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#28051
Lotion Soronarr

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Finished watching Akama Ga Kill.... muh. Don't see the hubub. Yeah, it's brutal and is killing characters left and right, but it's kinda of a mess.

 

And no, I don't find Esdeath interesting


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#28052
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Damnit Lotion. Stop thinking for yourself and just fanboi over her like everyone else! (Sept me, cause I haven't seen it)

#28053
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I haven't either. I can certainly see her "appeal" though.



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Ghost Lightning

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Finished watching Akama Ga Kill.... muh. Don't see the hubub. Yeah, it's brutal and is killing characters left and right, but it's kinda of a mess.

 

And no, I don't find Esdeath interesting

 

Watching, or reading? The manga is significantly better. And plus, Kurome is best girl, not Esdeath. 

 

@Liam: Her ****** are smaller in the manga.



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Same year I was born :o

My birth year Gundam show was Victory Gundam and I like that show too.

 

But yeah another reason you will like War in the Pocket.

 

Besides the main reason of.

 

You will like it anyway because it is just that good.



#28056
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Yeah... did not really enjoy Akame Ga Kill. It felt like there were too many ideas and crazy things but none of it really shaped into anything.

 

I gave up around episode 13 or something.



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Lotion Soronarr

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Watching, or reading? The manga is significantly better. And plus, Kurome is best girl, not Esdeath.

 

Wait, which one is Kurome? Akame's sister? Meh.

It feel like they're trying too hard a lot of the time with the characters... them being utterly insane, or impossibly naive, or 2D super-monsters



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Ghost Lightning

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Wait, which one is Kurome? Akame's sister? Meh.

It feel like they're trying too hard a lot of the time with the characters... them being utterly insane, or impossibly naive, or 2D super-monsters

 

Yeah, Akame's younger sister. She's a cute and a best. Especially her interactions with her OTP, Wave.

I agree that there are some moments that are utterly ridiculous in terms of the way it attempts to make you care about things that you couldn't possibly care about at that point, and they tend to make it look like (nearly) anyone who's an antagonist is a psychotic, murdering uber-rapist. But the characters on the Jaegers are much more interesting. They're interactions with each other and with other characters in the manga are actually relatable. As well, their reactions to events feel much less forced than those of the Night Raid characters (spare Akame and Lub, who feel a little less try hard).



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Finished watching Akama Ga Kill.... muh. Don't see the hubub. Yeah, it's brutal and is killing characters left and right, but it's kinda of a mess.

 

And no, I don't find Esdeath interesting

 

Yeah I agree. The one thing it has going for it in the later episodes at least is it does a good job showing the circular nature of violence. 



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The tone was always slightly off. And the art style in the manga is much nicer. The character designs suffered the most from the stylistic difference. But like you said, the last few episodes really butchered the story. I'd say that anyone interested should start on chapter 39 of the manga and catch up from there (assuming you've watched up the most recent point in the anime).


I see. Appreciate the clarification.

I wouldn't go as far and call Akame ga Kill a mess (unless one counts these last few episodes). The series does a capable job in addressing corruption as a commentary in its narrative (to an extent), along with removing itself from having a dichotomous represention between the Jaegars and Night Raid, who respective groups are characterized and developed rather well.

However, while the clash between the two factions is good, the underlying conflict between The Empire and The Revolutionary Army (alongside other opposing factors that are taken up) is bad. It is nothing more than a conflict about freedom fighters fighting for equality against a conservative power, and even when it tries to take into consideration other causes and aspects, it fails miserably. You can't have a workable conflict like this if it is only used as a mechanic to instigate personal battles with the opposing factions and doesn't add up to anything.

Apparently the manga does a better execution on that regard, so I am curious to see how it is handled, but the anime fails at it for sure.

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It felt to me more like an actual mess... agree with Sorronar on that one.



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Ghost Lightning

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It felt to me more like an actual mess... agree with Sorronar on that one.

 

Reeeaaaaaad it. It's actually good, I swear.

 

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when u guys think s2 of aot will com out?



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When do you guys think Season 2 of Attack on Titan will be announced?

 

I'm thinking at most another year.



#28065
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I'm thinking at most another year.

is sleeping for over a year healthy? its the only way i can get there sooner.



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It felt to me more like an actual mess... agree with Sorronar on that one.


Care to elaborate on what specific factors corroborates the show as a mess?

