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[Aimi]

This whole thread is kind of uninteresting.

Most people seem to have recognized that Prazza had some internal justification for doing what he did. His behavior was explicable; even if you don't agree with the logic he used, the logic is still there. Which is, you know, one of the side effects of good writing: people don't do things for no freaking reason at all.

So, beyond that, what's there to discuss? Personal opinions on whether he's a hero or not, of which nobody will convince anybody else?

[Kaiser_Wilhelm]

daqs wrote...

This whole thread is kind of uninteresting.

Most people seem to have recognized that Prazza had some internal justification for doing what he did. His behavior was explicable; even if you don't agree with the logic he used, the logic is still there. Which is, you know, one of the side effects of good writing: people don't do things for no freaking reason at all.

So, beyond that, what's there to discuss? Personal opinions on whether he's a hero or not, of which nobody will convince anybody else?

He's such a minor character, I don't really see the point.

[Kaiser_Wilhelm]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Kaiser_Wilhelm wrote...

Since they just fought mechs, it'd be understandable to be on the defensive.

Right and considering Cerberus and the quarians recently fought one another in a blood battle on a quarian ship (which was after Cerberus slaughtered a quarian squad on an uncharted world) it is understandable that Prazza would be hostile on Freedom's Progress.

Except Tali shows that Shepard is a friend and the squad shows no hostility at all. It's not understandable that Prazza still acts hostile to them, he even keeps a gun raised on them when they have theirs down.

Modifié par Kaiser_Wilhelm, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:20 .

[Spoiledrotten]

Prazza was the first to show hostility, not Cerberus.

Cerberus was the first to show hostility by attacking the flotilla. He has every right to be cautious.

They only wanted to capture him because they didn't trust the quarians to foward the data from his omnitool. No doubt, Prazza's actions helped cement that in their minds.

But Tali promised them the data! Are you saying that they shouldn't just blindly take her word for it? But Prazza has to?

Keep in mind, quarians, or indeed everyone, has the right to be suspicious of Cerberus. They do not exactly have a confidence inspiring reputation.

[Kaiser_Wilhelm]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Kaiser_Wilhelm wrote...

Except Tali shows that Shepard is a friend and the squad shows no hostility at all.

No she didn't. All she did was suggest (or get Shepard to suggest) that they cooperate to reach Veetor. That in no way implies that Cerberus is friendly. Especially once the mechs are gone or once they've reached Veetor.

Depending on morality choices, Tali and Shepard can act friendly to each other.

Spoiledrotten wrote...

Prazza was the first to show hostility, not Cerberus.

Cerberus was the first to show hostility by attacking the flotilla. He has every right to be cautious.

They only wanted to capture him because they didn't trust the quarians to foward the data from his omnitool. No doubt, Prazza's actions helped cement that in their minds.

But Tali promised them the data! Are you saying that they shouldn't just blindly take her word for it? But Prazza has to?

Keep in mind, quarians, or indeed everyone, has the right to be suspicious of Cerberus. They do not exactly have a confidence inspiring reputation.

Suspicion doesn't give Prazza a reason to disobey orders and lead a squad to death.

Modifié par Kaiser_Wilhelm, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:23 .

[WhiteKnyght]

Prazza was an idiot. No doubt about it.

[Spoiledrotten]

Suspicion doesn't mean Prazza is a hero for disobeying orders and leading a squad to death.

He is if he did it for a noble cause. He wanted to keep a mentally unstable youth out of terrorists hands. Pretty damn noble if you ask me. And his reasoning isn't exactly unwarranted. Impulsive though. Like I said, I'd cooperate until we actually get to Veetor. Three of them vs ten of us. Still, he probably never expected the heavy.

[Kaiser_Wilhelm]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Kaiser_Wilhelm wrote...

Depending on morality choices, Tali and Shepard can act friendly to each other.

Which doesn't prove anything about Shepard's or Cerberus' motivations there.

Except that they showed absolutely no signs of hostility.

[Aimi]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Well it was interesting enough for you to feel compelled to post in it so kiss my butt.

Compulsive post-count acquisition disorder.

[Kaiser_Wilhelm]

Spoiledrotten wrote...

Suspicion doesn't mean Prazza is a hero for disobeying orders and leading a squad to death.

He is if he did it for a noble cause. He wanted to keep a mentally unstable youth out of terrorists hands. Pretty damn noble if you ask me. And his reasoning isn't exactly unwarranted. Impulsive though. Like I said, I'd cooperate until we actually get to Veetor. Three of them vs ten of us. Still, he probably never expected the heavy.

Once again, Cerberus didn't even show any plans of capturing him, they only wanted to talk to him.

Modifié par Kaiser_Wilhelm, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:30 .

[naledgeborn]

People (BioWare included) really need to stop making their LIs into pseudo-badasses.

Tali: Mechanic =/= good ground team leader
Liara: Archaeologist =/= good intelligence agent

Modifié par naledgeborn, 20 janvier 2012 - 01:30 .

[Spartanburger]

naledgeborn wrote...

People (BioWare included) really need to stop making their LIs into pseudo-badasses.

Tali: Mechanic =/= good ground team leader
Liara: Archaeologist =/= good intelligence agent

Thisthisthisthisthis.

[Spoiledrotten]

Kaiser_Wilhelm wrote...
Once again, Cerberus didn't even show any plans of capturing him, they only wanted to talk to him.

Let them "talk" to him then, see how it work out for him.

Again, it's Cerberus. It's like al-Qaeda wanting to talk to your fellow solider. I wouldn't trust them.

[Seboist]

naledgeborn wrote...

People (BioWare included) really need to stop making their LIs into pseudo-badasses.

Tali: Mechanic =/= good ground team leader
Liara: Archaeologist =/= good intelligence agent

Tali becomes far more ridiculous in ME3 and Garrus too.