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[eroeru]

Some Geth wrote...

I hate Japan's sexism and carp manga/anime like Highschool of the Dead.

Haha. I figured as much. 

edit: might I say that I find it interesting in a campy kind of way - it never strikes me as rooted in reality, it's all fictional. That's a pro when it comes to viewing and rating stuff, but maybe a bit short-sighted in regard to the Japanese every-day.

Modifié par eroeru, 22 février 2012 - 11:15 .

[Nerevar-as]

eroeru wrote...

Does anyone like any anime with fan-service in it (looking at you, Some Geth)?

I just noticed that two anime that I love and Geth thinks crap have many fan-servicy moments in them - though I myself did not take them as such - it was more like a part of an attitude for both.

I like Ken Akamatsu stuff (Love Hina, Negima), but it´s more despite the FS than because of it.

[Ronnel]

Some Geth wrote...

Ronnel wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Ronnel wrote...

Is there anybody reading Fairy Tail, I thought it's one of the big three now minus Bleach.

The "big three" right now are One Piece, Naruto and Toriko. Even Jump hates Bleach...

Soon as Naruto is done it will be hard to say what will take it's place. If Hunter x Hunter keeps having new chapters for the next some years it will be in the one to take Naruto's place in the "big three" but it will still never have the mainstream love that the others get.

But as for Fairy Tail, it is really boring and has no characters that one could care for, I mean maybe Erza, hell the manga would be better if she was the main character, in my view. The last some chapters also have had bad art.

I do hope that the author doesn't give too much spotlight to Natsu, cause thats the downwards of this manga, then he must focus more screentime to minor Characters. At least the latest chapter keeps me interested for a while, fingers cross not some another asspull happen in this arc, but I'm still predicting that to happen. 

Natsu is a very cookie-cutter shonen main heroand his fights are boring. Again Erza would make a better main character.

And there will be more asspulls, this is Fairy Tail we are talking about.

I like the fanservice of Fairy Tail it looks like for comedic purposes, the only thing that keeps me reading Fairy Tail that it has romance and a fast paced story.  

[Lotion Soronarr]

I can't stand anime that's too fanservice-y. Especially if the fanservice involves little girls.

[Clover Rider]

eroeru wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

I hate Japan's sexism and carp manga/anime like Highschool of the Dead.

Haha. I figured as much. 

edit: might I say that I find it interesting in a campy kind of way - it never strikes me as rooted in reality, it's all fictional. That's a pro when it comes to viewing and rating stuff, but maybe a bit short-sighted in regard to the Japanese every-day.

I view it like I view the superhero comics of America, it's fine if it is one or two women(Power Girl, Emma Frost) but if it is every girl and every comic it gets old real fast, campy or not.

And  a lot of it does come from how the Japanese view women as, so that can kill any pros about it.

So yeah you got to have a lot of class and be funny and know a thing or two about women to pull off fanservice well.

And that is not even getting into fanservice for girls.

Modifié par Some Geth, 23 février 2012 - 11:21 .

[eroeru]

Right now I'm at episode 78 in DBZ. Dragon Ball, the original series was much better, in my honest opinion. It had more humans like. And some adventuring to it. Also, loads more humor.

[Clover Rider]

eroeru wrote...

Right now I'm at episode 78 in DBZ. Dragon Ball, the original series was much better, in my honest opinion. It had more humans like. And some adventuring to it. Also, loads more humor.

Again most of the blame(like all of it lol) is on Toei for the crap filler, so the best gags take forever to get to. 

And going to a new planet is not adventuring?

By the way this is old news but the Bleach anime is FINALLY cancelled!



And the gag Rock Lee manga spin-off is getting an anime that will take up Bleach's timeslot.

Modifié par Some Geth, 01 mars 2012 - 12:04 .

[eroeru]

Some Geth wrote...

eroeru wrote...

Right now I'm at episode 78 in DBZ. Dragon Ball, the original series was much better, in my honest opinion. It had more humans like. And some adventuring to it. Also, loads more humor.

And going to a new planet is not adventuring?