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I also agree that the Akame ga Kill manga is a lot better than the anime, it may be frame-by-frame almost a copy of the panels in the earlier episodes, but it lacks the cinematic skills the manga has, and that's where a lot of AgK's strength comes from.

 

Only thing I think was done better in the anime was Sheele and the Earth Dragon in the first episode.



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akame ga kill isnt amazing, but it tends to hover above mediocre here n there.



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Have to disagree on Akame ga Kill being a mess. It knows what it does and doesn't try to be anything more than that. Sure, it does poor on certain aspects, like portraying almost everyone in the Empire as a psychopath, but that doesn't mean it has some good plots that it knows how to execute on.

Hardly an amazing show, but not a bad one or messy in its deliverance.

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Care to elaborate on what specific factors corroborates the show as a mess?

 

I honestly couldn't even distinguish between like Empire, Yeagars, Revolutionary whatever, other guys, or characters after a certain point. It was just everyone was a fighter, he's there to avenge someone that I've forgotten, who we had no real sense of connection to in the first place, and avenges them by joining a random group of people who killed a whole nother group of people because those people killed a different group of people. Apparently this is the great plan they all have.

 

Additionally, the characters kind of mimic that, there's this demi-god level general who fights off in the middle of nowhere and conquers half the known universe in 10 seconds, but stagnates within 10 seconds of arriving to combat these avengers who have already killed more people than your average imperial guard kills in a lifetime. Then there's a soldier who has incredible power that only gets released after being beaten down into dust and then whipped out at high speed to combat 4x the force because she can use a gun from inside her mouth for some strange reason, when they couldn't figure this out earlier, while the demi-god general decides not only can she not figure out how to beat these people despite galactically annihilating half the known universe but that she's going to use these randomly collected proxy figures instead.

 

Of course then before even he minions can get this task underway she goes off and decides she needs a tournament to find a guy she's attracted to because that's how girls find guys they like I guess, before falling for the enemy of the opposition who mystically manages to escape very easily. Then, whilist out randomly hunting in the middle of absolutely nowhere they manage to run into each other again and she somehow believes (again despite her incredible ability) that this super powerful guy who is completely allied with their own extremely powerful enemies actually has nothing to do with any of them and takes him back despite the fact that he clearly and directly states his actual desire to be a part of that opposition.

 

Like what's their revolution for exactly? What distinguishes a Jaegar from a revolutionary fighter from a hero beyond the labels? Why should anyone take anyone's side?

 

Also I'm all for having getting distracted by sexual and romantic aspects take over but it's insanely jarring to have that against the backdrop of a practical real time holocaust.


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Honestly though if you want to compare it to the average anime though, I can give it that, I guess.

 

If you are just looking in terms of anime I'd say it's average in terms of what's going on, I was experiencing an average level of confusion, you could say.

 

The reason AKG then has some popularity IMO is because some of the characters are above average in terms of moxy, but that in no way compensates for the lack of these other factors for my own personal enjoyment.

 

Anyway, that is about the best way I can describe my experience, which was on the whole not very positive. If there's more stuff going on past a certain episode (11 or 13 or something) I wouldn't know because I gave up.

 

Honestly you could probably do a lot worse, but I just personally found it dissatisfying.



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That is more of a personal take on the show, rather than an objective viewpoint, to be honest.it is OK if you don't like how it proceeds with the narrative, but that doesn't make it a mess.
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Thing is guys, AKG is your standard Battle Manga. They want stuff to be simple. Consider it a blessing that the Jaegers and Night Raid are done so well.

 

This is why you guys should totally watch Bakuman.



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That is more of a personal take on the show, rather than an objective viewpoint, to be honest.it is OK if you don't like how it proceeds with the narrative, but that doesn't make it a mess.

 

Ha! That's a good one, indeed, when it's your own opinion it's objective, when it's a contrasting opinion it's subjective.

 

I already said if you want to compare it to anime in the general sphere it's fine, if you want to call that an objective metric that's ok also. I also already said you could do much worse. However, if you do that then presumably you can't deny Sorronar or my own opinion's either that it's kind of a mess, which is precisely what both of you have done.

 

Indeed, I am not surprised that people like it. Indeed, I'm glad people have something they like. That doesn't mean that some people won't find it to be an experience of relative chaos.

 

Also Akame is a sentient lawnmower.



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Everyone on BSN has been banned from using the words subjective or objective since the ME3 days. No using those words.


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