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[Elecbender]

I'm getting a queasy feeling that the Cobra was renamed the Phaeston.

It sounds crazy but its not far from the truth.

1. The Cobra's statbar fields to the Phaeston's in game bars are very similar.
2. It would be extremely redundant to have two weapons that are very similar to this degree.
3. There is already a heavy weapon in multiplayer called the Cobra.

This is just a theory but its not like it came out of nowhere. Well, there's two weeks remaining so it won't be that long.

[JSLfromBx]

PDesign wrote...

JSLfromBx wrote...
edited to ask: the ammo mod, do they increase ammo per magazine or spare ammo?

per magazine.

 damn, thsi is bad they're completly useless for shotgun, why should I care about magazeine ammo for one shot one kill weapon? The lack of spare ammo on some shotgun is almost a deal breaker :/

this is really disapointing.

[JaegerBane]

Elecbender wrote...

I'm getting a queasy feeling that the Cobra was renamed the Phaeston.

It sounds crazy but its not far from the truth.

1. The Cobra's statbar fields to the Phaeston's in game bars are very similar.
2. It would be extremely redundant to have two weapons that are very similar to this degree.
3. There is already a heavy weapon in multiplayer called the Cobra.

This is just a theory but its not like it came out of nowhere. Well, there's two weeks remaining so it won't be that long.

That makes sense, to be honest. The Phaeston will likely end up being my main AR (I really doubt my Adept could handle the Revenant AND the Viper )

[zeypher]

MUAHAHA cant wait to try on inferno ammo evolved to heavy explosive rounds

[JSLfromBx]

Ok so I just reviewed the detailed stats for all the gun and man, balanced is completly broken, just compare the Revenant Vs the N7-Huricane it's so bad it's not even funny.

the huricane got 30% more damage per shot than the revant!!
but it's doesn't stop there it also have twice the fire rate, nearly twice the accuracy!!! and it weight half as much!!!!

Something is very, VERY wrong here.

Modifié par JSLfromBx, 22 février 2012 - 11:29 .

[zeypher]

but consider the mods. The revenant can be modded with penetrations mods, smgs do not have penetration. Also rev has a buttload of ammo. Another thing is recoil hurricane has twice the recoil of the revenant

Modifié par zeypher, 22 février 2012 - 11:26 .

[JSLfromBx]

Sorry but no, penetration mod are a waste of a mod slot, yourt arget should be floating in the air when you shoot it not sleeping behind cover, and if it's an unliftable protected target, well that why I got adrenaline rush with my own portable thanix canon on my back, gonna love tha geth sniper rifle as or ammo the revenant doesn't have that much more,

the N7-hurricane deal a stagering 140% more dps than the revenant for half the weight!!!! nothing justify that.

edit: just realised we don't have the data for the SMG mod, if you could post it PDesign, that would be great.

Modifié par JSLfromBx, 22 février 2012 - 11:48 .

[Spectre-61]

^two

[Adhin]

@JSLfromBx : 2 things, 1 - it depends on the gun catagory your talking about, Shotgun and Sniper Rifle 'spare ammo' is just that. Spare Ammo, it increases how much you have in reserve, not whats in the gun. Also upping level of the gun increases the 'base' spare ammo. For instance Katana Shotgun has ME2 5 in, 15 extra. Get Katana X (10th version) and you have 25 extra shots. Throw 40% on top of that and your looking at 35 extra shots.

And 2 - Piercing Mods are NOT just for going through 'cover' (or a guardians Shields). It goes through people. Groups. You put that on a shotgun, and put inferno ammo on - and you can spray an entire group, each one will cause that AoE explosion causing some big chain effect of fiiiireeee.

Also makes it a lot easier to deal with said other stuff such as Shield dudes, yeah you can use Pull to yank it away 'then' shoot them. Or use Stasis 'then' shoot them. But I'd rather have a Shredder mod on my shotgun so I can shoot 3 of them at once and blow all their heads off. That will go doubly when I have to deal with a husk swarm.

So yeah, anyway I wouldn't worry about spare ammo. They've all been a bit more balance. Mantis, for instance, has 1 in, 10 extra at lvl 1. Seems like ME2 right? Well throw on the spare ammo mod on a lvl 10 Mantis and its got around I think 27 extra shots? It's absurd - you wont run outa shooties.

Modifié par Adhin, 22 février 2012 - 12:19 .

[zeypher]

Adhin wrote...

