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[PrinceLionheart]

didymos1120 wrote...

PrinceLionheart wrote...


So being in bad movies means he shouldn't get any jobs at all. Bit of a Catch-22 there.

Every film actor ever would be out of a job.

Yep, Catch-22.

[Cainne Chapel]

Indeed, I dont see the problem with Freddie Prinze Jr. So far his voice acting talents seem better than his directing talents for WWE! ha ha!

All seriousness aside, I dont think he did a bad job in the brief part that we heard. and if you're going to harp on bioware for hiring him... may as well harp on them for hiring ANY VA with a known background like Martin Sheen, Steven Blum, Seth Green, Jennifer Hale, Keith David, Lance Henriksen and so on.

[BillsVengenace]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

Indeed, I dont see the problem with Freddie Prinze Jr. So far his voice acting talents seem better than his directing talents for WWE! ha ha!

All seriousness aside, I dont think he did a bad job in the brief part that we heard. and if you're going to harp on bioware for hiring him... may as well harp on them for hiring ANY VA with a known background like Martin Sheen, Steven Blum, Seth Green, Jennifer Hale, Keith David, Lance Henriksen and so on.

All of those are far more talented than Freddie Prinze Jr. 



Even Seth Green.

So being in bad movies means he shouldn't get any jobs at all. 

I'm not talking about the movies, I'm talking about his performances, which were rancid.


There are struggling voice actors out there would I have no doubt would blow Prinze out of the water in terms of performance. 

[JeffZero]

Look, Bills, as someone who's studying for the field of voice acting, your compassion for my fellows is touching. But I don't take issue to the guy voicing a character. In fact, he sounds like he'll be alright at it.

[Yuoaman]

Calm your ******, Bills, we've only heard snippets of Freddie's performance - so at least wait until release before you kick your complaints into high gear.

[Homebound]

OMG i think i saw james' pet cat in the trailer! this man is going places, i wouldnt be surprised if he took over shepard's place. looks like one of his power is carnage, that shotgun skill in mass1. is carnage still weaponspecific? or can james use it when he whips out his rifle?

[implodinggoat]

After watching the Vid Vega's character still seems kind of generic; but I'm willing to give him a shot.

The only BIG complaint I have isn't with Vega its with Shepard...

Once again in this video we see one of Shepard's subordinates being borderline insubordinate towards his commanding officer and Shepard is just sitting there taking it yet again. That wimpy BS pissed me off in ME2 and I don't want to see it again in ME3. Shepard spent all of ME2 taking crap off of people, The Illusive Man (repeatedly), Jack (repeatedly), Miranda, Ashley/Kaiden, Liara, the Council, etc, etc.

In ME3 I want the old Assertive Shepard from ME1 back, the Shepard that told the council to go screw themselves and stole the Normandy when the powers that be got in his way. No more of this passive wimp routine, if someone gives my Shepard crap I better damned well be able to lay down the law.

[JeffZero]

That's the thing about the 'boxing sessions' storytelling device, goat. In my experience little sparring sessions like that are supposed to relieve tension and subordinates in militaristic settings are often expected to truly let loose and unwind during the events.

[Someone With Mass]

JeffZero wrote...

That's the thing about the 'boxing sessions' storytelling device, goat. In my experience little sparring sessions like that are supposed to relieve tension and subordinates in militaristic settings are often expected to truly let loose and unwind during the events.

It can also let you test their reach and flexibility. 

[TheCreeper]

I got to say this is the first time I've ever seen Shepard called a passive wimp.

[JeffZero]

Someone With Mass wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

That's the thing about the 'boxing sessions' storytelling device, goat. In my experience little sparring sessions like that are supposed to relieve tension and subordinates in militaristic settings are often expected to truly let loose and unwind during the events.

It can also let you test their reach and flexibility. 

Aha. No doubt!

[Yuoaman]

implodinggoat wrote...

After watching the Vid Vega's character still seems kind of generic; but I'm willing to give him a shot.

The only BIG complaint I have isn't with Vega its with Shepard...

