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[eroeru]

I can understand what you're talking about (I think I do).

Yet that doesn't rule out that some people's brains are more oriented on sounds and moving pictures, others get a better grasp of stills.

Like me for instance. I went to a prestigious music school way back. And even though I went there only for the first six grades - meaning elementary and some middle-school - and hated music up until I was through with it (making you practice 4 hours a day won't make you enjoy what you do), it still kept to me. A few years later I recognize that there ain't any better thing for me than sounds and music. That's it.

It could be training, it can be natural talent (most musical hearing, at least in potential, you are born with, a fact). But the fact is I'll always enjoy anime more than manga. Even if Berserk actually is "better" in manga, the enjoyment of anime is of other categories completely (minus the narrative and some art-work).

[RedArmyShogun]

Well given alot of the new stuff thats on the scean , is hard for me to get ahold of via my normal and trusted sources, or it just isn't up to my level, I've started watching older shows I never had the chance to watch. So far out of those I'm really digging Get Backers. The interactions between Ginji and Akabane are priceless. I'll have to take a look at the Manga for that one for sure. As with all the good shows I see I will be buying it for my collection.

Saddly I'm running out of things in my que list I want to see lulz.

[eroeru]

Well, that can always be remedied. If you have a list to show, I'm sure Some Geth, I and others have a suggestion or two (if needed, about sources as well).

[Some Geth]

eroeru wrote...

I can understand what you're talking about (I think I do).

Yet that doesn't rule out that some people's brains are more oriented on sounds and moving pictures, others get a better grasp of stills.

Like me for instance. I went to a prestigious music school way back. And even though I went there only for the first six grades - meaning elementary and some middle-school - and hated music up until I was through with it (making you practice 4 hours a day won't make you enjoy what you do), it still kept to me. A few years later I recognize that there ain't any better thing for me than sounds and music. That's it.

It could be training, it can be natural talent (most musical hearing, at least in potential, you are born with, a fact). But the fact is I'll always enjoy anime more than manga. Even if Berserk actually is "better" in manga, the enjoyment of anime is of other categories completely (minus the narrative and some art-work).

Not saying you have to like manga more than anime.

Just saying it is foolish to think manga can't make the same kind of emotional response that an anime can make.

This panel here, from Strongest Man Kurosawa gets a huge emotiional response out of me. And you know what? I don't think the scene would work as well if it was an anime.

Same stuff can be said about anime they turn into manga.

Anyways you know me, manga>anime and all that. Still some anime adaptations are fine, voice actors, music and animtion are great when they get it right.

Modifié par Some Geth, 27 novembre 2012 - 03:22 .

[eroeru]

Really, most anime can be better done.

But I'm at a loss for words when it comes to criticizing (most) manga.

Modifié par eroeru, 27 novembre 2012 - 05:44 .

[Some Geth]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Maybe I didn't make myself as clear as I should have, I tend to be unclear. I don't feel that manga is a medium that should be ignored nor do I feel that it's a lesser medium than anime. It's just that I don't feel the same connection with the story, action and characters when I'm reading a manga. Since it's divided up in panes, it makes the action feel choppy and stand-aloneish to me. I have the same problem with poetry, since I tend to read one line at a time. The flow isn't there for me, so I tend to enjoy it less. Naturally manga will be the most heartfelt out of the two since it is the original, it just doesn't resonate with me for the reason I mentioned. Plus, the black and white really screws with me, I don't know why.

Yeah I guess I can understand that, but still you should try reading more manga than just Bleach. 

[Some Geth]

Yes I would recommend it.

@eroeeu Here if you want to start criticizing manga, start with this panel.

Modifié par Some Geth, 27 novembre 2012 - 06:24 .

[eroeru]

Probably Bleach, right?

[Isichar]

Bleach is just a shadow of what it use to be I'm afraid. I miss the days when Bankai was actually worth a damn.

[eroeru]

I'd be eager to hear the explanation of what's wrong with the panel. I for one don't think that scarce background is any bad.

The text and narrative *is* possibly bad. Can't fully grasp it from a single pane though.

Oh, and the clothes look stylishly drawn as usual (that's a good thing)...

Modifié par eroeru, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:27 .

[Some Geth]

Look it's raining for convenient atmospheric effect but we're not bothered by it at all nor do we get wet because we have coolness shields!

That is the problem with the panel(and the art sucks).

Modifié par Some Geth, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:45 .

[Laotar]

Some Geth wrote...

Look it's raining for convenient atmospheric effect but we're not bothered by it at all nor do we get wet because we have coolness shields!

That is the problem with the panel(and the art sucks).

You definately notice the details man.

[Some Geth]

All part of being a good critic.

[Laotar]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Maybe I didn't make myself as clear as I should have, I tend to be unclear. I don't feel that manga is a medium that should be ignored nor do I feel that it's a lesser medium than anime. It's just that I don't feel the same connection with the story, action and characters when I'm reading a manga. Since it's divided up in panes, it makes the action feel choppy and stand-aloneish to me. I have the same problem with poetry, since I tend to read one line at a time. The flow isn't there for me, so I tend to enjoy it less. Naturally manga will be the most heartfelt out of the two since it is the original, it just doesn't resonate with me for the reason I mentioned. Plus, the black and white really screws with me, I don't know why.

I feel the same way. I tried reading some Berserk manga and had a real issue connecting with it.

This is odd because I love to read, or did at one point anyway. The black and white was hard for me too. Why limit yourself and your art to those two colors? That can *enhance* some stories I guess, but not Berserk. 

The right-to-left format was hard to get used to too.

Though, truth be told, without more Berserk in anime form (those damn movies are taking too long to come out) I will go back to it. We'll see then.

:innocent:

[Some Geth]

[The Hierophant]

Some Geth wrote...

Look it's raining for convenient atmospheric effect but we're not bothered by it at all nor do we get wet because we have coolness shields!

That is the problem with the panel(and the art sucks).

Plus his figures suffer from same face syndrome as the two guys in the panel look like Aizen, have severely elongated limbs in contrast to his earlier work, no background for the panel, but the "Heart" panel took it to the extreme.

[eroeru]

As to it raining and the characters not appearing wet - well I noticed that but didn't feel it significant. Personally.

That's why I said I hadn't a manga-critic in me.

[Some Geth]

The Hierophant wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Look it's raining for convenient atmospheric effect but we're not bothered by it at all nor do we get wet because we have coolness shields!

That is the problem with the panel(and the art sucks).

Plus his figures suffer from same face syndrome as the two guys in the panel look like Aizen, have severely elongated limbs in contrast to his earlier work, no background for the panel, but the "Heart" panel took it to the extreme.

Togashi did the no-backgrounds text only thing a lot better. You know at the end of the ant arc?

[eroeru]

So that isn't Aizen?

[Some Geth]

He may as well be.

[The Hierophant]

Some Geth wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Look it's raining for convenient atmospheric effect but we're not bothered by it at all nor do we get wet because we have coolness shields!

That is the problem with the panel(and the art sucks).

Plus his figures suffer from same face syndrome as the two guys in the panel look like Aizen, have severely elongated limbs in contrast to his earlier work, no background for the panel, but the "Heart" panel took it to the extreme.

Togashi did the no-backgrounds text only thing a lot better. You know at the end of the ant arc?

True i remember,  but the difference was that it wasn't some bootleg pseudo faux philosophical statement that was meant to draw emotion for a one dimensional character like Ulqui-blah-blah. Plus Kubo is being lazy when you count the frequency of background in his earlier work in contrast to his current work.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 27 novembre 2012 - 10:15 .