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#101
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im glad shes on my side ) I hope, she promised to help in me1 and in me 2 she thanks you. But no one will find out till march 6th.

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Flashflame58 wrote...

Sometimes a little genocide is necessary.


I don't know. I don't want to get into philosophy. I used to think the same way a long time ago. But what I can agree with is sometimes massive loss of life can be necessary. For example people thought Stalin was brutal for sending millions of troops to the Eastern front. But is was necessary to drive off the German's back to Berlin and that was the Soviet Unions only option. And on another note I think Western Society has made Stalin to villainy

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Aaleel wrote...

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Yea but two entire races in one game is a bit much.

Which other race are you talking about? The krogan? That's not genocide.


I think he means the reapers lol.

Killing the reapers isn't genocide, either.

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Flashflame58 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

ParagonForLife wrote...

Yea but two entire races in one game is a bit much.

Which other race are you talking about? The krogan? That's not genocide.


I think he means the reapers lol.

Killing the reapers isn't genocide, either.


It truly is debatable what is and isn't genocide. And I agree that isn't genocide but, it could be seen as that way but, that is necessary I'm sure I speak for everyone that we need to stop and get rid of the Reapers.

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Flashflame58 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

ParagonForLife wrote...

Yea but two entire races in one game is a bit much.

Which other race are you talking about? The krogan? That's not genocide.


I think he means the reapers lol.

Killing the reapers isn't genocide, either.


I know. I'm just saying I think that was the second race he's talking about.

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I got to say. I kept the Queen alive. I don't regret it. and i have a feeling that Bioware isn't going to make me regret that decision. Now other ones I have a feeling they will and I will live with that.

Also. Looking at that picture. That is not an indoctrinated Rachni. It's not a machine look. It looks like her origional look but with a great improvement to texture. Chitinous plating along some of her body parts and beak. Carapacing on parts of her body and legs. Things found in real life bugs but on a much bigger scale.

And all I am going to say is... Too much about that leaked script is source from a source type crap... Not the origional leaked script. and on top of that many get their information from a double translated bullet point list. We can't be sure what was happening. But Knowing Bioware. don't think that just because you fight rachni that your choice didn't matter. Or that just because you save a rachni queen that the rachni you face are necessarily from that Queen. Or that just because her species was once extinct that all Rachni are allied with her or under her control...

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Mass Effect Player wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

ParagonForLife wrote...

Yea but two entire races in one game is a bit much.

Which other race are you talking about? The krogan? That's not genocide.


I think he means the reapers lol.

Killing the reapers isn't genocide, either.


It truly is debatable what is and isn't genocide. And I agree that isn't genocide but, it could be seen as that wat but, that is necessary I'm sure I speak for everyone that we need to stop and get rid of the Reapers.

What the reapers are doing would be considered genocide in my opinion. We're just defending ourselves.

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Reptillius wrote...

I got to say. I kept the Queen alive. I don't regret it. and i have a feeling that Bioware isn't going to make me regret that decision. Now other ones I have a feeling they will and I will live with that.

Also. Looking at that picture. That is not an indoctrinated Rachni. It's not a machine look. It looks like her origional look but with a great improvement to texture. Chitinous plating along some of her body parts and beak. Carapacing on parts of her body and legs. Things found in real life bugs but on a much bigger scale.

And all I am going to say is... Too much about that leaked script is source from a source type crap... Not the origional leaked script. and on top of that many get their information from a double translated bullet point list. We can't be sure what was happening. But Knowing Bioware. don't think that just because you fight rachni that your choice didn't matter. Or that just because you save a rachni queen that the rachni you face are necessarily from that Queen. Or that just because her species was once extinct that all Rachni are allied with her or under her control...


This seems likely. The Rachni Queen that we saw was pretty young as well. It is feasible in the past few years she has matured somewhat and her appearance has changed.

We could be facing a situation where there is a faction of indoctrinated Rachni and the Queen's faction of free Rachni. They could possibly cancel each other out or maybe there could be missions to "rescue" the indocrtrinated faction. Perhaps the Queen's song could straighten out their sour one.