Once again in this video we see one of Shepard's subordinates being borderline insubordinate towards his commanding officer and Shepard is just sitting there taking it yet again. That wimpy BS pissed me off in ME2 and I don't want to see it again in ME3. Shepard spent all of ME2 taking crap off of people, The Illusive Man (repeatedly), Jack (repeatedly), Miranda, Ashley/Kaiden, Liara, the Council, etc, etc.

In ME3 I want the old Assertive Shepard from ME1 back, the Shepard that told the council to go screw themselves and stole the Normandy when the powers that be got in his way. No more of this passive wimp routine, if someone gives my Shepard crap I better damned well be able to lay down the law.

That's what sparring in these kind of settings are for, though, relieving tension by either just pummeling the other person or getting stuff off your chest during.

[implodinggoat]

JeffZero wrote...

That's the thing about the 'boxing sessions' storytelling device, goat. In my experience little sparring sessions like that are supposed to relieve tension and subordinates in militaristic settings are often expected to truly let loose and unwind during the events.

That's my problem with it.   If you're the same rank letting off some tension like that is fine; but Shepard is the Commanding Officer.  Getting into that sort of situation with your subordinates shows a weakness of command that no commanding officer worth their salt would allow.

My grandfather was a full Colonel who commanded a tank battalion and he always liked to be friendly and relatable with his men;  but he would never tolerate them questioning his leadership for a second.   If you want to kid around a little bit with your commanding officer that's fine; but if you ever question them on anything you better do it in private, show respect and start the sentence along the lines "with all due respect sir".   If you don't they have to lay down the law,  that's just how the military works.

Modifié par implodinggoat, 21 janvier 2012 - 04:57 .

[JeffZero]

implodinggoat wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

That's the thing about the 'boxing sessions' storytelling device, goat. In my experience little sparring sessions like that are supposed to relieve tension and subordinates in militaristic settings are often expected to truly let loose and unwind during the events.

That's my problem with it.   If you're the same rank letting of tension like that is fine; but Shepard is the Commanding Officer.  Getting into that sort of situation with your subordinates shows a weakness of command that no commanding officer worth their salt would allow.

My grandfather was a full Colonel who commanded a tank battalion and he always liked to be friendly and relatable with his men;  but he would never tolerate them questioning his leadership for a second.   If you want to kid around a little bit with your commanding officer that's fine; but if you ever question them on anything you better do it in private, show respect and start the sentence along the lines "with all due respect sir".   If you don't they have to lay down the law,  that's just how the military works.

Well, fair enough, then. Admittedly the vast majority of my experience in these matters is through entertainment's spin on the issue. In which case I can think of several instances where something like this occurs, including Battlestar Galactica, which I mention specifically since it's another science fiction production. It's entirely possible in my mind that you're 100% correct but the writers are going off of the entertainment route instead of the truth.

[Thargorichiban]

I do like the fact he was already really into the series and has played the games. It's good when voice actors are really interested in their work. That's one of the things that has bothered me about Jennifer Hale in a few of her interviews when she didn't sound much bothered into even trying to play through the game.

[Yuoaman]

implodinggoat wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

That's the thing about the 'boxing sessions' storytelling device, goat. In my experience little sparring sessions like that are supposed to relieve tension and subordinates in militaristic settings are often expected to truly let loose and unwind during the events.

That's my problem with it.   If you're the same rank letting off some tension like that is fine; but Shepard is the Commanding Officer.  Getting into that sort of situation with your subordinates shows a weakness of command that no commanding officer worth their salt would allow.

My grandfather was a full Colonel who commanded a tank battalion and he always liked to be friendly and relatable with his men;  but he would never tolerate them questioning his leadership for a second.   If you want to kid around a little bit with your commanding officer that's fine; but if you ever question them on anything you better do it in private, show respect and start the sentence along the lines "with all due respect sir".   If you don't they have to lay down the law,  that's just how the military works.

We may have missed a "With all due respect"/"Speak freely" exchange at the start of the bout - and they kind of are in private... unless you count the robot dog, I guess.

