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[HTTP 404]

its not shortchanging when you lower your expectations right?

[ediskrad327]

Bioware! STOP CHANGING HIM!

[BounceDK]

Bioware DLC prices is the number 1 ripoff on the entire interweb. Prices never drop like they should.

[AlanC9]

Daeel wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Daeel wrote...


Zaeed was apart of the game if it was released the same day. Don't be naive.

That's certainly a distinct possibility.  It is not, however, a settled fact.

If it was released the day of. It is a fact.

Yep. All automobiles come with the full option packages. If you didn't get that stuff in your car, then the dealer deliberately held back part of your car.

As for the prices, I actually think Bio's making a mistake here. They're leaving a lot of money on the table by not having reduced prices or a GOTY edition. I suppose the thinking might be that they don't want to train gamers to just hold out for the sale, but I'm not sure they wouldn't get just about as many of the early adopters to buy at full price anyway.

Modifié par AlanC9, 20 janvier 2012 - 07:25 .

[CannonO]

AlanC9 wrote...

Daeel wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Daeel wrote...


Zaeed was apart of the game if it was released the same day. Don't be naive.

That's certainly a distinct possibility.  It is not, however, a settled fact.

If it was released the day of. It is a fact.

Yep. All automobiles come with the full option packages. If you didn't get that stuff in your car, then the dealer deliberately held back part of your car.

As for the prices, I actually think Bio's making a mistake here. They're leaving a lot of money on the table by not having reduced prices or a GOTY edition. I suppose the thinking might be that they don't want to train gamers to just hold out for the sale, but I'm not sure they wouldn't get just about as many of the early adopters to buy at full price anyway.

Retailers love sales. Their savior is a party they all participate in here in the States called "Black Friday". BioWare should consider how many people they could get to buy this stuff if they put it on sale (they have before actually, haven't they?. I know I am one to check the Xbox Live Deals of the Week.

And an automobile is at its best when you have all options. It is the finest version if you select all the upgrades. DLC and upgrades aren't the same thing. We don't have any confirmation from BioWare if they imagined the best version of ME3 with that DLC or not and if that DLC was perhaps once a part of the original ME3 idea set before being set aside.

ME3 should be at its best without DLC and simply given some optional bonuses that aren't necessary to receive the greatest complete experience of ME3 as it relates to ME1 and 2 before the addition of any later content.

Basically, is the DLC on day one something that was meant to be in the game originally? Hopefully not. If it was, that means they have short changed us of the conclusion if we believe the disk to be THE ME3, rather than a version missing some stuff BioWare thought should be played in our first playthroughs..

[Captain Iglo]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

DLC should really be priced as a percentage of the main games price, based on the amount of content added by the DLC as compared to the package.

lol then the DLCs for Call of Duty would cost more then the actual game 

[Chiantirose82]

wrong quote /sigh

Modifié par Chiantirose82, 20 janvier 2012 - 08:34 .

[Gotholhorakh]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

What's worse is the fact that DLC prices do not depreciate over time, unlike the price of the actual game. Fun fact: thanks to Steam's holiday sale, I purchased Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate Edition for a measly $15. That includes Origins, the Awakening expansion, and ALL of the DLC. Wanna know how much the DLC costs alone through the Bioware store? $40+ in BW points.

DLC costs as much now as it did when first released. Can anyone really say that this is fair, and keep a straight face?

Quick ninja response to this point:

Rule of thumb: Things are worth what people will pay for them. Games depreciate because however much certain outlets might want it to happen, nobody in their right mind is paying new prices for old games.

If you go around buying things you feel you're being overcharged for, all you're saying is "please continue to sell stuff at a price I consider unreasonable", because you bought it, didn't you?

[Wulfram]

Chris Priestly wrote...

If we make optional DLC available and you don't want it, don't buy it. If we make DLC and you want it, pay for it. If I go to a burger place, I don't get upset that they charge me for fries. They're optional. Sure, I wish they were free or included with my burger at no extra charge, but I realize it costs the company to make them and if I want them, I should pay for them.

And if I go to a restaurant and they try to charge me for salt and pepper, I'm unlikely to go there again.

Fundamentally, if Bioware aren't interested in providing me what I consider the full game for what I consider an appropriate price then you're going to lose my custom.  Or at least make me wait until the price reflects what I'm willing to pay for an incomplete game.

So rather than getting a pre-order and £30 from me, you'll likely get £15 and only if the reviews are positive.

[Abirn]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Well, Futureboy, I just checked your Registered Entitlements page and you still have Zaeed available to you (don't believe me, check your page here). So I'm not sure exactly what the problem is. Maybe you don't understand how to access it? If so, please send me a PM and I'll explain it.

