I'm playing through on hard, and I was thinking of roling my party as:
Warden (backsttabbing rogue)
Sten (DPS off-tank?)
Zevran (make him an archer)
Morrigan (DPS)
How much more difficult does the game get without a tank like Alistair? I've used a tank for my past 3 playthroughs, and wanted to change it up
No Tank?
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By The Stone
, janv. 20 2012 03:03
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Posté 20 janvier 2012 - 04:52
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IMO, your party will suffer more due to lack of healing (which helps in hard and NM modes) rather than lack of tank. I did a no-tank playthrough and a no-healer playthrough before on hard, and I felt that the no-healer playthrough eventually ended up using up much more poultices compared to the no-tank one.
Some things that may make a no-tank party much more easier to play :
- When you make your melee dpsers to be dex-based (i.e. DW dagger warriors, DW dagger dex rogues), you will find that a dedicated sword-shield tank character isn't that required actually. A small thing that should be kept in mind however, is that both rogues and DW warriors lack any knockdown immunity that a sword-shield and a 2H warrior have.
- Also depends on how many CC mages you bring into the party. One may make it challenging, but having 2 mages with all CC on their disposal make a no-tank party really trivial, with 2x paralysis explosions, 2x blood wounds, 2x force fields and prisons, 2x cones of cold, 2x sleeps, 2x mana clashes, 2x misdirection hexes. If you only want to bring one CC mage however, without tank you may need a it of heavier use of traps and bombs.
- For the rogues, it depends whether you would want to give your DPS warriors Taunts or not. If you don't you may not be able to backstab mobs as often due to lacking the awesome aggro-holding capability of Taunt, exposing their backs for you to backstab.
Some things that may make a no-tank party much more easier to play :
- When you make your melee dpsers to be dex-based (i.e. DW dagger warriors, DW dagger dex rogues), you will find that a dedicated sword-shield tank character isn't that required actually. A small thing that should be kept in mind however, is that both rogues and DW warriors lack any knockdown immunity that a sword-shield and a 2H warrior have.
- Also depends on how many CC mages you bring into the party. One may make it challenging, but having 2 mages with all CC on their disposal make a no-tank party really trivial, with 2x paralysis explosions, 2x blood wounds, 2x force fields and prisons, 2x cones of cold, 2x sleeps, 2x mana clashes, 2x misdirection hexes. If you only want to bring one CC mage however, without tank you may need a it of heavier use of traps and bombs.
- For the rogues, it depends whether you would want to give your DPS warriors Taunts or not. If you don't you may not be able to backstab mobs as often due to lacking the awesome aggro-holding capability of Taunt, exposing their backs for you to backstab.
Modifié par MizarAlcor, 20 janvier 2012 - 04:54 .
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Posté 20 janvier 2012 - 05:38
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I agree with mizar, without a tank its really annoying to play a backstabbing rogue. You can do without, but its really annoying since you don't have someone to hold their attention so you can backstab more often.
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Posté 20 janvier 2012 - 01:08
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PC or Console? I ask because the former is harder than the latter on every difficulty. You can run DAO without a tank, but I agree on the higher difficulties a healer would be more important. Odds are you'd be the tank in a way I think.
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Posté 20 janvier 2012 - 08:52
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I'm playing on the 360, and I was more thinking to head to the dalish as soon as I leave lothering and making like 300 health poultices. but you make a good point about the aggro ability of the tank. But who should I swap out? I've never played through with Zev so I picked him as more of a character piece really.
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Posté 20 janvier 2012 - 09:02
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Oh and while I have your attention, would you saw that a dual wielding backstabber is better or dagger buckler? I heard of that combo and thougfht it would be interesting
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Posté 23 janvier 2012 - 07:44
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personally, i love no tank, dps, healer mechanism. Most of my play troughs don't have any actually. Alistair himself is a bad tank to be tank anyway. Mostly i just give everything that come to my mind for the party members. Example, Alistair an assault W&S warrior, Morrigan as Arcane Warrior, Shape Shifting Wayne...ect. i like it when in battle, everybody just do what i set them up to be, not as according to mechanic.
yes, there will be a problem, because the game is designed to such mechanic, and poor AI. But well, i enjoy 3 mages and one rogue...the rogue is only for picking locks and disarm traps however, if not because of that, 3 Arcane Warriors mages is okay for me.
yes, there will be a problem, because the game is designed to such mechanic, and poor AI. But well, i enjoy 3 mages and one rogue...the rogue is only for picking locks and disarm traps however, if not because of that, 3 Arcane Warriors mages is okay for me.
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Posté 27 janvier 2012 - 01:06
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By The Stone wrote...
I'm playing on the 360, and I was more thinking to head to the dalish as soon as I leave lothering and making like 300 health poultices. but you make a good point about the aggro ability of the tank. But who should I swap out? I've never played through with Zev so I picked him as more of a character piece really.
Probably swap out Morrigan for Wynne. Or at the very least make sure Morrigan has Heal.
I once did an all-warrior run through and I LOVED it. No healer and no tank (DW warden, DW Alistair, Dog/Shale and Sten/Oghren). Was an absolute blast and FAR from the most difficult runthrough. If you're keen to use Zevran, I'm sure he can hold his own as either DW or archer, but probably best to go with the former, really. Who needs a tank when you can just bulldoze in and flatten the darkspawn? (Ps, the one thing that can scupper this plan is an enemy mage, so make sure someone is a Templar. Holy SMite ftw
:D).
