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[Aggie Punbot]

android654 wrote...

You keep people around because they're hotter? Even if they're a carbon copy of the person you killed them for? Interesting...

If this person got Miranda killed on the Suicide Mission, Oriana had better watch out.

[Dariustwinblade]

D.Kain you make cerberus fanboys seem mild.

[clennon8]

D.Kain wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

 I wrote a fanfic that touches on this topic.  Warning NSFW.  
http://www.fanfictio...076964/1/Hollow

Not bad, but not what how I see Morinth's personality. 

Thanks for reading. Could I ask you to elaborate, though? I'm not trying to pick a fight. Just curious to know where you think I went wrong.

[D.Kain]

clennon8 wrote...

Thanks for reading. Could I ask you to elaborate, though? I'm not trying to pick a fight. Just curious to know where you think I went wrong.

It's hard to pick a fight with me, I understand that everyone has a different opinion. 


But about her character. You wrote in your fic: 

"Shepard had proven to be far less fun than she initially hoped. She was tired of life aboard the Normandy." 


Going on a suicide doesn't sound like hope for fun. It might have been fun in the process indeed, but for one who has clinged to her life for 400 years, to needlesly throw away her life seems to be rather silly. She knew that the odds would be that she would not return from the mission, yet she wouldn't have been alive in the first place if it wasn't for Shepard. So she went on this mission as a sign of gratitude, there was nothing that could stop her from leaving Shepard in her appartment, or leaving Shepard dead for that matter. Samara dead, Shepard has no weapons or protection, also clearly an inferior biotic, she could have just cracked his skull and be done with it. 
So I believe that Normandy is where she wanted to be. 

Second thing that seems to be out of her character, and again this is my opinion, is that she wanted to kill Shepard. I do not believe that she wanted to kill Shepard, but rather that she really hoped that he could survive. She made a gamble, and if Shepard accepts it, the gamble fails. Thing with this is, that I explained before is that she could already kill Shepard if she really wanted to before in her appartment where it was safe to do so, might even have tortured him until his mind was weak enough to not be able to resist her. Also killing Shepard aboard Normandy is a suicide, or the crew or if the crew somehow fails, EDI would clearly kill Morinth, and there is no way to escape an AI ship. So again a silly move.

So yeah. Just don't see her the way you do. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 27 janvier 2012 - 04:12 .

[clennon8]

You make several suppositions that I wouldn't make, but yeah, opinions may vary.

The one thing I'll agree with you on is that Morinth likely wouldn't leave the ship alive, because of EDI. But I'm only taking the same license that the Bioware writers did when they did the in-game "Critical Mission Failure" scene with Morinth. Plus, if I really wanted to, I could cook up some workaround, like there being a privacy setting in the room. Whatev.

[D.Kain]

clennon8 wrote...

You make several suppositions that I wouldn't make, but yeah, opinions may vary.

I wouldn't call it suppositions, more like conclusions. But yeah opinions vary, will find out in ME3. 

[Indoctrinated Spectre]

Bottom line : Dominate>Reave

[FaWa]

Morinth is a much more interesting character than Samara, in my opinion. She really has it going on. That's why I usually try to pick her up and kill that other biatch

[Ice Cold J]

Indoctrinated Spectre wrote...

Bottom line : Dominate>Reave

You can always pick Morinth to unlock dominate, then shut down and load an earlier save... it still unlocks the power for you.

[Jackmitch93]

Well I killed Samara because I think she would try to kill Shep after the Reapers are dealt with... Then I sent Morinth to her death on the Collector Base

[I_Jedi]

I feel confident that Samara/Morinth will try to take you out either way, so I killed Samara to troll the justicars.

[D.Kain]

Yay more Morinth supporters.

Modifié par D.Kain, 08 février 2012 - 12:33 .

[FaWa]

Morinth is a very good character imo. I just do not trust Samara's main priorities are the Reapers. Morinth does not have any other major goals other than sex, which Samara is a justicar for gods sake. (Or Godess in this case)

[zmichwr]

i liek morinth :3 but i have a feeling that she may not follow you in the next one in which case i would have to be sad

[D.Kain]

zmichwr wrote...

i liek morinth :3 but i have a feeling that she may not follow you in the next one in which case i would have to be sad

Samara follows Shepard, so will Morinth. She is just a temporary squadie, perhaps will do something behind the scenes.

[fighterchick]

FaWa wrote...

Morinth is a very good character imo. I just do not trust Samara's main priorities are the Reapers. Morinth does not have any other major goals other than sex, which Samara is a justicar for gods sake. (Or Godess in this case)

I've always thought that Morinth had the potential to be a great character, but that she wasn't done much justice in ME 2.  If they intended her to be a squaddie like she obviously was, then I don't know why they didn't give her more dialogue and background.  It would have been nice to be able to talk to her like a normal squad member, but she had very little to say.  I feel like she was skimped a bit and added last minute.  

Anywho, I like both Samara and Morinth.  I have plenty of Sheps that saved Samara and Morinth in different playthroughs.  

[ncknck]

Why is this not in ME2 forum, i see no relevance to ME3.

That having said, i choose Morinth, because she is more reliable and i can sympathize with her.

First of all she is not a serial killer. She was born with the weakness and did not choose to be one. At worst, she is mentally disformed. But many people are.

