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[Paragon Gabriel]

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't they have both Saber and Archer take a life in the anime? That at least makes it even more confusing.

[Isichar]

I will put LOGH on hold for now to finish Kids on the slope.

Good choice!

[Isichar]

Camp blue, black, white.

[Mr.House]

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't they have both Saber and Archer take a life in the anime? That at least makes it even more confusing.

No he did not. Berserker needs three days to restore one life(thanks to Illyas godly mana output), so it would take six days to restore two lifes, yet Illya says they need only three days. That means only Saber took a life, not Archer.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Eh in fact

Spoiler

He did lose a life to Archer in the VN, it was confirmed by Nasu in the character material. Why Archers Caladbolg did not kill him in the anime(along with Saber being able to kill him) is the big issue with what was otherwise a visually stunning fight.

 

But, what makes you think Archer failed? After all..

Spoiler

Berserker can only be killed by A rank noble phantasms. Excalibur is one. Caldabolg can also kill him. And it has. Just because they didn't show him regenerating doesn't mean he didn't regenerate.

 

[Lotion Soronarr]

Oooh... Oh! Biden senpai!

Spoiler

 

This is wonderfull.

Made me smile.

[Mr.House]

But, what makes you think Archer failed? After all..

Spoiler

Berserker can only be killed by A rank noble phantasms. Excalibur is one. Caldabolg can also kill him. And it has. Just because they didn't show him regenerating doesn't mean he didn't regenerate.

 

The problem is

 

Spoiler

While true Exaclibur CAN kill Berserker, Saber used Strike Air, which is used by Saber blowing Invisible Air into a strike. That is a C rank attack, even if she used prana burst, it would only rise to a B rank.  The only way Saber can kill Berserker is unseating her sword from Invisible air or using excaliblast(her NP) In the VN Archer did kill Berserker, this was hwy Illya decided to focus on Archer. In the anime though, Illya says she will need three days for Berserker to restore a life. That right there confirms he was only killed once, but unlike the VN it was Saber who did it.

 

The fight it self is visually stunning, no doubt about it, but when it comes to the lore, writing and mechanics of Berserkers God Hand, Ufotable botched it up.

[Lotion Soronarr]

It's still my thing.

 

I don't see either you telling people to watch Gintama

 

Or LOTGH

 

Jeez.

 

That is my default recomendation you heretic!

 

 

She likes it rough or slow.

 

She's open to girls so lots of potential threesomes.

 

So versatile

 

So kawaii

 

Much moe

 

That she is.....

[Zeroth Angel]

lol @Saber's antenna.

 

It's just too cute.

 

[Lotion Soronarr]

The problem is

 

Spoiler

While true Exaclibur CAN kill Berserker, Saber used Strike Air, which is used by Saber blowing Invisible Air into a strike. That is a C rank attack, even if she used prana burst, it would only rise to a B rank.  The only way Saber can kill Berserker is unseating her sword from Invisible air or using excaliblast(her NP) In the VN Archer did kill Berserker, this was hwy Illya decided to focus on Archer. In the anime though, Illya says she will need three days for Berserker to restore a life. That right there confirms he was only killed once, but unlike the VN it was Saber who did it.

 

The fight it self is visually stunning, no doubt about it, but when it comes to the lore, writing and mechanics of Berserkers God Hand, Ufotable botched it up.

 

Spoiler

I don't recall that line in the anime.

BUT it doesn't necessarily mean that. It means that it takes 3 days to restore 1 life, not that only 1 was lost.

And what Saber used was Excalibur....Strike Air doesn't look like that, nor does it make the blade visible.

[CrazyRah]

lol @Saber's antenna.

 

It's just too cute.

 

Easily the best part about Saber

[Jstatham1227]

yes wolf, it is. Big fan of the series, if my grav wasn't enough. Apparently, getting an anime adaptation this summer. 

[Mr.House]

Spoiler

I don't recall that line in the anime.

BUT it doesn't necessarily mean that. It means that it takes 3 days to restore 1 life, not that only 1 was lost.

And what Saber used was Excalibur....Strike Air doesn't look like that, nor does it make the blade visible.

 

Spoiler

If two lifes where lost, Illya would have said 6 days, not three. And no that was not Excalibur, Saber has to yell it's name no matter what to use the true power of the blade, strike air is turning Invisable air into a beam, but it is C rank. Saber has three NPs.

 

Invisible Air which is the air Saber uses to conceal her holy sword, it also decreases her swords power. Once she unsethes her sword, her holy sword is at it's full power but it takes alot of mana to uphold(which is why Saber did it alot in Zero but not with Shirou as her master) Strike sir is a technique she uses to turn all that energy into a blast and that blast is nowhere near her NP, it's a C rank blast, at best a B blast with prana burst on.

 

Then there is Excalibur, this is not only the sword it self, this ist he blast which is nicknamed excaliblast. That is A++ attack but not only does it need to charge, she needs to shout its name. That attack has only been used a few times in the entire fate series.

 

Then there is Avalon. Which is a EX rank NP and as long as she does not take a strong blow to the brain, any wounds will be healed.

 

This is all from the VN and character material.

 

Ufotable simply botched it, that's all there is to it. They really nerfed Berserker big time.

[Mr.House]

Don't play with it, if you do she'll turn into Saber Alter.

[Hellion Rex]

So...based on what happened in the anime, Ufotable basically switched on who actually took out that one life?

[Mr.House]

So...based on what happened in the anime, Ufotable basically switched on who actually took out that one life?

Yes and to me and others, it was a very unnecessary change that just yells Saber pandering.

[Jstatham1227]

Oh, cool. I enjoyed it, but had no idea what it was about. To be honest it was a curiosity click. I was like wait, a lamia romance manga. But it was a pleasant surprise I liked it.

sure, while it does have a decent amount of echii. It takes it in a lighter fashion then most manga would, giving it a funny/fun feel I guess. lel

[Hellion Rex]

Yes and to me and others, it was a very unnecessary change that just yells Saber pandering.

Ok, cool. I was doing some reading on Archer, and was just curious.

[Mr.House]

Ok, cool. I was doing some reading on Archer, and was just curious.

Archer is one of my fav characters so seeing his spotlght taken away ruffles my feathers D:

[Hellion Rex]

Archer is one of my fav characters so seeing his spotlght taken away ruffles my feathers D:

Lol, I can tell.

 

Have an Archer gif to make it better?