What's With These Idiots?---Hipsters and such...
#1
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 02:01
#2
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 02:03
#3
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 02:12
#4
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 02:34
#5
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 02:38
#6
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 02:44
Volus Warlord wrote...
"hipsters?"
This is from Urban Dictionary
Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and
30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive
politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity,
intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters
can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission
District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York,
Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is
really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct
fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes
of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and
thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school
sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and
women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of
messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often
associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are
usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer.
The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in
Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the
hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic
tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts
degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain
creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend
to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth
that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust
funds.
Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to
dating preferences and traditional "rules" of physical attraction. It
is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream
advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals
of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced
hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they
date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as
attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who
instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny.
Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair,
overly tanned skin, and "Britney Spears tube-tops" are not seen as
attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of
female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence
and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded,
and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment
are typically found within the hipster subculture.
Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own
subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are
pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals.
For
example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e.
"distressed"), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap,
American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally
paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such
clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer.
The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture
are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out
years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as
many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only
because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of
new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached
mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.
Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social
networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching
sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural "norms"
have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is
often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a
whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity
and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural
ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently
comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the
more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal
threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment
often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and
are envious of those who can.
#7
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 03:12
#8
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 03:17
Laser Beam wrote...
An flame-baiting topic tittle, I know, but seriously anyone else get tired the hipsters that seem to be everywhere internet hating anything that's acclaimed. I know people have opinions but this is more then that. It's pretty obvious they are just trying to seem better then everyone. Really annoying. Discuss?
It's more the "what I like is better than what you like" and their general arrogance that annoys me. Hating something because it's popular is nothing new, so it doesn't bother me as much (god only knows how far back accusing bands of selling out goes back).
EDIT: As do their politics. I can't stand people who are studying art history at an expensive private school with a $2000 Mac and a $1000/month from their parents, that talk about Wall Street fat cats and how they've ruined the economy so they can't get a job.
Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 21 janvier 2012 - 03:21 .
#9
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 03:27
That need to feel some sense of superiority over your fellow man isn't limited to them either. For instance, anyone who joined the internet after 1994 is a blight. You, sir, are a blight. And you.
But that's okay, because I'm a blight to anyone who's been around since the era of the BBS.
#10
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 04:17
Pacifien wrote...
I'm pretty sure that the culture itself always exists, and that "hipster" is merely the current term used to describe it.
That need to feel some sense of superiority over your fellow man isn't limited to them either. For instance, anyone who joined the internet after 1994 is a blight. You, sir, are a blight. And you.
But that's okay, because I'm a blight to anyone who's been around since the era of the BBS.
What, why are people who joined the internet after 1994 a blight?
How different was the internet during 1994 and earlier?
#11
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 04:41
Nameless one7 wrote...
How different was the internet during 1994 and earlier?
No pictures or images, it was all text based.
I remember reading newsgroups on Unix back in my college dorm... We didn't visit sites so much as trade posts in discussion groups. (unless we wanted files, then we used FTP)
Then one day someone told me about something called "Mosaic", and how you could use it to visit "web pages". I never thought it would catch on, it seemed needlessly complicated at the time.
Regarding Hipsters: having lived in NYC a few years, I've definitely experienced the thrill of "discovering" bars / restaurants before others, and then being annoyed when the masses show up later to crowd you out of those favorite places. But that kind of mindset got old for me fast.
#12
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 04:43
Once upon a time, the ease (lack thereof) with which someone could gain access to the internet was considered a stupidity filter for online discussion.Nameless one7 wrote...
What, why are people who joined the internet after 1994 a blight?
How different was the internet during 1994 and earlier?
And I'm a year off. With AOL, every day is September.
#13
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 04:45
The "world wide web" is such a knock off of Gopher. It's never going to catch on.Wentletrap wrote...
Then one day someone told me about something called "Mosaic", and how you could use it to visit "web pages". I never thought it would catch on, it seemed needlessly complicated at the time.
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Guest_Celrath_*
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 05:01
Guest_Celrath_*
Pacifien wrote...
Once upon a time, the ease (lack thereof) with which someone could gain access to the internet was considered a stupidity filter for online discussion.Nameless one7 wrote...
What, why are people who joined the internet after 1994 a blight?
How different was the internet during 1994 and earlier?
And I'm a year off. With AOL, every day is September.
It's not my fault, I was only nine at the time
Modifié par Celrath, 21 janvier 2012 - 05:18 .
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Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 06:39
#16
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 07:02
Nameless one7 wrote...
The greatest concentrations of hipsters
can be found living in the Williamsburg,
Unfortunately very very true.
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Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 07:08
#18
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 07:23
It is a myth
that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust
funds.
Not a myth.
I used to rent an an apartment in an area dominated by hipsters, and they made up about half of my bldg. While I wouldn't go so far as to say that most of them did not work, a good percentage didn't and had rent paid for by their parents.
That stereotype has some basis in truth. It may not apply to all hipsters but it certainly applies to some.
#19
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 07:29
bandfred wrote...
Indeed.Ringo12 wrote...
Nameless one7 wrote...
The greatest concentrations of hipsters
can be found living in the Williamsburg,
Unfortunately very very true.
*snip*
Look at all those damn hipsters.
Yes damn them all to hell.
#20
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 07:30
That's hardly enough to be considered a 'hipster'.Laser Beam wrote...
An flame-baiting topic tittle, I know, but seriously anyone else get tired the hipsters that seem to be everywhere internet hating anything that's acclaimed.
You at least need to have some silly 'ironic' clothes, listen to obscure music that nobody knows and claim to be a buddhist despite being a middle class caucasion.
#21
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 09:29
GodWood wrote...
That's hardly enough to be considered a 'hipster'.Laser Beam wrote...
An flame-baiting topic tittle, I know, but seriously anyone else get tired the hipsters that seem to be everywhere internet hating anything that's acclaimed.
You at least need to have some silly 'ironic' clothes, listen to obscure music that nobody knows and claim to be a buddhist despite being a middle class caucasion.
That's a little silly, since when does someone being buddhist and caucasian equal hipster? I know a few caucasian buddhists who choose to be buddhist becuase they find it peaceful. And when does taste in music matter?
I would label someone a hipster if they choose to be different just for the point of being different, if they actually like that type of stuff I dont see how they're a hipster, a hipster would mock someone who follows what others do. So really clothing, religion, music ect, all can be somewhat hipster but the person could still not be a hipster (if that makes any sense)
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Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 09:46
#23
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 09:48
Then it become mainstream.
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Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 10:00
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Mesina2 wrote...
I used be a hipster.
Then it become mainstream.
So weird... I was thinking this exact thing today! Nothing brought it on either! I was thinking about how hipsters seem to becoming more popular..what does it mean to be an actual hipster then?
#25
Posté 21 janvier 2012 - 10:09
Although seeing as the OP used the word follower to describe someone for wearing a peice of clothing I assume he's actually a hipster just doesn't really know it.




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