Secondly, reliability, as im sure someone already said. Morinth is driven by her biological asari urges. As perverted as they are, they are still understandable and controllable. So she wants to have sex with people. Who doesnt? Cant really say she is uncontrollable, otherwise every human on Earth is too.

Samara is driven entirely by her code. It creates constant conflicts with her real personality(we know nothing about btw), which should result in her being completely crazy on the inside, due to said battle in her mind. Secondly, we do not actually know the Code. Which is a huge problem, as because of that she could kill us any second for, well, anything. Look at all the zealots we have on Earth. Mention Muhammad in a bad context, and for certain people youre a death target. No thanks Samara. The cold blooded killer of your own daughter.

Not in my game.

[khordlambert]

Why am I not at all surprised to see Cerberus' regular cheerleaders here are fans of recruiting Morinth? Most of you lot just refuse to push anything but the red icons no matter the context don't you?

[ZehnWaters]

ncknck wrote...

Why is this not in ME2 forum, i see no relevance to ME3.

That having said, i choose Morinth, because she is more reliable and i can sympathize with her.

First of all she is not a serial killer. She was born with the weakness and did not choose to be one. At worst, she is mentally disformed. But many people are.

Uh, yes, she IS a serial killer.  Did you not play her quest?  She seeks people out, not so she can socialize with them, but so she can purposefully kill them.  When she seduces Shepard she doesn't 'genuinely think he'll survive' she's trying to trick him/her into having sex with her so s/he'll be out of the way and the only person on the ship who knew who she was will be gone.  What part of her seduction and domination of a whole village from which she demanded sacrifices from didn't any of you understand?  She's evil.

Secondly, reliability, as im sure someone already said. Morinth is driven by her biological asari urges. As perverted as they are, they are still understandable and controllable. So she wants to have sex with people. Who doesnt? Cant really say she is uncontrollable, otherwise every human on Earth is too.

Samara is driven entirely by her code. It creates constant conflicts with her real personality(we know nothing about btw), which should result in her being completely crazy on the inside, due to said battle in her mind. Secondly, we do not actually know the Code. Which is a huge problem, as because of that she could kill us any second for, well, anything. Look at all the zealots we have on Earth. Mention Muhammad in a bad context, and for certain people youre a death target. No thanks Samara. The cold blooded killer of your own daughter.

Not in my game.

You're assuming she is at constant variance with her Code.  From what we can tell she's not.  She will not kill us at any second, she's explicitely stated she'll wait until after the mission.  Assuming, of course, you're a douche-bag.  In which case, maybe you deserve it.

[dreman9999]

nelly21 wrote...

Daeel wrote...

I think we are perverting the meaning of psychopath.

Simply seeking freedom is not psychopathic.

Actually, Morinth is the very definition of a psychopath. She lacks emotion, remorse for her actions and is a liar.She may claim to "seek freedom" but that isn't what drives her. She is addicticted to empowerment she receives from killing her mates and continues in this vein to satisfy said addiction.

So yeah, she is a poster child for psychopathy.

Looking at it from a tactical perspective, it would be idiotic to trust a wild card like Morinth over a skilled and far more stable Samara. But this is a game. So do whatever you want dude. Let us know what changes in ME 3. 

More like she just addicted to the sex and takes in all the death and destution as an adrinaline junkie because that's all she has left.

[HAGA NAGA]

Daeel wrote...Especially when I can get her hotter, younger equally as strong Daughter.

meh. Matriarch Benezia was way hotter than either one....

blue boob veins ftw everytime

[D.Kain]

khordlambert wrote...

Why am I not at all surprised to see Cerberus' regular cheerleaders here are fans of recruiting Morinth? Most of you lot just refuse to push anything but the red icons no matter the context don't you?

Dude, those are so different things. Cerberus doesn't like aliens, and Morinth is an asari. I don't really know how two go together. Personally I don't support cerberus but support Morinth. I mean cerberus would probably lock her in a lab somewhere to see what AY are, I wouldn't want that.

Modifié par D.Kain, 12 février 2012 - 06:01 .

[D.Kain]

ZehnWaters wrote...

Uh, yes, she IS a serial killer.  Did you not play her quest?  She seeks people out, not so she can socialize with them, but so she can purposefully kill them.  When she seduces Shepard she doesn't 'genuinely think he'll survive' she's trying to trick him/her into having sex with her so s/he'll be out of the way and the only person on the ship who knew who she was will be gone.  What part of her seduction and domination of a whole village from which she demanded sacrifices from didn't any of you understand?  She's evil.
people. Who doesnt? Cant really say she is uncontrollable, otherwise every human on Earth is too.

 

That's your OPINION. I personally think she seeks out not very good people to gain more power, for a bigger mission, which is a speculation, but everything is, with the amount of blanks given on Morinth. 

Kasumi and Grunt know who Morinth is. Morinth is kinda evil, but I wouldn't expect any less from her, when she is being hunted.

ZehnWaters wrote... 
You're assuming she is at constant variance with her Code.  From what we can tell she's not.  She will not kill us at any second, she's explicitely stated she'll wait until after the mission.  Assuming, of course, you're a douche-bag.  In which case, maybe you deserve it. 
Not in my game.

What Samara is, a Justicar, people like that just drive me up the wall. I hate everything about  Samara. I mean she is written good, and I like her as a character. But having a white&black view on everything instead of getting into each specific situation with mind and heart, and making it an enforced law, that is worse to me than the reapers.

[NKKKK]

Can anyone pm me the results of leaving Morinth alive in ME3.