If we make optional DLC available and you don't want it, don't buy it. If we make DLC and you want it, pay for it. If I go to a burger place, I don't get upset that they charge me for fries. They're optional. Sure, I wish they were free or included with my burger at no extra charge, but I realize it costs the company to make them and if I want them, I should pay for them.

So when are you going to sell us the Gamestop pre-order DLC so the rest of us can have a cool gun and armor?  

[DaJe]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

DLC is linked to your account, not your location. If you're having problems with DLC, try contacting EA support instead of making ignorant rants on a forum that has nothing to do with your problem.

They could have put a lot of the content in the game when it first launched, if you were willing to have the game delayed, and cost more.

I would be willing to wait longer if it means that all the content is seamlessly included in the game and not obviously recognizable as extra content. I would also be willing to pay more as long as it's reasonable. The DLC prices alone are not reasonable. DLC has gotten out of hand with EA and "rants" like this show that not everyone is just accepting it that way.
If anyone is trying to justify EAs DLC economically, one word: Skyrim.

[StarcloudSWG]

Mr. Priestly, the problem is this:

Take your computer with Mass Effect 2 and all the download content. Disconnect it from the internet. Wait three days. Try to play a Mass Effect 2 saved game with the DLC active.

You will get "Cannot authorize DLC."

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

I think I'm the only one who doesn't care about paying for DLC. I've bought every DLC for ME2. I don't mind it. Sure it sucks that you have to pay for it but that's how it is.. It's additional content that you must pay for.. it's nothing "new" or shocking. I'm very happy when DLC comes out and I buy every DLC the morning it comes out.. I don't care about the cost.

Plus in my opinion DLC is a good thing.. it adds to the game and the fact that you have to wait for it keeps you into the game.. if all DLC was added to the game on launch you'd play the game a coupld times and that's it.. Thanks to DLC I may still be playing ME3 at this time next year.

[Il Divo]

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

I think I'm the only one who doesn't care about paying for DLC. I've bought every DLC for ME2. I don't mind it. Sure it sucks that you have to pay for it but that's how it is.. It's additional content that you must pay for.. it's nothing "new" or shocking. I'm very happy when DLC comes out and I buy every DLC the morning it comes out.. I don't care about the cost.

Plus in my opinion DLC is a good thing.. it adds to the game and the fact that you have to wait for it keeps you into the game.. if all DLC was added to the game on launch you'd play the game a coupld times and that's it.. Thanks to DLC I may still be playing ME3 at this time next year.

This. I myself just yesterday finished buying out all the ME2 dlc I was missing before (Overlord, Alternate Appearance Packs, etc). I wish I'd done so sooner. Miranda looks ten times better without the catsuit. Now if only I could get something similar for Samara...

Modifié par Il Divo, 20 janvier 2012 - 02:27 .

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

BounceDK wrote...

Bioware DLC prices is the number 1 ripoff on the entire interweb. Prices never drop like they should.

Your joking right? BioWare's DLC prices are number 1! I was really impressed that most of they're DLCs are 560 msp.. most DLCs are 800. BioWare has only 1 DLC that was 800msp and that was Lair of the Shadow Broker which is clearly understandable.

You think BioWare overcharges for DLC? You clearly don't buy DLC alot because I buy DLC for everything and man I was impressed with BioWares DLC cost. Look at Call of Duty, 1200msp for a couple of multiplayer maps... BioWare, 560msp for a brand new character, mission, weapon, research and abilities. Can't go wrong. Pretty much any game you see will have DLC for 800msp. Even Assassin's Creed a game series I love, has DLC equivalent to BioWares. Difference is theirs is 800msp, BioWares is 560.

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

Il Divo wrote...

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

I think I'm the only one who doesn't care about paying for DLC. I've bought every DLC for ME2. I don't mind it. Sure it sucks that you have to pay for it but that's how it is.. It's additional content that you must pay for.. it's nothing "new" or shocking. I'm very happy when DLC comes out and I buy every DLC the morning it comes out.. I don't care about the cost.

Plus in my opinion DLC is a good thing.. it adds to the game and the fact that you have to wait for it keeps you into the game.. if all DLC was added to the game on launch you'd play the game a coupld times and that's it.. Thanks to DLC I may still be playing ME3 at this time next year.

This. I myself just yesterday finished buying out all the ME2 dlc I was missing before (Overlord, Alternate Appearance Packs, etc). I wish I'd done so sooner. Miranda looks ten times better without the catsuit. Now if only I could get something similar for Samara...