 

Well, going there is, but staying in one place, filled with one species of trees, grass and dull lakes (even if in a magnitude of a planet), is dull.

Don't get me wrong, there are great things going on, like the characterization/design etc. but there does not seem to be much room for that on a desolated planet.

If it were a planet more filled with someone without the battle-rages-on mentality, and a bit of quirkiness (as opposed to the one-dimensional Namekians) - like Earth was - it would be loads more interesting. Actually, I do think I was having lots of fun right up to where the anime reached this foreign planet and had first encounters there.

Some Geth wrote...

By the way this is old news but the Bleach anime is FINALLY cancelled!
And the gag Rock Lee manga spin-off is getting an anime that will take up Bleach's timeslot.

Great news indeed, surely! 

[Clover Rider]

eroeru wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

eroeru wrote...

Right now I'm at episode 78 in DBZ. Dragon Ball, the original series was much better, in my honest opinion. It had more humans like. And some adventuring to it. Also, loads more humor.

And going to a new planet is not adventuring?

 

Well, going there is, but staying in one place, filled with one species of trees, grass and dull lakes (even if in a magnitude of a planet), is dull.

Don't get me wrong, there are great things going on, like the characterization/design etc. but there does not seem to be much room for that on a desolated planet.

If it were a planet more filled with someone without the battle-rages-on mentality, and a bit of quirkiness (as opposed to the one-dimensional Namekians) - like Earth was - it would be loads more interesting. Actually, I do think I was having lots of fun right up to where the anime reached this foreign planet and had first encounters there.

Some Geth wrote...

By the way this is old news but the Bleach anime is FINALLY cancelled!
And the gag Rock Lee manga spin-off is getting an anime that will take up Bleach's timeslot.

Great news indeed, surely! 

Well once more in the manga it was way faster.

But it is ture Dragon Ball does not really have any more adventures after the Freeza arc, still has good character and plot stuff though. And the Boo arc is a lot like the older story arcs of Dragon Ball too with good gags and a lot of magic stuff.

Also how do you like Freeza so far? I know you are not at the end of the arc yet but even at that point he was already my favorite bad guy from Dragon Ball.

Modifié par Some Geth, 01 mars 2012 - 12:35 .

[eroeru]

Some Geth wrote...
Also how do you like Freeza so far? I know you are not at the end of the arc yet but even at that point he was already my favorite bad guy from Dragon Ball.

I just love the way his character has been played out and designed.  (Y)
Though overall I enjoyed the original Piccolo more. Maybe that's because he was the real first "super"-villain, and thus made a bigger scare or impact.

[Clover Rider]

eroeru wrote...

Some Geth wrote...
Also how do you like Freeza so far? I know you are not at the end of the arc yet but even at that point he was already my favorite bad guy from Dragon Ball.

I just love the way his character has been played out and designed.  (Y)
Though overall I enjoyed the original Piccolo more. Maybe that's because he was the real first "super"-villain, and thus made a bigger scare or impact.

Yeah I like Freeza a bit more than Piccolo but he comes really close to my favorite.

That and Piccolo is the only villain to beat Goku more than once and that is kind of cool. One Piece did something like that once with a villain as well.

And I like that, even if stronger foes are out there nothing beats that one foe who beat you more than once.

[eroeru]

Thanks for the rec. I was vary of this one, as it seemed familiar to Kanji, which I didn't like because of its over-dramatic yet stupid characters (imo). Is the comparison to Kanji valid? Rainbow does seem interesting, but I'm not quite sure what to make of it...

[Megaton_Hope]

It's always interesting seeing how serious people get about fights in Dragonball, considering that the original mostly exists to make jokes about boobs and panties.

[eroeru]

Megaton_Hope wrote...

It's always interesting seeing how serious people get about fights in Dragonball, considering that the original mostly exists to make jokes about boobs and panties.

(Y) Those jokes were awesomely original though - nothing like it in western animation. 

edit: that japanese kind of campiness does actually feel original to me. Or maybe just different. In a good way.:happy:

Modifié par eroeru, 05 mars 2012 - 04:09 .