[implodinggoat]

TheCreeper wrote...

I got to say this is the first time I've ever seen Shepard called a passive wimp.

In ME2 he/she most certainly is.

Miranda gives him **** and he just takes it.
Liara blows him off and he just takes it.
The council blows him off and he just takes it.
Ashley/Kaiden call him a traitor to his face and he just takes it.
Jack gives him **** over and over and he just takes it over and over.
The Illusive man uses him as a puppet for the whole game and he just takes it for the whole damned game.

This is not the sort of action I expect from the biggest badass in the galaxy.

[Yuoaman]

implodinggoat wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

I got to say this is the first time I've ever seen Shepard called a passive wimp.

In ME2 he/she most certainly is.

Miranda gives him **** and he just takes it.
Liara blows him off and he just takes it.
The council blows him off and he just takes it.
Ashley/Kaiden call him a traitor to his face and he just takes it.
Jack gives him **** over and over and he just takes it over and over.
The Illusive man uses him as a puppet for the whole game and he just takes it for the whole damned game.

This is not the sort of action I expect from the biggest badass in the galaxy.

Not losing your **** over is the sign of a real badass - Shepard just nods at this stuff calmly and then saves the ****ing galaxy like a damn pro.

[Thargorichiban]

Sofia Lamb wrote...

Thargorichiban wrote...

I do like the fact he was already really into the series and has played the games. It's good when voice actors are really interested in their work. That's one of the things that has bothered me about Jennifer Hale in a few of her interviews when she didn't sound much bothered into even trying to play through the game.

I can guarantee you that the majority of the cast has never played a videogame, let alone Mass Effect.

Oh trust me, I know that. It makes it even more refreshing when somebody bucks that trend.

[implodinggoat]

Yuoaman wrote...

Not losing your **** over is the sign of a real badass - Shepard just nods at this stuff calmly and then saves the ****ing galaxy like a damn pro.

You don't have to lose your **** in order to stand up for yourself.  As Teddy Roosevelt said you should "Speak softly and carry a big stick".   You can be totally calm and still address a situation or you can sit there like a meek little kitten and not say a word while Ashley calls you a traitor or when Jack threatens to kill your second in command.

In Mass Effect 1 he plays by his own rules and he saves the galaxy.  In Mass Effect 2 he just does what the Illusive Man tells him and he doesn't save the galaxy.

Modifié par implodinggoat, 21 janvier 2012 - 05:19 .

[TheCreeper]

S/he did what the Illusive Man did because he was the only one doing anything to fight the Reapers Collectors/Reaper and had the resources to help Shepard fight them, And even then a Paragon shepard is subverting Cerberus a lot during the game.

Modifié par TheCreeper, 21 janvier 2012 - 05:18 .

[SlurpinTaxt]

Wow EA even bought the license for Ronnie from the jersey shore. . . Bioware you must be trollin'

[Yuoaman]

implodinggoat wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Not losing your **** over is the sign of a real badass - Shepard just nods at this stuff calmly and then saves the ****ing galaxy like a damn pro.

You don't have to lose your **** in order to stand up for yourself.  As Teddy Roosevelt said you should "Speak softly and carry a big stick".   You can be totally calm and still address a situation or you can sit there like a meek little kitten and not say a word while Ashley calls you a traitor or when Jack threatens to kill your second in command.

In Mass Effect 1 he plays by his own rules and he saves the galaxy.  In Mass Effect 2 he just does what the Illusive Man tells him and he doesn't save the galaxy.

Let's just agree to disagree and get back on topic - this isn't the place to discuss this.

So that Vega and his tight shirts, right?

[implodinggoat]

TheCreeper wrote...

S/he did what the Illusive Man did because he was the only one doing anything to fight the Reapers Collectors/Reaper and had the resources to help Shepard fight them, And even then a Paragon shepard is subverting Cerberus a lot during the game.

You know what would have been a really good way to subvert Cerberus?  Finding out where the Illusive Man was, shooting him in the head and then just taking his resources for yourself.