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Icinix wrote...

There is also the side misison where you wipe out the Rachni on the outer planets.

I'd love to see that come into play in ME3.


.........Wait what?!

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What the reapers are doing would be considered genocide in my opinion. We're just defending ourselves.


In lay mans terms. Genocide is the "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. Though what constitutes enough of a part to qualify as genocide has been subject to much debate by legal scholars.

Thank you Wikipedia

Thats were I agree.

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joe4201 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

There is also the side misison where you wipe out the Rachni on the outer planets.

I'd love to see that come into play in ME3.


.........Wait what?!


Side missions.

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Mass Effect Player wrote...

Flashflame58 wrote...

What the reapers are doing would be considered genocide in my opinion. We're just defending ourselves.


In lay mans terms. Genocide is the "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. Though what constitutes enough of a part to qualify as genocide has been subject to much debate by legal scholars.

Thank you Wikipedia

Thats were I agree.

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what the reapers are doing is more along the lines of Xenocide Xeno meaning (alien)

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ParagonForLife wrote...

what the reapers are doing is more along the lines of Xenocide Xeno meaning (alien)


AWWW. You got me with the technicality. Well played Sir.

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Mass Effect Player wrote...

ParagonForLife wrote...

what the reapers are doing is more along the lines of Xenocide Xeno meaning (alien)


AWWW. You got me with the technicality. Well played Sir.

Indeed. Image IPB

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joe4201 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

There is also the side misison where you wipe out the Rachni on the outer planets.

I'd love to see that come into play in ME3.


.........Wait what?!


There were a couple of missions where you took out 'soured' rachni. One was you holding a small base with a few alliance soldiers against a few waves of Rachni.

Was really good - kind of a hidden side quest, I think I missed it my first few playthroughs.

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dis b*tch better not F#%k me in me3 after i let her **** go lol

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Grunt420 wrote...

dis b*tch better not F#%k me in me3 after i let her **** go lol

lol grunt you and wrex can just eat her if she tries to screw us over

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JigPig wrote...

Looks like it's been husk-ified. Watch the blue light emanate from it's mouth in the trailer.

Really? I thought BioWare added more textures to the Rachni Queen.

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tis not the one you saved anyway. introduce her to a world of pain.

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Icinix wrote...

There were a couple of missions where you took out 'soured' rachni. One was you holding a small base with a few alliance soldiers against a few waves of Rachni.

Was really good - kind of a hidden side quest, I think I missed it my first few playthroughs.


Well not really hidden. After every one of the main planets, one or two additional star systems popped up on the galaxy map. The one with the Rachni sub quests appeared after Noveria (and one with Thorian creepers after Feros). The problem was that ME1 had no way to tell the player what systems and planets he had already visited, so if you didn't pay attention, you could miss those additional systems easily.

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It's funny how most people assume she is evil based on one pic.

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I really like how people condemn an entire race to death just like the other races, I believe that in the queens own way the rachni were manipulated by Soveriegn into doing its bidding which soured the rachni's milk if you will. I believe with the exception of the reapers that every race deserves a second chance even if its the rachni.

So if the rachni in ME 3 end up going the wrong way I will fix the problem permeantly but until then I will give them a second chance and if they stay true to their promise and the turians etc try to turn on the rachni they will live to regret it same goes with other races.

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

It's funny how most people assume she is evil based on one pic.

Yeah what makes it even weirder is she doesn't look evil at all in that pic IMO.

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Icinix wrote...

joe4201 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

There is also the side misison where you wipe out the Rachni on the outer planets.

I'd love to see that come into play in ME3.


.........Wait what?!


There were a couple of missions where you took out 'soured' rachni. One was you holding a small base with a few alliance soldiers against a few waves of Rachni.

Was really good - kind of a hidden side quest, I think I missed it my first few playthroughs.


Weren't they related to Cerberus making its own rachni so the rachni husks we may face could be Cerberus