[eroeru]

Gurris wrote...

I'm only basing this on what I've read of the manga version of Kaiji, but the only real similarity I can think of is that they both have a serious and dark mood with people abusing power, value of trust in your allies under tough circumstances etc.

Check out the two first episodes or so of Rainbow and you'll have a pretty good sense on what's to come and whether you like it or not.

I watched the first episode. And it was indeed better than Kaiji, in my opinion. The characters and plot may seem a bit simple, but there does seem to be some good light to it. The "Bro" character seemed to have some genuine dignity and other great qualities to him - and though all characters but the good guys are made to seem impossibly evil and perverse, the main ones seem to form a bit more interesting bunch. Unlike Kanji, where all, without exception, were unredeemable losers and idiots.

Rainbow has some kind-hearted guys there, and a moving setting. (reminds of Dickens??)
Still, not entirely my thing.

And oh, sorry to anyone who enjoyed Kaiji, for calling the characters there "stupid" - but you've got to admit, there's no-one with an intelligent mind-set in the series. That's kind of a prerequisite for a good seriously taken series - that at least some characters would be not one-dimensionally unintelligent. In my eyes, the more smart and/or psychologically feasible, interesting and quirky characters in a series, the better.

Modifié par eroeru, 05 mars 2012 - 10:27 .

[Megaton_Hope]

eroeru wrote...
(Y) Those jokes were awesomely original though - nothing like it in western animation. 

edit: that japanese kind of campiness does actually feel original to me. Or maybe just different. In a good way.:happy:

It's definitely not what WE do.  I bet Japanese nerds rave about how so little of our comedy is about farts or poop.

[eroeru]

Megaton_Hope wrote...

eroeru wrote...
(Y) Those jokes were awesomely original though - nothing like it in western animation. 

edit: that japanese kind of campiness does actually feel original to me. Or maybe just different. In a good way.:happy:

It's definitely not what WE do.  I bet Japanese nerds rave about how so little of our comedy is about farts or poop.

Actually, I can remember quite a number of flicks I've watched on Cartoon Network AND "ordinary" shows in the west that referenced that sort of comedy. And I cannot recollect ANY japanese show that did any of those two. I've tried to watch anime and japanese stuff as much as I can though.

But jokes about sexuality in general are widespread there, and quite a taboo in the west, if my understanding holds.

[Clover Rider]

Megaton_Hope wrote...

It's always interesting seeing how serious people get about fights in Dragonball, considering that the original mostly exists to make jokes about boobs and panties.

I blame Toei for making the fights(more like yells) of DBZ so long with the filler and I blame FUNi for making it into a very mindless action show for American kids.

@eroeru The Japanese love poop jokes... 

[eroeru]

Oooh, right. Now I'm starting to recollect some. Toriko had one, etc. Guess I just try to forget most of them.

[Clover Rider]

eroeru wrote...

Oooh, right. Now I'm starting to recollect some. Toriko had one, etc. Guess I just try to forget most of them.

Yeah most series will have one or two poop jokes cuz you can't just get hit with the "best jokes" all at once.:innocent:

[Megaton_Hope]

eroeru wrote...

Actually, I can remember quite a number of flicks I've watched on Cartoon Network AND "ordinary" shows in the west that referenced that sort of comedy. And I cannot recollect ANY japanese show that did any of those two. I've tried to watch anime and japanese stuff as much as I can though.

But jokes about sexuality in general are widespread there, and quite a taboo in the west, if my understanding holds.

That one's true enough. Let's see here...poop...

Well, Aqua Knight features a lump of dookie in a full-page spread. That Yukito Kishiro is an odd man.

Bobobo Bobobobo has a character whose special fighting technique is lethal flatulence - although that one falls under the general tradition of absurd parodies. (Mostly Dragonball Z, Gundam, Fist of the North Star, tv dramas and a lot of Manzai that can't be translated.)

And then there's...well, nothing's really coming to mind. This'n seems about representative of the kind of thing I mean, though: