive squad members won't see them return to full-time, not really, but who are we to cherry pick which ones could return (and having all of them would make the game a rts, not a crpg). Nobody is going to be perfectly happy with what we're getting, but as that philosopher Mr. Jagger once said, you can't always get what you want, but you'll find sometimes you get what you need.

Except for the glaring logical missteps in the current squad lineup.

If Kaidan is dead (Like he is for me), you have no Sentinel-esque squadmate.

Or the fact that Tali and Garrus are involved, at all.

[implodinggoat]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Except for the glaring logical missteps in the current squad lineup.

If Kaidan is dead (Like he is for me), you have no Sentinel-esque squadmate.

Or the fact that Tali and Garrus are involved, at all.

Though I do like Garrus and Tali the versatility of the ME3 squad is a big concern.

The only Sentinel in the game may be dead, leaving you without access to the most versatile class in the game.

If you don't have Kaiden you'll start the game with Ashley and James Vega, both Soldiers, which is extra problematic if like me you play as a Soldier.

Liara is the only biotic in the game if you don't get your hands on the Collector's edition.

And if you got Tali and Garrus killed then the spoiler squaddie is the only tech in the game.

[Peer of the Empire]

silentoption wrote...

For Me Miranda Lawson, is one character coming back in ME3 since she played an integral part in bringing Shepherd back. The fact she turn against Cereburus on the last mission by siding would have serious repercussion. At least she DLC option for ME 3 then Jack is.

Liara recovered the body, and for me that is quite a favor and the only redeeming feature of hers, annoying bore that she is.  She is lucky that Bioware had her do that.  Although I'm about to play Lair of the Shadow Broker

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 21 janvier 2012 - 01:28 .

[AgitatedLemon]

implodinggoat wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Except for the glaring logical missteps in the current squad lineup.

If Kaidan is dead (Like he is for me), you have no Sentinel-esque squadmate.

Or the fact that Tali and Garrus are involved, at all.

Though I do like Garrus and Tali the versatility of the ME3 squad is a big concern.

The only Sentinel in the game may be dead, leaving you without access to the most versatile class in the game.

If you don't have Kaiden you'll start the game with Ashley and James Vega, both Soldiers, which is extra problematic if like me you play as a Soldier.

Liara is the only biotic in the game if you don't get your hands on the Collector's edition.

And if you got Tali and Garrus killed then the spoiler squaddie is the only tech in the game.

I wonder just how much effort they really put into the ME3 squad choice.

[Peer of the Empire]

implodinggoat wrote...
In ME2 some of the squad members were underpowered (Jack, Jacob),  overpowered (Kasumi), overly specialized (Tali),  very similar to one another (Thane and Samara), or had a power set which didn't have any focus (Legion).  Giving us fewer; but more versatile squad members helps to clear up a lot of those problems. 

I recall that Thane and Legion were my highest damage squad when left on autopilot on Insanity.  This was determined after some testing.  I had a Vanguard with squad Incendiary.  Give Thane max Shredder

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 21 janvier 2012 - 01:38 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Should of kept Kasumi and ditched Ashley plus Legion instead of Kaiden ;3

How will they explain away bringing yet more dead people back to life (of which for people quite a few in list could of died) in a Bioware game if there isn't enough alternatives to fill in the blanks. I'll see how it turns out I guess but I was partly hoping to see Kasumi and Legion on my team. Though Jack would of been heading in the direction of the airlock mid flight and without a suit regardless if she was in it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 21 janvier 2012 - 02:00 .

[Saiyan1126]

Peer of the Empire wrote...

silentoption wrote...

For Me Miranda Lawson, is one character coming back in ME3 since she played an integral part in bringing Shepherd back. The fact she turn against Cereburus on the last mission by siding would have serious repercussion. At least she DLC option for ME 3 then Jack is.

Liara recovered the body, and for me that is quite a favor and the only redeeming feature of hers, annoying bore that she is.  She is lucky that Bioware had her do that.  Although I'm about to play Lair of the Shadow Broker

Do this. As a person who hated Liara in both ME 1&2, LotSB redeemed her character in my eyes.

[Kid Buu]

The ME2 squad was a mess. So many redundant squadmates.

[AgitatedLemon]

Kid Buu wrote...

The ME2 squad was a mess. So many redundant squadmates.

 A lot of them weren't terribly useful, either, aside from a few niche areas.

 The 2 most obvious ones I would say are Samara and Jack.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 21 janvier 2012 - 02:06 .

[Aimi]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

The ME2 squad was a mess. So many redundant squadmates.

 A lot of them weren't terribly useful, either, aside from a few niche areas.

 The 2 most obvious ones I would say are Samara and Jack.

Jack, Samara, Legion, and Thane, from most redundant to least redundant. Mordin and Tali were the most niche. 

[AgitatedLemon]

daqs wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kid Buu wrote...

The ME2 squad was a mess. So many redundant squadmates.

 A lot of them weren't terribly useful, either, aside from a few niche areas.

 The 2 most obvious ones I would say are Samara and Jack.

Jack, Samara, Legion, and Thane, from most redundant to least redundant. Mordin and Tali were the most niche. 

Though of course it also depends on what class Shepard is and what weapon upgrades he took. If you're an Infil. and you maxed out Sniper and Biotic damage, then Thane is arguably the most useful overall combat oriented squadmate.

Then again, I don't know many Infils. who maxed out biotic damage, or put any points into it.

Of course, my Sentinel Shepard synchs really well with Miranda and any tech or biotic specced squadmate, so I had lots of wiggle room, and my experience probably isn't the best.