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#51
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Queen can't be indoctrinated for one big reason: indoctrination ruins the subject. Zombie Queen bordering on husk isn't going to make more Rachni.

Just saying.

As for the other thing, your killing of the Rachni just presents a bio-tech problem for the reapers who can fuse left-right chiralry species like Turian and Krogan, or adds human heads to Batarian Shoulders.

Does anyone here really think the Reapers aren't going to be able to engineer a solution to that problem?

Or that they didn't keep genetic information on file? Your choice matters, its just that the outcome is only affecting what the Reapers have to do to meet their goal, not the eventual outcome.


If I had to guess the collector's proberly gotten some Rachni DNA before the wars started

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DiebytheSword wrote...

Oh, and there are unforseen consequences in the leak for those choices, I'm not spoiling but Rachni or Reaper Queen is not the only outcome of those choices.

Other choices are involved too.

Reaper queen? Did I just get another spoiler thrown on me or did you miss-type? I need to go dark. 

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I hope we get to seesome Rachin ship designs.

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DiebytheSword wrote...

Queen can't be indoctrinated for one big reason: indoctrination ruins the subject. Zombie Queen bordering on husk isn't going to make more Rachni.

Just saying.

As for the other thing, your killing of the Rachni just presents a bio-tech problem for the reapers who can fuse left-right chiralry species like Turian and Krogan, or adds human heads to Batarian Shoulders.

Does anyone here really think the Reapers aren't going to be able to engineer a solution to that problem?

Or that they didn't keep genetic information on file? Your choice matters, its just that the outcome is only affecting what the Reapers have to do to meet their goal, not the eventual outcome.


If you end up fighting real rachni for one choice and fake rachni, which is what it seems you're saying for the other, your choice didn't matter.  Both choices lead to the same outcome, you fighting Rachni.

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Doctalen wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Oh, and there are unforseen consequences in the leak for those choices, I'm not spoiling but Rachni or Reaper Queen is not the only outcome of those choices.

Other choices are involved too.

Reaper queen? Did I just get another spoiler thrown on me or did you miss-type? I need to go dark. 


No, it was the same spoiler carelessly tossed out earlier, I should say Reaper supplied "queen".

I'll leave it at that.

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DiebytheSword wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Oh, and there are unforseen consequences in the leak for those choices, I'm not spoiling but Rachni or Reaper Queen is not the only outcome of those choices.

Other choices are involved too.

Reaper queen? Did I just get another spoiler thrown on me or did you miss-type? I need to go dark. 


No, it was the same spoiler carelessly tossed out earlier, I should say Reaper supplied "queen".

I'll leave it at that.

Ah ok. Ya, I saw that. I thought you meant a queen of the reapers. I was picturing a giant Bee colored reaper xD 

Modifié par Doctalen, 21 janvier 2012 - 04:26 .


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Aaleel wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Queen can't be indoctrinated for one big reason: indoctrination ruins the subject. Zombie Queen bordering on husk isn't going to make more Rachni.

Just saying.

As for the other thing, your killing of the Rachni just presents a bio-tech problem for the reapers who can fuse left-right chiralry species like Turian and Krogan, or adds human heads to Batarian Shoulders.

Does anyone here really think the Reapers aren't going to be able to engineer a solution to that problem?

Or that they didn't keep genetic information on file? Your choice matters, its just that the outcome is only affecting what the Reapers have to do to meet their goal, not the eventual outcome.


If you end up fighting real rachni for one choice and fake rachni, which is what it seems you're saying for the other, your choice didn't matter.  Both choices lead to the same outcome, you fighting Rachni.


And I'm telling you that if you look at it that way, you obviously don't know about the unforseen consequences of those actions.  There is more to it than that, have more faith in Bioware and less in the trolls.

Also remember that  the leak could be wrong by now.

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DiebytheSword wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Queen can't be indoctrinated for one big reason: indoctrination ruins the subject. Zombie Queen bordering on husk isn't going to make more Rachni.

Just saying.

As for the other thing, your killing of the Rachni just presents a bio-tech problem for the reapers who can fuse left-right chiralry species like Turian and Krogan, or adds human heads to Batarian Shoulders.

Does anyone here really think the Reapers aren't going to be able to engineer a solution to that problem?

Or that they didn't keep genetic information on file? Your choice matters, its just that the outcome is only affecting what the Reapers have to do to meet their goal, not the eventual outcome.


If you end up fighting real rachni for one choice and fake rachni, which is what it seems you're saying for the other, your choice didn't matter.  Both choices lead to the same outcome, you fighting Rachni.


And I'm telling you that if you look at it that way, you obviously don't know about the unforseen consequences of those actions.  There is more to it than that, have more faith in Bioware and less in the trolls.

Also remember that  the leak could be wrong by now.


Based on how well they've handled imported decisions in the past?

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DiebytheSword wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Oh, and there are unforseen consequences in the leak for those choices, I'm not spoiling but Rachni or Reaper Queen is not the only outcome of those choices.

Other choices are involved too.

Reaper queen? Did I just get another spoiler thrown on me or did you miss-type? I need to go dark. 


No, it was the same spoiler carelessly tossed out earlier, I should say Reaper supplied "queen".

I'll leave it at that.

honestly ill paragon my way for the rachni queen to join me all I have do is explain how being my enemy=Death  if the queen says shes working with the reapers then ill just kill her and Nuke her nest  I mean Stuff tends to Die and Explode around Sheppard

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I think the Rachni will be one of the most disappointing parts of this game. They should have been a point of major player influence, and judging by the leak they are not.

Should be fun to fight though!

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moneycashgeorge wrote...

I think the Rachni will be one of the most disappointing parts of this game. They should have been a point of major player influence, and judging by the leak they are not.

