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#4951
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I am one!

But really, you cannot set against modern art as a whole, nor against the notion of a piece of art getting a life of its own. They're too large for ya'. Modern art is accepted, as-from a logical continuation in history (and can be understood through this) and real.

But your even bigger problem is the notion that a creator wants or should want to explain his/her piece. You've not done any art, have you?

#4952
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Modern art is 99% garbage and pretentious bull**** IMHO.

I've done art, and I'm good at it. I just don't recognize a lot of the stuff you would as art.
Frankly, I'd make a commentary on modern art by wiping my ass on a piece of paper, but I'm afraid some modern art critic might get a bright idea to frame it and make a exhibition.

#4953
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It does seem that art can be not-artistic and non-artful nowadays. But I'm more than fine with that. :)

But ok then, have you ever thought you'd need to explain your pieces?

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As to more on-topic about Evangelion, well, Dom mentioned "psychology". Yet the things in Evangelion certainly do not pertain as much to the scientific discipline as they do to emotionally and associatively evoking feelings in the viewer. As art.

Yet I do not think anime as a whole is art. Nor is Evangelion. But it *is* masterful in the *use* of art, mostly in a modern sense.

As to "symbolism", well, I don't really understand what's meant by it. If emotional associations and imagery as well as theoretical ones be thought as "symbols" then Eva is symbolistic. I'd rather not call it such though.

Modifié par eroeru, 10 février 2013 - 05:42 .


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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

ALSO, if anyone's interested in seeing what a real man's list looks like....


*contempouus snort*

You're handing out 9's and 10's like it's candy....


Well to be fair, some of that comes from MAL splitting series into their individual seasons and what not. 

But yeah otherwise my tens are completely justified :I

>.> 

Modifié par Ghost Lightning, 10 février 2013 - 07:57 .


#4956
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You are but a molehill (funny enough I wrote that as a moehill lulz) before me Ghost. You have much to learn of the Living anime, but there is little left that I can teach you. You are Ready for the Trail to becoming an Otaku Knight.

*plays the End of Evangelion* will you be crushed, or will you pass.

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eroeru wrote...
Yet I do not think anime as a whole is art. Nor is Evangelion. But it *is* masterful in the *use* of art, mostly in a modern sense.


Are movies or books art?

#4958
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Yeeaah... Kinda got me there. Some art-videos (and possibly books) are certainly art if with the pretension of being that. Yet I cannot think of a good example nor some definition. Usually the purpose of movies or books is different (more of fiction -and narrative-related... stuff?) and they're more temporally extensive (i.e. long for an experience, often giving you freedom as to when to continue "living in to it", which is different to the "presenting" of art, maybe). That's all I can make of the subject as of now.

Modifié par eroeru, 11 février 2013 - 09:23 .


#4959
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Last hour or so I have tried to fix up a list on MAL. Too damn hard. I have way too many shows I've dropped or planned to watch the rest of them later... Most of which are hard to just remember, moreso the ep count...

Modifié par eroeru, 11 février 2013 - 03:56 .


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I have a theory. If you consider a song or movie art, then you consider all songs or movies art.

If you have a problem with Nicki Manaj, Michael Bay's Transformers or High School of the Dead being art, just think of them as Dr. Suess illustrations. They are still considered art, despite the fact that they aren't profound. Art is considered something that expresses human emotion in a way words can't, so I'd say books, movies, music and anime art indeed art.

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#4961
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MAL started ignoring me. :(

I "add" a show, and it just doesn't add it anymore!

@Hanar - That's a good theory. :)
I tend to agree with you.

edit: I'm through with MAL. Been feeding the page shows for about three hours now. Should ignore the site from now on!

Modifié par eroeru, 11 février 2013 - 10:10 .


#4962
RedArmyShogun

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Never had any trouble with it. Maybe it just doesn't like you lulz.

#4963
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I came across a trailer/PV today for a new anime soon to be released, called 'Date A Live'. I don't know much about it, other than the fact it's based on a light novel and it judging from the PV it looks pretty awesome.  The animation style is super clean, and I really like the character design~

Colour me curious. Has anyone else heard anything about it? 

It's here for anyone interested: Date A Live / デート・ア・ライブ - PV

Modifié par ThePinkFoxx, 12 février 2013 - 03:58 .


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Looks interesting. I heard Ayana Taketatsu's voice there at the end so I feel obligated to check this out now >.>

#4965
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This reminds me so much of Infinite Stratos. I may watch it.

#4966
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So, here's a MAL. If anyone's got suggestions or rants about any anime or my list I'd be happy to listen.

However, I did leave out a lot of oldies and concentrated on new shows. I won't, for example, list many real classics because I find it hard to rate them. + of course there's many missing from simple memory loss or irrelevance of the show to my here and now. :P

Also, one should note that I didn't list episode counts for shows that're on hold nor precise ones for shows I dropped - simply because it would take too much effort to keep a list updated so. Yet all I listed I could rate, however incorrectly, the bare minimum presumed is at least 2 episode count for most shows.

Oh, and though I tried to account for the "objective", ultimately shows like Gantz and Air Gear were put where I felt was their place. Subjectively.

Modifié par eroeru, 12 février 2013 - 05:52 .


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eroeru wrote...


So, here's a MAL. If anyone's got suggestions or rants I'd be happy to listen.

A 10 for FLCL and a 6 for FMA?! Dat be hella rude tbh.:(

#4968
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^ No wonder MAL hates you.

#4969
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Brotherhood will get an 8. :wizard:

Tho I do think I should maybe remove the tags from the shows I dropped. I put them there to keep it categorised, but really, it comes off like really arrogant. :/

Modifié par eroeru, 12 février 2013 - 05:46 .


#4970
RedArmyShogun

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Meh I've watched too many things to bother tagging all of that -_-

#4971
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I'd probably need to get to "on-hold" shows, pronto, if I were to catch up anytime soon.

Alas, little time to watch it all. Even less to bother with the hating MAL...

Modifié par eroeru, 12 février 2013 - 09:00 .


#4972
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I'm only 3 episodes in and bakemonogatari is quickly becoming one of my favorite anime.

It just feels so unique.

#4973
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^ Its a pretty good show, don't forget the 2nd part Nisemonogatari, and the third upcoming release (who's name I forget atm).

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Nekomonogatari Kuro =^.^=

I'm a certified Hitagi's fanclub member.

Modifié par bmwcrazy, 13 février 2013 - 12:30 .


#4975
RedArmyShogun

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Well I don't think anyone would NOT want to be in the fanclub. Otherwise she'll cut you with a box cutter. Or kidnap you. Though I have to say among the girls I do like her the most.

"If anyone else kills you, I'll kill that person."
"If I kill you that means I'll be the one closest to you when you're on your deathbed. Isn't it romantic?"

Lol I would love to have a girl like that to an extent I think, keeps things on there toes.

Modifié par RedArmyShogun, 13 février 2013 - 12:46 .