@JSLfromBx : 2 things, 1 - it depends on the gun catagory your talking about, Shotgun and Sniper Rifle 'spare ammo' is just that. Spare Ammo, it increases how much you have in reserve, not whats in the gun. Also upping level of the gun increases the 'base' spare ammo. For instance Katana Shotgun has ME2 5 in, 15 extra. Get Katana X (10th version) and you have 25 extra shots. Throw 40% on top of that and your looking at 35 extra shots.

And 2 - Piercing Mods are NOT just for going through 'cover' (or a guardians Shields). It goes through people. Groups. You put that on a shotgun, and put inferno ammo on - and you can spray an entire group, each one will cause that AoE explosion causing some big chain effect of fiiiireeee.

Also makes it a lot easier to deal with said other stuff such as Shield dudes, yeah you can use Pull to yank it away 'then' shoot them. Or use Stasis 'then' shoot them. But I'd rather have a Shredder mod on my shotgun so I can shoot 3 of them at once and blow all their heads off. That will go doubly when I have to deal with a husk swarm.

So yeah, anyway I wouldn't worry about spare ammo. They've all been a bit more balance. Mantis, for instance, has 1 in, 10 extra at lvl 1. Seems like ME2 right? Well throw on the spare ammo mod on a lvl 10 Mantis and its got around I think 27 extra shots? It's absurd - you wont run outa shooties.

I like the way you think, fiery death for everyone

[Elecbender]

JSLfromBx wrote...

Ok so I just reviewed the detailed stats for all the gun and man, balanced is completly broken, just compare the Revenant Vs the N7-Huricane it's so bad it's not even funny.

the huricane got 30% more damage per shot than the revant!!
but it's doesn't stop there it also have twice the fire rate, nearly twice the accuracy!!! and it weight half as much!!!!

Something is very, VERY wrong here.

I don't see the problem.

Its true the Hurricane deals more damage but I think you missed something important:

"ammopershot" : [ "2" ]

Its actual ROF is 600, not 1200.

And it has much worse accuracy than the Revenant.

[Adragalus]

JSLfromBx wrote...

PDesign wrote...

JSLfromBx wrote...
edited to ask: the ammo mod, do they increase ammo per magazine or spare ammo?

per magazine.

 damn, thsi is bad they're completly useless for shotgun, why should I care about magazeine ammo for one shot one kill weapon? The lack of spare ammo on some shotgun is almost a deal breaker :/

this is really disapointing.

Actually, there seem to be 2 different types of ammo mods.

Heavy pistols, ARs, and SMGs seem to have per-magazine cipsize boosters, while shotguns and snipers have increased reserve ammo mods.

[Arppis]

PDesign wrote...

Assault Rifles:

Base Damage:

M55 Argus (DLC) = 96.8
M-8 Avenger = 38,6
Cobra = 29,7
Collector Assault Rifle = 44,3
M-37 Falcon = 325,7
Geth Pulse Rifle = 21,9
M-96 Mattock = 76,1
Chakram Launcher (DLC) = 277,9
M-76 Revenant = 47,6
M-99 Saber = 350,1
N7 Valkyrie (DLC) = 79,9
M-15 Vindicator = 68,6

No wonder Avenger rocks so much more than Mattock, it shoots faster and Mattock really doesn't have much damage to pack up the punch.

[Arppis]

Look at Geth Plasma shotgun... Mmmm...

[zeypher]

do remember geth shotty if not charged the shots have a dmg penalty of 55%. Meaning if you do not charge that shotty ur shot will only do 45% dmg

[JSLfromBx]

I hope that the damage mod actually increase the weapon base damage otherwise they're going to be completly useless given all the other multiplier that already stack additively:
imagine an headshot anaginst a phantom with warp ammo:

75% (adre rush) +90% (base headshot+ammo headshot+combat mastery headshot)+20% (combat mastery general weapon increase)+90% (warp ammo barrier bonus witht he 40% increase from rank 6 combat mastery)
That a total of 275% base damage bonus, an extra 25% on that would be meaningless for the actual total damage inflicted, if the damage mod doesn't increase the weapon base damage then it's gonna be quite useless

[rpgfan321]

Nice. I love the Mattock.

[Frailstrength]

Are there any pictures of the chakram launcher? I'm curious about what it looks like and how it works

[Vapaa]

Don't know if any of you have the Art of ME universe, but there is some concepts of the Geth minigun and a unnamed Reaper heavy weapon (most likely the Black star)