Should be fun to fight though!

I really dont want to fight them if theres a way not to I wont cause I really want to keep the Genocide down to one race at a time Having to destroy every single reaper is bad enough I dont want to kill every rachni in the galaxy I hope at least I can get them to remain neutral if they wont help 

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I may need to avoid the forum from now on. I may as well go find and read the leaked script at this point.

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Aaleel wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...

Queen can't be indoctrinated for one big reason: indoctrination ruins the subject. Zombie Queen bordering on husk isn't going to make more Rachni.

Just saying.

As for the other thing, your killing of the Rachni just presents a bio-tech problem for the reapers who can fuse left-right chiralry species like Turian and Krogan, or adds human heads to Batarian Shoulders.

Does anyone here really think the Reapers aren't going to be able to engineer a solution to that problem?

Or that they didn't keep genetic information on file? Your choice matters, its just that the outcome is only affecting what the Reapers have to do to meet their goal, not the eventual outcome.


If you end up fighting real rachni for one choice and fake rachni, which is what it seems you're saying for the other, your choice didn't matter.  Both choices lead to the same outcome, you fighting Rachni.


And I'm telling you that if you look at it that way, you obviously don't know about the unforseen consequences of those actions.  There is more to it than that, have more faith in Bioware and less in the trolls.

Also remember that  the leak could be wrong by now.


Based on how well they've handled imported decisions in the past?


No, based on the fact that I read the leak, all of it, carefully and I'm telling you that it is not how it is presented by the trolls.

Or do you feel you'll be getting different emails post battle from the different queens and thats it?

You know what, forget I said anything: keep on hating, I'm just correcting a piece of bad information that was tossed out.

Half the BSN is just looking for somethign to complete their confirmation bias anyway.

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DiebytheSword wrote...


No, based on the fact that I read the leak, all of it, carefully and I'm telling you that it is not how it is presented by the trolls.

Or do you feel you'll be getting different emails post battle from the different queens and thats it?

You know what, forget I said anything: keep on hating, I'm just correcting a piece of bad information that was tossed out.

Half the BSN is just looking for somethign to complete their confirmation bias anyway.


How is it hating.  You said have faith in Bioware, and asked based on what, when their track record on recognizing carried over decisions is not great.

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moneycashgeorge wrote...

I think the Rachni will be one of the most disappointing parts of this game. They should have been a point of major player influence, and judging by the leak they are not.

Should be fun to fight though!


I seriously wish people would stop spreading half-way true rumors around.  I was not dissapointed.  I was satisified with the direction they were headed in as of the leak, some people aren't happy around here with ME 1&2 period.

But again, I can't share what I read, and I'm sure people don't want to hear it either.  Don't trust the negative hype, because it has not all been right, people aren't looking at things in context (even within the paltry leak info) and using it to confirm fears when they're wrong to start with.

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Aaleel wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...


No, based on the fact that I read the leak, all of it, carefully and I'm telling you that it is not how it is presented by the trolls.

Or do you feel you'll be getting different emails post battle from the different queens and thats it?

You know what, forget I said anything: keep on hating, I'm just correcting a piece of bad information that was tossed out.

Half the BSN is just looking for somethign to complete their confirmation bias anyway.


How is it hating.  You said have faith in Bioware, and asked based on what, when their track record on recognizing carried over decisions is not great.


Do or say what you want, my word obviously carries as much weight as theirs if not less.

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Ughhh... now I feel like crap. Didn't mean to derail the thread. There have been other threads on Rachni-Reaper stuff, I thought the info was more widely known. I'll go back and get rid of the spoiler, if those who quoted me will do the same.

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DiebytheSword wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

DiebytheSword wrote...


No, based on the fact that I read the leak, all of it, carefully and I'm telling you that it is not how it is presented by the trolls.

Or do you feel you'll be getting different emails post battle from the different queens and thats it?

You know what, forget I said anything: keep on hating, I'm just correcting a piece of bad information that was tossed out.

Half the BSN is just looking for somethign to complete their confirmation bias anyway.


How is it hating.  You said have faith in Bioware, and asked based on what, when their track record on recognizing carried over decisions is not great.


Do or say what you want, my word obviously carries as much weight as theirs if not less.

Theres no point including the Queen then Kill her she works for reapers dont kill her work for reapers if they do that then honestly Ill just return it to the store okay if i have to see Conrad Verner in every mass effect game but a major action you took in ME1 has no effect over the story then I wont even finish the game

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So am I in the minority that let the Rachni Queen live?

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Is it so far-fetched to think that they found another rachni queen egg in another rachni ship somewhere?
Even if you did the Renegade option, there will be rachni. I say, bring 'em on.

Modifié par Flashflame58, 21 janvier 2012 - 04:46 .


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Mass Effect Player wrote...

So am I in the minority that let the Rachni Queen live?


I let her live.

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Aaleel wrote...

Mass Effect Player wrote...

So am I in the minority that let the Rachni Queen live?


I let her live.

Me too.

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I'm kinda surprised so many people killed the queen.

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ratzerman wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Mass Effect Player wrote...

So am I in the minority that let the Rachni Queen live?


I let her live.

Me too.


Just asking because their first post were like, bugs are for smashing or shes indoctrinated!!! She dies. Even if she does get influenced by the Reapers my morale compass when it comes to genocide is pretty low.

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I don't think the Queen is indoctrinated. The lighting's pretty dark which would bring out the light in her glowy eyes. And how long was she at the labs after she was hatched? She could still be maturing. I think that salarian ship that found the other eggs are what gets huskified, but this is just me speculating.

Modifié par fatalfeline, 21 janvier 2012 - 04:53 .