Oh nice! Overlord is actually very cool and fun. And the Alternate Appearance Packs are awesome! They look much better when in battle. While I do like Miranda's catsuit... I always put her armour on when going on a mission.

[AlexXIV]

As long as we get weapon and armor without DLC I am ok. Once they sell the main game with a naked unarmed protagonist and the only way to get any weapon or armor is to buy DLCs I am right up there on the barricades with you. But honestly, I never bought additional armor and weapon sets and I didn't miss them. Also if people would just stop buying them, then Bioware would stop making them, easy as that. Stupid things are produced because stupid people buy them. And honestly, if Bioware get money from stupid people to make better games I'm all for it.

[DiegoProgMetal]

I guess you guys are missing the point here. His complaint is about the fact that "no internet connection, no dlc", he have it, he downloaded it, he installed it, but without connection he can't play it because ME2 cannot check if he is entitled.
Or at least this is what I understood.

[daftPirate]

The PLC wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Well, Futureboy, I just checked your Registered Entitlements page and you still have Zaeed available to you (don't believe me, check your page here). So I'm not sure exactly what the problem is. Maybe you don't understand how to access it? If so, please send me a PM and I'll explain it.

If we make optional DLC available and you don't want it, don't buy it. If we make DLC and you want it, pay for it. If I go to a burger place, I don't get upset that they charge me for fries. They're optional. Sure, I wish they were free or included with my burger at no extra charge, but I realize it costs the company to make them and if I want them, I should pay for them.

About that, I totally want all that extra pre-order DLC for ME2, that you still haven't made available for everyone, AND I WOULD GLADLY PAY. With money!! Real money!

What this guy said.

[StarcloudSWG]

Somehow the discussion entirely missed the point; Mass Effect 2's DLC authorization system 'checks in' with EA's servers every few days to make sure the DLC is still authorized. If there's no internet connection, Mass Effect 2 deauthorizes all DLC on the computer.

In short, you might have paid for, downloaded, installed, and played DLC, but if you move to a location where you can't get the computer connected, now, the DLC becomes unplayable.

THAT is what the original poster is complaining about. Not the presence or absence of DLC on disk.

[FutureBoy81]

DiegoProgMetal wrote...

I guess you guys are missing the point here. His complaint is about the fact that "no internet connection, no dlc", he have it, he downloaded it, he installed it, but without connection he can't play it because ME2 cannot check if he is entitled.
Or at least this is what I understood.

exactly and now that my old xbox has broken, i cant play my old saves with my downloadable content, and even when i had my old xbox it still would not let me play my downloaded content unless i was connected online, which brough me to my point of bioware short changing there customers and not including content such as the "Crash Site" or Zaeed in the final game or make the content availible to you once you've downloaded it without the connection because i dont always have access to the internet with my xbox.

[Il Divo]

FutureBoy81 wrote...

exactly and now that my old xbox has broken, i cant play my old saves with my downloadable content, and even when i had my old xbox it still would not let me play my downloaded content unless i was connected online, which brough me to my point of bioware short changing there customers and not including content such as the "Crash Site" or Zaeed in the final game or make the content availible to you once you've downloaded it without the connection because i dont always have access to the internet with my xbox.

Again, that's not on Bioware. Microsoft is responsible for handling all transactions dealing with Xbox Live. It's their policy regarding dlc.

http://support.xbox....ownload-content

If you can connect to Xbox Live for a brief period, this outlines how you can transfer your license to your current 360, allowing you to play offline.

Modifié par Il Divo, 20 janvier 2012 - 03:27 .

[ziloe]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Well, Futureboy, I just checked your Registered Entitlements page and you still have Zaeed available to you (don't believe me, check your page here). So I'm not sure exactly what the problem is. Maybe you don't understand how to access it? If so, please send me a PM and I'll explain it.

If we make optional DLC available and you don't want it, don't buy it. If we make DLC and you want it, pay for it. If I go to a burger place, I don't get upset that they charge me for fries. They're optional. Sure, I wish they were free or included with my burger at no extra charge, but I realize it costs the company to make them and if I want them, I should pay for them.

Just so we're clear, burger places like Mcdonalds charge outrageous amounts for a burger that only cost them 10 cents to make. They aren't losing any money making the fries free...

[ODST 5723]

ziloe wrote...
Just so we're clear, burger places like Mcdonalds charge outrageous amounts for a burger that only cost them 10 cents to make. They aren't losing any money making the fries free...

The burger itself may cost $0.10 but you're forgetting about the other expenses associated with that transaction.